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skylined! posted:this is actually kinda in line with the way he behaved as an intel officer There's was numerous Russian assassinations in England that England then covered up. So if I was in this position I'd be laying it all out there in the public
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HPanda posted:Oregon's history is pretty racist, but about on par with the rest of the country. Absolutely, white supremacy has been the law of the land as long as we've been a nation. Oregon, and the rest of the non southern states aren't immune to that history. Glowing-fish, I can see you sent a PM, but when trying to read it I'm getting network errors. I am currently phone posting from happy hour with my wife and a dying battery, I'll hit you up at some point tonight.
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OddObserver posted:Curious about that company established to "avoid campaign reporting". Not even just as a hint hint nudge nudge way either, explicitly set up to avoid campaign reporting requirements. Also the attempt to get him under a NDA after all the back and forth is sketchy as hell.
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I find it amusing that Allie Brosh's little joke, invented 8 years ago, probably during a boring winter night in Hamilton, Montana, is now being used by someone in the middle of international cyberespionage.
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Chilichimp posted:Wouldn't it be hilarious if Seth Rich really was murdered, but by Trumps campaign, because they tried to flip him to get them e-mail and he refused? Why the gently caress not? Gotta top nixon somehow right?
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:wait holy poo poo So does this mean Bannon can be charged with something? These stories are getting so big and implicating so many people I can't keep track of what this means for who.
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Comstar posted:So does this mean Bannon can be charged with something? These stories are getting so big and implicating so many people I can't keep track of what this means for who. No. This suggests a lot of the team may have been aware or even orchestrating weird dealings with shady internet (Russian?) figures. But not definitively, and things were probably set up in a plausibly deniable way (if things were as dirty as this account suggests they may have been). But maybe there's more of a trail, maybe someone flips. e:I don't actually know what offenses they could be charged with if these suspicions are true.
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Anyone getting real worried about Trump's meeting with Putin after having all this come out?
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Mustached Demon posted:Anything east of the Cascades in Oregon is a deep red hell scape. Anything 100 miles inland in the United States is basically a deep red hellscape. Unless it's a large city. It's almost as if having to live with different people makes you way more tolerant or something.
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Office Pig posted:Anyone getting real worried about Trump's meeting with Putin after having all this come out? Being completely honest, I don't know if he's even going to go.
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EwokEntourage posted:Makes you wonder what Mueller has if they've been this bad about covering their tracks I'm guessing this guy has was interviewed by Comey before March. And I am also guessing he knows more than he can say in this article. Amazed that something like this is on the backburner, while the twitter feud is still on the front page. Rinkles posted:No. This suggests a lot of the team may have been aware or even orchestrating weird dealings with shady internet (Russian?) figures. But not definitively, and things were probably set up in a plausibly deniable way (if things were as dirty as this account suggests they may have been). But maybe there's more of a trail, maybe someone flips. Remember that one of Mueller's team is Michael Dreeben, "the best criminal appellate lawyer in America". The crime might be hard to understand for laymen, but the best prosecutors in the United States are working on this.
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FlamingLiberal posted:All of this stuff makes the whole Roger Stone admission of being in contact with Guccifer 2.0 all the more interesting. Yeah, I don't get it. He says he knew that Gucci was the Russians, and after Roger Stone said he had a backchannel with Gucci, shouldn't this whole thing have been obvious to him?
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Office Pig posted:Anyone getting real worried about Trump's meeting with Putin after having all this come out? he will leak or do something insane/dumb and it will explode bigger.
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Turtlicious posted:I can't get around the WSJ paywall, can anyone tell me how or post the Article?
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Everyone I know that's actually from DC (and not just the rich white parts) has told me this about Seth Rich: "Do you know where he was shot? A white dude probably gets shot there every weekend" I like the conspiracy theory that he planted a bug for the russians and they whacked him to cover it up. Which is like 45% plausible with how crazy things are.
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Serfer posted:Yeah, I don't get it. He says he knew that Gucci was the Russians, and after Roger Stone said he had a backchannel with Gucci, shouldn't this whole thing have been obvious to him? He was probably scared as hell at that point and didn't want to say too much/too little. But as a computer nerd he still also wanted to see the emails. Something about the Trump people always makes me picture them in a panic though. I wonder if the Russians are loving with them too.
