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The 5+ pilot robots always seem way squisher than the lesser pilot giant robots like Big O for whatever reason.
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EthanSteele posted:That's what I meant by being ok in J being damning. In a game where almost every other super can solo every stage of the game if you click end turn enough times being "ok" doesn't really cut it. I mean, it's still better than every real in the game and it can still solo enemy waves with proper spirit use. Plus, having Enable and Renew on a unit that can actually deal damage is pretty nice to have, even if you will only get one cast.
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Jul 1, 2017 00:19
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I'd use Combattler and Voltes even if they sucked because of their theme songs and because I love big blocky super robots. They usually serve me well enough.
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Jul 1, 2017 01:43
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Tae posted:The 5+ pilot robots always seem way squisher than the lesser pilot giant robots like Big O for whatever reason. Because the theory is that someone's supposed to be casting iron wall or invincible every turn even if it doesn't actually work out that way til 5 minutes before the game ends.
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Jul 1, 2017 02:10
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WrightOfWay posted:I mean, it's still better than every real in the game and it can still solo enemy waves with proper spirit use. J has Tekkaman Blade as Layzner Mk2 so it's not better than every real.
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Jul 1, 2017 04:48
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WrightOfWay posted:I mean, it's still better than every real in the game Freedom and Justice say hi.
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Jul 1, 2017 06:03
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The main problem with reals in J is the AI targeting thing.
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Jul 1, 2017 11:43
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Combattler/Voltes (they usually appear together and there's no practical differences anyway) are among the top tiers in Alpha 1, Alpha Gaiden and A Portable IMO. It's kind of correct that generally multi-pilot Supers will tend to have worse stats than their single-pilot counterparts as a balance factor - the times where it doesn't happen is when you get Shin Getter being top tier, which happens a lot. So you'll probably notice a trend in that the games in which C/V are very good are those where the enemy numbers just outscales the players such that you have to heavily rely on Spirits. To break down in detail Alpha 1: The big factor is that Alpha 1 uses the Winkysoft damage formula which has Morale has a straight damage multiplier. So one of the dominant strategies is to just slam on the Yell spirit like 5 times and then stomp all over the enemy. Single unit pilot can't really do this because then they won't have any SP left to cast utility like Strike, but multi-pilot don't have that problem. Alpha Gaiden: They switched to the modern formula now so the previous strategy isn't good anymore. They did forever add Faith (IIRC 80 SP to give 50 SP to another unit) but Alpha Gaiden's version restored SP to all pilots in a unit when it gets cast! Later games made it so that it would only restore SP to the head pilot, but Alpha Gaiden is basically converting a whole bunch of 80 SP on pilots you don't care about into 200-250 SP per pop. Oh and some of the multi-pilot supers themselves have Faith. A Portable: The enemy quality is really high in this game that you have to rely on Spirits a lot.
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Jul 1, 2017 12:26
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Oh crap am I missing Alpha 2 discussion? Regarding huge maps, oh my god this a thousand times. This is some Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War poo poo. So far in my work on Alpha 2, my favorite thing in the world is when the girls are just about to leave ship to visit a bathhouse, and then suddenly klaxons go off and you get this:  The moral of the story is do not loving stand between Kusuha Mizuha and a hot bath
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Jul 1, 2017 14:46
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Gundam Versus' US release date is September 29th. Europe is "later this Fall" and Japan is still in 5 days.
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Jul 1, 2017 21:19
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I've just beaten V, and I'm curious about the backlash to the POD backlash. Not being familiar with the franchise, I assume people hate it because of Akito's characterization in the movie Was there anything else that made the movie as lovely as it is?
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Jul 2, 2017 02:00
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akito's characterization, ruri being the main character just because she's popular even though she isn't really suited to the main character role and wasn't *that* important in the original series, a lot of the plot developments/changes seeming kind of random. I kind of like PoD as its own movie, it's got a lot of really neat animation and some cool scenes.
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Jul 2, 2017 02:03
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Willo567 posted:I've just beaten V, and I'm curious about the backlash to the POD backlash. Not being familiar with the franchise, I assume people hate it because of Akito's characterization in the movie I asked the exact same thing a few pages back. Basically despite the events and themes of it, Nadesico ended on a really hopeful, light note with characters who had progressed as characters, grown up but were still who they were. The movie comes along and suddenly Akito is gritty space batman, yurika is a box and Ruri is the main character even though she doesn't really have the characterization to hold up a starring role on her own. Then it ends on a really lame note expecting sequels that never happened.
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Jul 2, 2017 02:15
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in FMW4 Lilly Black is Black Serena and reminds me again how boring that unit is other than its music. edit: Akito is supposed to be a master boson jumper but has no jump-based attacks like his enemies do. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Jul 2, 2017 02:18
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Hokuto posted:Oh crap am I missing Alpha 2 discussion? dare I ask for progress?
