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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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So, it dawn on anyone else that there is a likely chance that DBS might go from "Freeza Returns From The Dead" to "Alternate Universe Freeza Is A Bit Villain In This Story Arc" to "Freeza Comes Back Again And Teams Up with AU Freeza" to "Another Freeza Specific Storyline."? Like, they're hinting at Freeza surviving this arc since that's his goal. If he makes it through, we might have another storyline with Freeza as the main villain. That just dawned on me and I don't know if I'm okay with that. Anyhoo, I'm glad they finally establishing how a God of Destrustions "destroy" power works. Anything destroyed with their "Energy of Destruction" is utterly gone, not even sent to the Afterlife. Really does drive home what it means if Zen-Oh sama goes through with his poo poo, ya know? I mean, can the Super Dragon Balls unerase all those universe? I thought that might be where Goku is going with this, his big reverse to remind us he's a good guy and, hey, it's a story so it works, but it also makes it hyper grim if they don't somehow stop all those universes from vanishing. It wouldn't be normal DB death. Also, this means Zamasu is the only villain to be ever, truly destroyed in the DB series so far.
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Jul 1, 2017 07:23
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Kibito is the kindly racist grandpa who never ceased to be surprised by those dirty poo poo worthless ningen, makes him proud to kaio Zamasu is columbine
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Jul 1, 2017 07:25
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Covok posted:So, it dawn on anyone else can't speak for anyone else but it seems poo poo blatant obvious to me they're setting Freiza up for some kind of deicide or hakai'ing (giving, not getting) or some poo poo for the penultimate arc of the story, I assume also remember he has 24 hours of life, the excuse of energy blah blah, meaning after an hour tournament he has 23 hours to do bullshit before a possible comedically timed pull back to hell or who knows
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Jul 1, 2017 07:31
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How are people generally responding to DBS? Favorably or unfavorably?
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Jul 1, 2017 11:16
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I'm possibly the only person that would care about it in this thread but hey, DBS is getting a PT-BR dub with the original cast! The movies got one so it's not a MASSIVE surprise but it's cool news nevertheless. Also who knows maybe we could get a DBFZ dub too pleeeease?
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Jul 1, 2017 11:48
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Covok posted:How are people generally responding to DBS? Favorably or unfavorably? People who like Dragonball because it's pretty funny and not all serious fight times tend to like it. People who think DBZ is a bad-rear end fight manga, not as much.
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Jul 1, 2017 12:39
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People who like debating powerlevels have either dropped the show or weep tears of blood as they watch it.
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Jul 1, 2017 12:52
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Pureauthor posted:People who like debating powerlevels have either dropped the show or weep tears of blood as they watch it. Its seriously the best. Also I will not abide people going 'Oh Cell wasn't that evil', dude loving drank people and openly boasted about his intent to destroy the earth if he won and tried to destroy it anyway when he lost because he's a whiny rear end in a top hat when things didn't go his way. When I was watching he felt more unpleasant than Frieza TBH. If they did bring him back I'd only want it to be so that he can job to a more powerful villain or so that one of the androids gets the opportunity to kick his rear end.
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Jul 1, 2017 14:29
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Covok posted:So, it dawn on anyone else that there is a likely chance that DBS might go from "Freeza Returns From The Dead" to "Alternate Universe Freeza Is A Bit Villain In This Story Arc" to "Freeza Comes Back Again And Teams Up with AU Freeza" to "Another Freeza Specific Storyline."? Like, they're hinting at Freeza surviving this arc since that's his goal. If he makes it through, we might have another storyline with Freeza as the main villain. That just dawned on me and I don't know if I'm okay with that. I don't think that'll happen, even the guys in Super will probably agree that there's such a thing as too much Frieza. Personally, I suspect that Frieza might even get Hakai'd by the time the arc ends or if he survives he could even learn a bit of humility and stay the gently caress away from the Z fighters(the closest thing to a change of heart I think he's capable of, we won't see him babysitting Bulla anyway). Or he could just end up back in hell. In any event I doubt he'll be playing a significant villain role after the ToP again. I also think there's a possibility that Frost might get some redemption and loving over Frieza might be how he gets there.
