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quote:Q3 Kit Leak: From my local group. I need all those crack shots.
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canyoneer posted:From my local group. I need all those crack shots. 
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Jun 30, 2017 04:30
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Zigmoose posted:Any tips on strategy for facing 4 brobots? I'm doing a 200 point weekly tournament and that's my next matchup. So far they are undefeated. 200 points?! What are the lists?
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Jun 30, 2017 05:17
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canyoneer posted:From my local group. I need all those crack shots. Finally I'll be able to get enough crack. Against 4 brobots I'd take 7 bwing with tactician and a stresshog. hoiyes fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 05:57
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Zigmoose posted:Any tips on strategy for facing 4 brobots? I'm doing a 200 point weekly tournament and that's my next matchup. So far they are undefeated. 10 Thugs w/ Autoblaster Turrets
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Jun 30, 2017 05:59
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Is proxying OK? Because this poo poo is hilarious. You probably won't have all the cards on-hand. Lieutenant Dormitz (31) Collision Detector (0) Darth Vader (3) Operations Specialist (3) Hyperwave Comm Scanner (1) Hyperwave Comm Scanner (1) 5x Omega Specialist (25) Deadeye (1) Homing Missiles (5) Hyperwave Comm Scanner (1) Guidance Chips (0) Total: 199 View in Yet Another Squad Builder Hyperwave the entire lot to PS12 during setup. Once the enemy sets up, place Dormitz directly across from them. Then place the Omegas one at a time as far forward as you can. Because of the Hyperwave Comm Scanners, the first one you place gets two focus or evade tokens. The second one you place gets three. The third gets four. The fourth gets five, and the fifth gets six. Go as fast as you can on the first round, and light them up with your Deadeye missiles. You'll have to be really unlucky to lose more than one of the omegas before they shoot, because of the giant pile of tokens. Don't forget that each of them gets to take its own action for yet another focus. And you were smart enough to put the ones that are most likely to take the most shots down last, right? Deadeye homing missiles with chips average somewhere between 3 and 4 hits per shot, so you'll be dealing a lot of damage. You'll almost certainly kill one brobot. You MIGHT kill two, although it's unlikely. The second will probably be wounded, though. You can also do Assault missiles if you want to spread the damage around! You'll want to make sure these ships have 2x focus instead of just one, since you'll have to spend a focus just to shoot the missiles. Next round, Dormitz gets to the fight and uses Vader to finish off the wounded. And the whole time, any time one of your ships miss, another focus comes out to add to the pile. Edit: Can also go VI on the Omegas, and just take target locks when you move. That's a pure meta call against PS6 Brobots though; deadeye is more versatile when you don't know what you're gonna encounter. ConfusedUs fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 06:04
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Holy poo poo that list is amazing.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:19
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Some Numbers posted:Holy poo poo that list is amazing. In a regular 300 point Epic game you can have 4x more Omegas. You definitely start going with Assault Missiles at that point. The alpha strike potential of the list is off the drat charts.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:34
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drat if I was allowed to switch from Scum I'd totally try that. The 200 points really lets you build some janky poo poo. Last week I ran Jabba on a slaver with 4 trick shot cargo chute contracted scouts and Quinn Jast with seismic torpedoes. Cleaned up against a TIE swarm but don't think it would fare as well against brobots.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:43
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StuG Jeebus posted:10 Thugs w/ Autoblaster Turrets If I can find 8 y-wings to borrow I might actually try this.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:58
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You're capped at 8 of the same small ship per player in Epic, 12 total per team if it's multiplayer Epic. Also 4 of the same large base ship, 6 if it's team Epic. This is, incidentally, why "8 Lambda Shuttles with FCS and Tactician" isn't the correct answer. Sadly.
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Jun 30, 2017 07:02
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Thankfully that rule doesn't seem to apply to this format (or the organizer doesn't know about it.) I've definitely seen more than 8 TIEs on the table before.