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Nuebot posted:I asked the exact same thing a few pages back. Basically despite the events and themes of it, Nadesico ended on a really hopeful, light note with characters who had progressed as characters, grown up but were still who they were. The movie comes along and suddenly Akito is gritty space batman, yurika is a box and Ruri is the main character even though she doesn't really have the characterization to hold up a starring role on her own. Then it ends on a really lame note expecting sequels that never happened. Heck, the robots aren't even as much fun. the Aestivalises you get in V are garbage compared tot he ones in J, which were from the original show and had multiple frames you could use.
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Jul 2, 2017 03:59
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Are the Aestvalis's in J actually good? Because I didn't get too far in that game and my only impression of the Aestvalis's in that game was 'generic lovely reals umbilicalled to the Nadisico' I tried to play that game again after V and I just looked at the GBA UI and was just...ugh.
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Jul 2, 2017 04:17
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They're good, but in the context of J, not as good as the absurdly broken reals like the entire Tekkaman squad and Justice/Freedom.
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Jul 2, 2017 04:22
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ChrisBTY posted:Are the Aestvalis's in J actually good? Ryoko, Izuki, and Hikaru are fantastic. Together they can use their team attack three times a turn, and J is a game where boss units tend to have strong defenses that team attacks bypass. Being umbilicalled to the Nadisico is often a positive. There are a lot of good units in J.
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Jul 2, 2017 04:25
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ChrisBTY posted:Are the Aestvalis's in J actually good?
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Schwarzwald posted:Ryoko, Izuki, and Hikaru are fantastic. Together they can use their team attack three times a turn, and J is a game where boss units tend to have strong defenses that team attacks bypass. Being umbilicalled to the Nadisico is often a positive. The nadesico doesn't refill their energy to max each turn, unfortunately, but being able to bust out their team attacks 3x a turn is pretty good and they're decent at clearing trash since you'll almost always have them really close at hand and within spitting distance of the nadesico. They're not Tekkaman tier of awesome or anywhere near the ridiculousness of Granteed or the Mazingers but I tend to use them the whole game because they're just solid units. Especially great if you're ever trying to do something like kill Devil Gundam for that sweet, sweet bless cash but he bails at like 10k health so you need to chip him down just enough for your supers to swoop in and nuke it.
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Jul 2, 2017 07:16
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Willo567 posted:I've just beaten V, and I'm curious about the backlash to the POD backlash. Not being familiar with the franchise, I assume people hate it because of Akito's characterization in the movie For what it's worth it doesn't help that in every previous SRW adaption of POD the units were either mediocre at best or withheld till the end game. In previous games, Akito was a fun unit that you only got to use for a couple of stages. Contrast with V in which he's permanently part of the roster before the half way point. The movie is also disliked for ending on a clifhanger that was never resolved. This isn't a problem in SRW though since they just tie POD into other series.
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Jul 2, 2017 17:42
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Race Realists posted:dare I ask for progress? It's going to be a long while. Even if I get the scenario dialogue done this year, that's only part of the equation. I haven't touched the battle dialogue or databases, and anything graphical isn't even in a touchable state yet, like location screens and stage title screens.
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Jul 2, 2017 20:57
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Being tethered to the Nadesico isn't really an issue for the Aestavalises (Aestavali?) in most of the games the series appears in - heck, I think V is the only game it shows up that has Battle Masteries (which usually translates to turn limits on missions) They're usually mid tier pushing a slight edge towards the "good" end, but I think they're actually pretty top tier in R.
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Jul 3, 2017 14:45
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Davzz posted:Being tethered to the Nadesico isn't really an issue for the Aestavalises (Aestavali?) in most of the games the series appears in - heck, I think V is the only game it shows up that has Battle Masteries (which usually translates to turn limits on missions) Impact? Inferno-sama fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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Jul 3, 2017 15:37
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So I can't resist temptation anymore and am going to get SRW V. I just can't decide whether to go Vita or PS4; portable SRW is great, but then big-screen HD is pretty rad when I can get my wife off the TV. Are there any major differences or performance/loading issues between Vita/PS4? Also, is it good? Better than Z3?
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Jul 4, 2017 04:24
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I don't know about differences; but stages feel pretty long to me? Not like J-tier where you're fighting five bosses in a row or anything but unless I'm just exceptionally slow, I find most stages past the halfway point take like an hour or so to get through. I don't know how you'd really play the game without your vita battery dying.
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Jul 4, 2017 04:37
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thorsilver posted:So I can't resist temptation anymore and am going to get SRW V. I just can't decide whether to go Vita or PS4; portable SRW is great, but then big-screen HD is pretty rad when I can get my wife off the TV. You could get the PS4 version and do remote play when the wife won't give up the TV.