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The lawfare post is fascinating and I'd like to see where we go from here. I'd love to seem ore break on this aspect of things, WaPo and NYT you're up. Also Washington state argues with Mississippi over what body of water the Electoral Integrity Commission should jump in. https://twitter.com/GovInslee/status/880984065309982720
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Chilichimp posted:Wouldn't it be hilarious if Seth Rich really was murdered, but by Trumps campaign, because they tried to flip him to get them e-mail and he refused? How is this the conspiracy theory and not the fact that Smith died shortly after talking with the WSJ I mean, I can't believe trump had anything to do with it, but it makes more sense than Trump killing Seth Rich (or anyone trying to assaniate him)
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Spite posted:He was probably scared as hell at that point and didn't want to say too much/too little. But as a computer nerd he still also wanted to see the emails. To me it seems fascinating. You have
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Office Pig posted:Anyone getting real worried about Trump's meeting with Putin after having all this come out? I would never stop laughing if he defected in the middle of the G-20 That would be one hell of a constitutional crisis for the 15 minutes until he gets impeached
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EwokEntourage posted:Makes you wonder what Mueller has if they've been this bad about covering their tracks He probably watches the piss tape every morning to pump himself up before spending all day working on a case so air tight he could use it as a space suit.
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The Glumslinger posted:I would never stop laughing if he defecated in the middle of the G-20
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The Glumslinger posted:I would never stop laughing if he defected in the middle of the G-20 Trump never defected. I am defected, and no one did anything. Why don't they arrest Obama? Because they're corrupt. And besides, there's nothing illegal about defecting. Even if Trump defected, which he didn't it would be fine. I'd like to announce that today, Trump defected, he will be signing all future bills from the Kremlin. Need I remind you Russia helped us win the war to end all wars?
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I'm just going to come out and say it. I loving loathe Russia. The more I learn about this the more disgusted and angry I get
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The Glumslinger posted:How is this the conspiracy theory and not the fact that Smith died shortly after talking with the WSJ I agree (10 days). But it'd be tasteless for us to dwell on. I trust someone in the investigation will handle it appropriately.
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Boon posted:I'm just going to come out and say it. I loving loathe Russia. The more I learn about this the more disgusted and angry I get Do you hang out in the OSHA.jpg thread in GBS? Half the posts are Russia.
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The Glumslinger posted:How is this the conspiracy theory and not the fact that Smith died shortly after talking with the WSJ Because it was a loving joke drawing on the irony of the right wing keeping Seth Rich conspiracies alive.
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Mustached Demon posted:Do you hang out in the OSHA.jpg thread in GBS? Half the posts are Russia. Russia is all the bad poo poo about Trumpism dialed to 11. The oligarchs own everything, effectively a dictatorship, brutal homophobia, church used as a propaganda tool, nationalism/racism, denial of HIV leading to an HIV/AIDS epidemic. But the military still runs! Sort of! Well, at least the nukes are pretty threatening.
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Pellisworth posted:Russia is all the bad poo poo about Trumpism dialed to 11. The oligarchs own everything, effectively a dictatorship, brutal homophobia, church used as a propaganda tool, nationalism/racism, denial of HIV leading to an HIV/AIDS epidemic. But the military still runs! Sort of! Well, at least the nukes are pretty threatening. Important bits you didn't explicitly mention: their lack of independent judiciary, law enforcement and (generally) local self-government. You wouldn't find Russian courts blocking their government's blatant disregard for rights explicitly guaranteed by Russian constitution. If Putin says to his top cop to lay off a certain investigation, that investigation will be stopped. If Moscow remembers regions exist, and needs something from them they'll follow orders and not tell the Moscow official to go jump into lake Baikal. Basically, Putin runs the country the way Trump wishes he could.
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Collusion, espionage, etc. etc. or not, it's still insane to me that they never really produced anything that damaging for all their efforts. I think the worst thing I remember seeing in all the hacked emails was that Clinton got a debate question early, and some DNC staffer had an awful idea about a Bernie ad... which was never used.
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Office Pig posted:Anyone getting real worried about Trump's meeting with Putin after having all this come out? I was wondering if there was some other stuff I missed given the constant flood of insanity. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/29/trump-putin-raises-worries-240124 (probably already posted and if so, apologies) Looks like Trump is going into the meeting with absolutely no clue what he's doing. (shocking) But luckily Henry Kissinger met up with Putin the other day to discuss optimal ways to commit crimes or something.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Trump never defected. I am defected, and no one did anything. Why don't they arrest Obama? Because they're corrupt. And besides, there's nothing illegal about defecting. Even if Trump defected, which he didn't it would be fine. I'd like to announce that today, Trump defected, he will be signing all future bills from the Kremlin. Need I remind you Russia helped us win the war to end all wars? Spicer voice: It's funny you mention that but you refuse to cover the fact that former President Obama slept on a bed that had been urinated on by Russian prostitutes.
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NikkolasKing posted:I was wondering if there was some other stuff I missed given the constant flood of insanity. Oh man, if Kissinger, Kush, and Trump all somehow go to jail, I might never stop jizzing
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EatinCake posted:Collusion, espionage, etc. etc. or not, it's still insane to me that they never really produced anything that damaging for all their efforts. That is true, if we're just looking at the emails. We don't have evidence like what the WSJ just showed us on the bots/hacking into parts of the election system itself yet.
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