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Jun 30, 2017 07:08
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Going to stick with BBYZZ for the tourney. It's what I have practiced with for the last 4 weeks and the stresshog played right can just ruin a good list. Stacking a ton of stress on Whisper tonight was pretty funny. Thanks for all the advice  edit: Looks like we are going to break a record for our flgs for the number of players at a x-wing tourney. Just had a bunch of Sydney players sign up in the last few hours. Guess they did not hear that there are two tourneys within 30 min of them or maybe they like driving 3+ hours. God I hope I don't choke. Raged fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 14:52
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Dammit I'm really going to need to get an alt inquisitor now if Omega Leader is next kit.
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Jun 30, 2017 15:11
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I don't like measuring target locks when its very obvious you are out either but there's not really anything to be done about it so whatevs. As a casual player who plays rarely, it's a godsend to be able to eyeball a round beforehand, just to retrain my eyes and mind to what the distances are like. I wouldn't think it harms tournaments too much, but it's useful to just warm up into games IMO.
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Jun 30, 2017 16:34
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4 Brobots is a good reason to never ever play 200pts as a format.
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Jun 30, 2017 17:14
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Devlan Mud posted:Dammit I'm really going to need to get an alt inquisitor now if Omega Leader is next kit. I'll mail you one, if you'd like. I don't have pm, though.
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Jun 30, 2017 17:22
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Finster Dexter posted:4 Brobots is a good reason to never ever play 200pts as a format. 4 Brobots is far from the most broken thing you can do in a 200 point format. It's actually fun to fly and fly against. Try 8x TLT y-wings if you want oppressive. Or 4x Torpedo scouts + Fenn Rau + Chips/Crane/ClusterMissile Bossk. (Probably room left for a few Zs). Or that stupid Omega Specialist list I posted above.
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Jun 30, 2017 17:24
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What's the currently recommended storage solution for this? I've got a medium ship (the Dominator) and a bunch of imperials, but currently it's just all tossed in a brown bag because I'm a garbage person. Also, how do you normally play using the Dominator? It's too slow to dogfight, but super tough.
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Jun 30, 2017 18:34
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turn it up TURN ME ON posted:What's the currently recommended storage solution for this? I've got a medium ship (the Dominator) and a bunch of imperials, but currently it's just all tossed in a brown bag because I'm a garbage person. Plano tackle boxes are the gold standard for X-Wing storage. The Plano 1374 is the granddaddy (I own one, and *most* of my collection fits. The individual Plano 3750 trays are pretty good and hold a mix of small and large ships. I also assume you mean the Decimator? It's usually played as a giant wrecking ball you expect to lose. Rear Admiral Chiraneau is the best pilot, by far. Common loadouts for RAC include: Predator, Kylo Ren (crew), Darth Vader (crew), Gunner (crew), Dauntless title, Engine Upgrade and Predator, Rebel Captive (crew), Darth Vader (crew), Gunner (crew), Engine Upgrade On either build you can sub in Veteran Instincts for Predator. Basic strategy is to hit them hard, and use fast moves + engine upgrade boosts to avoid firing arcs. Use Vader crew to pick off the wounded ships nearby. The Kylo version also likes to bump into enemy ships a lot, as it can bump, take the Kylo action because of the Dauntless title, then throw a blinded pilot crit onto something to avoid even more damage.
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Jun 30, 2017 18:58
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turn it up TURN ME ON posted:What's the currently recommended storage solution for this? I've got a medium ship (the Dominator) and a bunch of imperials, but currently it's just all tossed in a brown bag because I'm a garbage person. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ8DY7JMjMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD2AjlEv0yA There are 2 videos from the same tournament of the same guy flying the Decimator with Ryad. This was an FAQ or two ago and before Kylo Ren was released, so some of the lists he's working against don't work the same as they used to. You have to treat the Decimator as a ship with a time limit. With Vader crew, you burn damage to stick a crit on ships that you otherwise couldn't hit (or maybe just want to finish off) With Chiraneau and Predator, you fly it as an arc dodger because you can safely burn your action with a boost in order to get out of arcs. You still get the reroll from Predator, and at range 1-2 you can change one focus result into a crit. The gunner/vader interaction means that sometimes you WANT to miss your first shot so you can trigger Vader twice. Say you're shooting at an ace with autothrusters straight into hull (like on a Protectorate Starfighter or a TIE Interceptor). If you miss the first shot (by using predator to reroll a hit), you get to trigger Vader to take 2 damage and deal them a crit, then you get your second shot with gunner which you're actually trying to hit with, and you might trigger Vader at the end of that also. It's 2 guaranteed crits on them at the cost of hits on you. I find that with Vader crew the biggest mistake is under-Vadering, though it's very possible to over-Vader. It takes experience (that I don't have) to gauge the sweet spot based on conditions.
