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Humphreys posted:I don't work in the air industry anymore but yesterday I got "E for Alpha" over the radio from one of my co-workers. There is no way in the world he will let that one go, my reply was "I guess being an Army Reservist means you reserve the right to be a dumbass" Between Army SF Dad and JROTC, I just use NATO phonetic whenever I have to spell something on the phone. None of this "A as in apple, D as in dog" bullshit. If you ask me to spell my name, I say "Juliett Uniform Sierra Tango India November," and they figure it out. E: gently caress, new page. Today I went to have dinner with my parents, and my father, while ranting about the current geopolitical situation, said "I lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis. I've heard B-52s fly over at 600 feet headed north, and not just one." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnYFRoxsKWw There's just one, somewhat lower than 600ft, but I get Dad's point. Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Delivery McGee posted:
It's like its own air raid siren.
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Delivery McGee posted:That's sad and hilarious. And deserves a paddlin'. I'm ex-Army Aircraft tech and I still have nanna moments and say 'B for Bob, M for Mary" etc. It will be "Alpha Bob Charlie Dogo" types of brain farts but at least I get the letters right! And in my defence, I deal with a lot of the elderly so using what they hear on Wheel of Fortune works.
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Delivery McGee posted:Today I went to have dinner with my parents, and my father, while ranting about the current geopolitical situation, said "I lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis. I've heard B-52s fly over at 600 feet headed north, and not just one."
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The J57s seemed about as loud. Maybe there's a noticeable difference when you've got 8 though. What's scary is those TF33s produce about 175% as much power as the initial B-52 J57s
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I understand regular joes, but what kills me is gate agents taking to ops, and similar interactions, doing the "Apple Bob" thing. Listening to it, you know different ones have different words they use, and it has to cause them some mental slowdown and confusion... if only there was a standardized phonetic alphabet for use in the aviation industry, that could be so helpful to them!
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vessbot posted:I understand regular joes, but what kills me is gate agents taking to ops, and similar interactions, doing the "Apple Bob" thing. Listening to it, you know different ones have different words they use, and it has to cause them some mental slowdown and confusion... if only there was a standardized phonetic alphabet for use in the aviation industry, that could be so helpful to them! What kills me is when I'm talking to a gate agent face-to-face and I say "I've got seat 31 bravo and I was hoping for 13 charlie" and they look like they've never heard the words "bravo" or "charlie" before. Immediately after, they ask "what's your record locator" and it's some five-character thing like "x-ray five charlie romeo foxtrot" and there's this solid, blank stare. I've just prepped you for the fact that I'm going to use a standardized phonetic alphabet for letters since we're in a noisy gate environment and I don't want to have to yell my information or say something twice. Don't pretend like you've never heard these words before in this context Ms "20 years' service" Gate Agent. Or maybe the blank stares are because they're trying to process that one of the pieces of self-loading cargo may be somewhat competent?
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:What kills me is when I'm talking to a gate agent face-to-face and I say "I've got seat 31 bravo and I was hoping for 13 charlie" and they look like they've never heard the words "bravo" or "charlie" before. Immediately after, they ask "what's your record locator" and it's some five-character thing like "x-ray five charlie romeo foxtrot" and there's this solid, blank stare. I've just prepped you for the fact that I'm going to use a standardized phonetic alphabet for letters since we're in a noisy gate environment and I don't want to have to yell my information or say something twice. Don't pretend like you've never heard these words before in this context Ms "20 years' service" Gate Agent. Really showed them
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:What kills me is when I'm talking to a gate agent face-to-face and I say "I've got seat 31 bravo and I was hoping for 13 charlie" and they look like they've never heard the words "bravo" or "charlie" before. Immediately after, they ask "what's your record locator" and it's some five-character thing like "x-ray five charlie romeo foxtrot" and there's this solid, blank stare. I've just prepped you for the fact that I'm going to use a standardized phonetic alphabet for letters since we're in a noisy gate environment and I don't want to have to yell my information or say something twice. Don't pretend like you've never heard these words before in this context Ms "20 years' service" Gate Agent. A lot of my clients' employees are military/ ex-military, and I can tell you that it's hard for our tiny monkey brains to comprehend sounds in a way we haven't practiced. When you say "Foxtrot," I don't hear F, I hear an English word that takes the barest moment of interpretation to comprehend. As our social interactions usually transpire without comprehension delay, yeah the additional latency is going to be awkward. There's a little shock, too: "Why is this guy choosing to stand out with phonetic alphabet right now, does s/he want me to treat him/her differently for some reason?"
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K as in knight, P as in phone, H as in herb, M like mnemonic...
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Jonny Nox posted:E as in exit A as in aether, O as in Oedipus
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Eggplant, Xerxes, Criminy, Overbite, Narwhal
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Apparently on Christmas last year Palm Springs airport did all their ATIS information as "Reindeer," "Mistletoe," and so forth.