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Jul 4, 2017 04:51
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Inferno-sama posted:Impact? The Aestivalises were extremely good in Impact for three main reasons. First, the Nadesico in that game was possibly the most overpowered incarnation of the Nadesico ever in the context of the other units in the game, which is saying something. Second, the game had some pretty serious resource concerns for a lot of the game on a lot of units that the Aestivalises largely ignored. Third, the game gave you the Lunar Frames, which had extremely powerful finisher-class 2-7 P missiles that could be used off the bat and then the frame could be immediately discarded for whichever normal frame you preferred, meaning that they had a ton of up-front damage output in the early parts of stages when will was still low. They weren't bleeding edge top tier but they were definitely extremely good.
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Jul 4, 2017 07:23
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I suggest PS4, partially because from what I've heard the Vita is kinda a huge pain in the rear end to deal with when it comes to non American games since it can only hold one account at a time
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Jul 4, 2017 08:23
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drrockso20 posted:I suggest PS4, partially because from what I've heard the Vita is kinda a huge pain in the rear end to deal with when it comes to non American games since it can only hold one account at a time If it's the physical version, it's not an issue. Physical Vita games are region free and don't care about your PSN region. I have the Vita version and it looks good. It's tough since the PS4 version is of course going to look superior and remote play gives you the best of both worlds, but I'm more than happy with getting the Vita version.
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Jul 4, 2017 09:47
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Hunter Noventa posted:You could get the PS4 version and do remote play when the wife won't give up the TV. You're a genius  How did I not think of that?!Nuebot posted:I don't know about differences; but stages feel pretty long to me? Not like J-tier where you're fighting five bosses in a row or anything but unless I'm just exceptionally slow, I find most stages past the halfway point take like an hour or so to get through. I don't know how you'd really play the game without your vita battery dying. Well the Vita's battery isn't great, but to be fair, sleep mode is incredibly convenient and uses barely any power, so playing long games on Vita is generally fine IMO. Although it might be a bit annoying not to be able to actually complete a stage during my commute, if they're all that long.
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Jul 4, 2017 11:48
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thorsilver posted:So I can't resist temptation anymore and am going to get SRW V. I just can't decide whether to go Vita or PS4; portable SRW is great, but then big-screen HD is pretty rad when I can get my wife off the TV. I can't say whether or not it is better than Z3 because I have only played the games I can play in English. (J, Moon Dwellers, Alpha Gaiden) SRW V is the only SRW game I've played that didn't completely burn me out before I could finish it. There is a fair knock on it being a little too easy. But that didn't really start to get to me until about 3/4ths of a second playthrough where I spent the first 35 chapters making things explode by looking at them funny. Also, it has a bot based on an existing IPs that is unique to that game Mazin Emperor G and it is just the best goddamn thing.
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ChrisBTY posted:I can't say whether or not it is better than Z3 because I have only played the games I can play in English. (J, Moon Dwellers, Alpha Gaiden) The game definitely tanks in difficulty if you level up any of the cool mechs at all. Especially with how easy it is to make a unit take like five moves in one turn, counter every enemy with their best skill and then just refill their EN next turn.
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Jul 4, 2017 12:32
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I thought that going back to only being able to use seishins during my turn in FMW4 was going to give me trouble but I guess my brain hasn't completely gone soft from V.
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Jul 4, 2017 12:47
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ChrisBTY posted:I can't say whether or not it is better than Z3 because I have only played the games I can play in English. (J, Moon Dwellers, Alpha Gaiden) 
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Jul 4, 2017 14:16
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The Disaster Report-like survive as a civilian during a giant robot/monster fight game Kyoei Toshi is going to have Patlabor in it. Not to pilot though of course, that's the whole point. Also the release date is 10/19. This could turn out to be a really special game. https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/882162133399552005/photo/1 http://knst.bn-ent.net/ Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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Jul 4, 2017 16:13
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Samurai Sanders posted:The Disaster Report-like survive as a civilian during a giant robot/monster fight game Kyoei Toshi is going to have Patlabor in it. Not to pilot though of course, that's the whole point. Also the release date is 10/19. This could turn out to be a really special game. Will one of the hazards be a berzerk Ohta running and gunning all over town? This is important to me.
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Jul 4, 2017 16:21
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Do any of you lot know if any of the Japanese wikis for Z3.2 have the Ace conversations transcribed? I know one had a couple from Z3.1, but I can't even find that now.
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In a moment of weakness I preordered Gundam Versus. The last one of these games I played for hours on end was Gundam vs Z-Gundam so maybe it was a mistake, we'll see.
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