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Jun 30, 2017 19:22
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Is the xwing mod for tabletop simulator on steam workshop or somewhere else?
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Jun 30, 2017 20:21
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canyoneer posted:From my local group. I need all those crack shots. It would be very funny to me if the alt-art Crackshot was somehow uglier.
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Jun 30, 2017 20:27
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Jxforema posted:Is the xwing mod for tabletop simulator on steam workshop or somewhere else? Workshop. You want the "unified x-wing mod". Or something like that. Definitely has the word "unified" in it.
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Jun 30, 2017 21:14
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turn it up TURN ME ON posted:What's the currently recommended storage solution for this? I've got a medium ship (the Dominator) and a bunch of imperials, but currently it's just all tossed in a brown bag because I'm a garbage person. The Plano mentioned above is common and works really well . I got hooked on these Stanley containers for my collection. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005QWYF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_PTRvzb5WMXJ7F I like being able to remove my little compartments for tokens. If you take out some compartments the large ships will fit in except for the ghost and one other... Lambda maybe? Can't remember. When I get home later I can upload some pictures of it in action.
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Jun 30, 2017 22:05
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I got the deep-well version of that Stanley box. If you've got access to a 3d printer, you can make containers for individual ships that also hold a few tokens and the ship dial. They're designed to fit in that case.
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Jun 30, 2017 22:09
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I've been using a Plano 3952 double sider since I started plastic crack and I'm pretty sure my collection will not fit in it anymore. So all this storage solution chat is a timely reminder that I should consider an upgrade soon.
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Jun 30, 2017 23:13
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Panzeh posted:Yeah, every game store owner i've talked to thinks yugioh has one of the worst communities ever and a couple have decided not to stock it just to be rid of them. It does sell, but good god, the people. At my flgs they deliberately clogged the toilets to flood the free gaming area. They are unwelcome now.
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Jul 1, 2017 00:10
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:At my flgs they deliberately clogged the toilets to flood the free gaming area. They are unwelcome now. 
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Jul 1, 2017 00:38
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Well, lovely player base and all.
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Jul 1, 2017 01:00
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VikingPenguin posted:I'll mail you one, if you'd like. I don't have pm, though. That is incredibly generous, you can toss me an email at bastionguard at gmail dot com
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Jul 1, 2017 01:13
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:At my flgs they deliberately clogged the toilets to flood the free gaming area. They are unwelcome now. Oh Yu Gi No.
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Jul 1, 2017 01:21
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Yugioh kids pissed all over the floor of the bathroom and the owner had to stop everyone and make an announcement that if it happened again theyd close the bathroom to the public.
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Jul 1, 2017 03:27
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2-0 so far with BBYZZ. Love the list but they are long games. 1st went to time due to my opponent being a lil slow second ended with 5 min left. If this goes to 7 or 8 games I'm gonna be wrecked. Next game is going to be against a whisper/palp/omega leader list. Any advice in the next 10 min would be great.