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My flight instructor laughed quite hard for all on frequency to hear when I told Approach I had "information uhhh.... Indigo?". He kept laughing through the remainder of the lesson with intermittent outbursts of "indigo?!!".
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Inacio posted:
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Inacio posted:
I see the argentinian af pilot that did that famous 1 foot low pass has decided to go make money in the civilian world.
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cowboy elvis posted:737. Relatively short one too, a 700? You can tell it's a 737 and not a 320 by the shape of the butt. The 320 is more conic, the 737's has a little slope to it. e: forgot which numbers go to which classic vs. NG series.
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to be even more  about it, it looks like a 737 Classic so a 300/400/500. I'd guess 300, personally.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Relatively short one too, a 700? Even easier is the vertical stab. 737 has that additional angled section forward of the main stab. I'm not really up on my 737s but I think that was added because of the tail falling off incidents?
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a patagonian cavy posted:to be even more I'm not sure Aerolineas Argentinas flew the -300. They definitely had -500s though.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Relatively short one too, a 700? The very forward-slung engine pods is the visual cue I use.
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StandardVC10 posted:I'm not sure Aerolineas Argentinas flew the -300. They definitely had -500s though. They could be NGs as well because I know they flew the -700, many of which are flying for Southwest today. Pure guesswork on my part
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Inacio posted:
 If you use Google reverse image search you get:  Which shows you that it's LV-BEO - a 737-5Y0 which is a 737-500 apparently (what does the Y0 bit mean)
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I think the last two digits are the customer code, since every airline gets their own slightly different version of the plane when they initially purchase it. e: yep, Y0 is "Guinness Peat Aviation"  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness_Peat_Aviation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_customer_codes
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Sagebrush posted:I think the last two digits are the customer code, since every airline gets their own slightly different version of the plane when they initially purchase it. Uh why did the FAA buy a 727 direct from boeing?
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cowboy elvis posted:737. So it is! Looks so stubby in that photo!
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hobbesmaster posted:Uh why did the FAA buy a 727 direct from boeing? Trying to figure out why, but here's a reference to the plane itself: http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19730727-1
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Inacio posted:So it is! Looks so stubby in that photo!  It's come a long way!
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Sagebrush posted:First-generation 737s are the On occasion I get to work a Yukon -200 that is flying through southern Illinois for whatever reason. Haven't seen them in a while though.
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I was in row 17 (front row,) on one of Alaska's -400 Combis for the SEA-ANC midnight run last September. I think they're all retired now. 
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MrYenko posted:I was in row 17 (front row,) on one of Alaska's -400 Combis for the SEA-ANC midnight run last September. I think they're all retired now. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA51/history/20170701/0132Z/PANC/PABR Don't they still use the combis for this flight a few times a week?
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Jealous Cow posted:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA51/history/20170701/0132Z/PANC/PABR I assume he meant for lower 48 to Alaska routes not intra Alaska
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david_a posted:Are the TF33s louder or quieter than the original engines? The B-52H started showing up in 1961 so I'm not sure which versions he would have heard back in '62. Godholio posted:The J57s seemed about as loud. Maybe there's a noticeable difference when you've got 8 though.  I guess you'd hear the J57s coming from farther away.That video is of one landing, so probably at flight idle, and then I took still photos of the one before it and three after it, and my hearing was pretty much wrecked for the rest of the day and probably permanently damaged. At full power ... ouch. The next one in after the one in the video:  One taking off rolling coal, photographed from the casino/horse track parking lot a few miles away:  Copypaste and remove the l before the . for fullsize if you wanna see how wrinkly a 55-year-old bomber is. If you're ever in Shreveport/Bossier, the museum is worth a visit(IDK what hoops you have to jump through to get in, last time I went was 25 years ago when it was just inside the main gate of the base, but it might be outside the base now so you can still get in?), and the BUFFs fly around in circles from 3pm to 6pm most days, if you want to experience the whole Cold War thing. ... it's kinda weird that I just accept heavy bombers overhead as a fact of life in TYOOL 2017, isn't it? Most people ... don't live 60 miles from a USAF base and do a lot of work in the town around said base. Edit: Cocoa Crispies posted:Trying to figure out why, but here's a reference to the plane itself: http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19730727-1 Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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I was in the wheel well of a B-52 with engines at 80% a few days ago and even with earplugs and earmuff it physically hurt a little bit. The wind down also wild since I lost all relativity of sound levels and started taking my stuff off while the engines were still on just at idle because I thought there was nothing. edit: I guess I should clarify it was a ground test if thats what you are whatting about. Xenoborg fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Xenoborg posted:I was in the wheel well of a B-52 with engines at 80% a few days ago and even with earplugs and earmuff it physically hurt a little bit. The wind down also wild since I lost all relativity of sound levels and started taking my stuff off while the engines were still on just at idle because I thought there was nothing. WHAT???
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