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Jul 1, 2017 04:53
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The shuttle will probably nullify your stress hog for the first round, it can absorb 3 stress tokens from other ships (assuming it's the classic mynock special) , the old tactic was always kill the shuttle first then whichever ace presents itself. Watch out for whisper k turning, and passing off stress. Edit: I would try to get an overconfident omega leader in all arcs at range 2 and just waste him on the first engage. hoiyes fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Jul 1, 2017 05:04
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Welp..... made 8th A bit disappointed but when it comes down to it I flew the list as best that I think it could be flow. I weaved that swarm in and out of rocks like it was nothing and was able to pull off a stupid number of blocks to line up range 1 shots for my TL/Focused B-Wings. Lots of compliments on my formation flying Loss 1: I honestly feared this list the most and the player. He has flown Whisper/Omega/Yorr+ palp for ages and is a good friend of Vernon who I got the BBYZZ list from and played against it a hell of a lot. I knew he would gun for the Y-wing since that was the best chance to shut down Whisper. I kept the Y a bit back so that he would have to push everything hard to get at it. He pushed super hard to go for the Y-Wing, but kept Whisper out of the formation's arc, but an intentional bump by me kept whisper in arc for the Y. Yorr ate the stress and BBZZ got OL down to 1 hull, but the Y lost all of it's shields. Next turn thanks to a drat good block by one of my Zs I killed OL and Yorr, but i lost the Y and a B lost all of it's shields. Had a quite a few people watching and thinking I had it in the bag. Guess they never have seen Whisper flown properly. What happened next was a Masterclass in flying Whisper and only once was I able to get more than one shot on whisper a turn. I was having to pull off reds to even get a shot and rebel captive would double it up. In the end he was just a better player by a longshot. At least after the match he told me I flew the list better than Vernon and he never came that close to beating him. Awesome guy to play against and as much as it hurt to lose couldn't have been to a nicer guy. He ended up top of swiss and 2nd in the knockout. Loss 2: Sabbac+2 Defenders(i think)Follows what happened every game expect the Whisper game. I was banging out 5 dials before my opponent would set 1 once shooting started. Also my opponent in this match showed up 10 min late because he was getting ice cream. I don't know what should happen, but it hosed me. All but one of my games went 70+ min because it just slowed to a crawl waiting for my opponents to put dials down. Came to time and I had a stressed out Ryad with one hull vs an untouched B-Wing. With his position he wasn't going to be able to avoid a range one with me having a TL/Focus shot if I got one more turn. Tad bit miffed about it, but what are you going to do. The bumpmaster list took it all in the end. Everyone wanted us to be matched up since they thought I could pull off the win, but no luck there. We had more people at our tourney in a small rural town than the shop in Sydney. There were people who drove from 7 hours away and bypassed Sydney to come here. Was a great day and got to catch up with a lot of people who I have at the Aus Open. One question though. The TO who is a friend came over during the first match(which I won) and reminded my opponent that he had PTL when he only took one action. I just assumed he only wanted to take one, but he then took the second action. I did not say anything, but is he supposed to do that? This was not a new player and he ended up in fourth at the end of the day. Now it's time to come up with a new list I have 21 days and the guy who played the bumpmaster list is coming to it. Loved BBYZZ and flying it has made me a much better pilot, but 5+ matches all 70-75 min is mentally draining and even when you win the mov is trash. Either something with the Scurrg or my newly purchased Tie Phantom. Raged fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Jul 1, 2017 13:28
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Really sorry to hear about that second loss. Those are always the worst, I think-it's one thing when you get straight-up outflown by a challenging opponent, and you did the best you could do. When you know you could have won, if you'd only had more time... those are the ones that really sting.
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Jul 1, 2017 14:40
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I'm kind of surprised that there wasn't something in place to give an automatic loss to someone who is late by a certain length of time. Ten minutes is a really solid chunk of the round, and I think it would be fair to give a loss to someone that late to a match. I'm all for flying casual all day every day, but large tournaments like that need some structure.
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Jul 1, 2017 14:59
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Raged posted:One question though. The TO who is a friend came over during the first match(which I won) and reminded my opponent that he had PTL when he only took one action. I just assumed he only wanted to take one, but he then took the second action. I did not say anything, but is he supposed to do that? This was not a new player and he ended up in fourth at the end of the day. Bystanders of any form are abso-fuckin-lutely not supposed to "remind," coach, ask pointed "questions," or loudly speculate on potential moves or actions, around a game. Your TO f'd up there, and should have known better, being the TO and all.
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Tequila Ranger posted:Bystanders of any form are abso-fuckin-lutely not supposed to "remind," coach, ask pointed "questions," or loudly speculate on potential moves or actions, around a game. Your TO f'd up there, and should have known better, being the TO and all. I dunno. Read the official tournament rules for "relaxed" tier. Formal or premiere, absolutely.
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Jul 1, 2017 16:45
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