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Jul 1, 2017 14:35
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for a while I thought it was funny that 3 members of the universe 7 team have killed other members of the team, nappa blew up a city and killed a bunch of earthlings but vegeta just kills nappa and maybe some saibamen. on namek he only kills freeza's henchmen and in the buu saga he kills some civilians. outside of that he's never in contention with goku or the other protagonists. really thought he did more damage than that. fake edit: tho all of them but roshi have actively tried to kill another member of their team (tien gave up on it pretty quick and the androids didn't really seem to care about goku on a personal level, but it was still a thing) Manatee Cannon fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Jul 1, 2017 14:42
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Covok posted:Anyhoo, I'm glad they finally establishing how a God of Destrustions "destroy" power works. Anything destroyed with their "Energy of Destruction" is utterly gone, not even sent to the Afterlife. Really does drive home what it means if Zen-Oh sama goes through with his poo poo, ya know? I mean, can the Super Dragon Balls unerase all those universe? I thought that might be where Goku is going with this, his big reverse to remind us he's a good guy and, hey, it's a story so it works, but it also makes it hyper grim if they don't somehow stop all those universes from vanishing. It wouldn't be normal DB death. I noticed this with Zamasu himself. When Beerus Destroys him, he just disappears entirely, there's nothing left behind. We know that's not how a Kaioshin in their own realm should die, when the Elder killed himself to grant Goku life, he just got a halo. If Zamasu didn't go through the same it had to mean that Beerus didn't even leave the soul behind. And then he uses it on a ghost, as if to prove the point. Sidra was only the proper confirmation of something the series had made clear without outright stating. I don't think a Destroyed person can be revived though. We've seen how reviving people works, it brings the soul back to the body (the original pre-Freeza, rebuilt post-Freeza). Without the soul, that's probably it for that person, there's no way whatsoever to come back. Zen-oh is not allowing the Super Dragon Balls to serve as a way to undo his erasing, probably. Dias posted:I'm possibly the only person that would care about it in this thread but hey, DBS is getting a PT-BR dub with the original cast! The movies got one so it's not a MASSIVE surprise but it's cool news nevertheless. Also who knows maybe we could get a DBFZ dub too pleeeease? That's asking for too much. We'll never get game dubs, at least not official ones. Fans took the effort to translate Budokai Tenkaichi 3 to Latin American Spanish and goddamn that was awesome, but I can't imagine it ever happening for the actual games despite the importance of the fandoms here. Saint Seiya's last game got that and it was amazing but it won't ever happen again and it saddens me.
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Blaze Dragon posted:I don't think a Destroyed person can be revived though. We've seen how reviving people works, it brings the soul back to the body (the original pre-Freeza, rebuilt post-Freeza). Without the soul, that's probably it for that person, there's no way whatsoever to come back. Zen-oh is not allowing the Super Dragon Balls to serve as a way to undo his erasing, probably. I actually come down on the other side of this one. Any wish implies any wish. There is a lot of interesting analysis to be done on the narrative inevitibilities of having wish granting in your story.
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Jul 1, 2017 16:16
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Blaze Dragon posted:That's asking for too much. We'll never get game dubs, at least not official ones. Fans took the effort to translate Budokai Tenkaichi 3 to Latin American Spanish and goddamn that was awesome, but I can't imagine it ever happening for the actual games despite the importance of the fandoms here. I think the Naruto games also have Latino/PT-BR dubs, but yeah, DBZ stuff never does localized voices even though people would eat it up in an instant. On the other hand, this IS a new developer and a new game type. On a third hand every time they do a PT-BR localization for a game, it seems to come from a Miami studio, and seeing that our Goku VA has his own studio...
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Jul 1, 2017 16:26
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My buddy is at some anime con in LA and he gets to interview the Dragonball VAs as part of his assignment for work I'm super jealous
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Jul 1, 2017 16:59
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Covok posted:If he makes it through, we might have another storyline with Freeza as the main villain. That just dawned on me and I don't know if I'm okay with that. I actually enjoy Freeza in this arc because it forces him in a role different from his usual one. The biggest flaw of Resurrection F, I feel, is that it just rehashed his evil space dictator role from his original appearance so it all felt very tired and done-already, and if they bring Freeza back as an antagonist again that's probably gonna be the case for a second time. Also yeah, Super seems pretty divisive but that's not really surprising when it has to compete with the childhood nostalgia version of Dragon Ball Z lots of people got in their mind. a cartoon duck fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:People who like Dragonball because it's pretty funny and not all serious fight times tend to like it. People who think DBZ is a bad-rear end fight manga, not as much. Pureauthor posted:People who like debating powerlevels have either dropped the show or weep tears of blood as they watch it. The funny thing is that means this is probably the only place on the internet where people overall like the series. Most other places on the internet that have places to talk about the series are full of the type of people who hate it. But that's probably for the best that those types of people hate it. They already got their sequel. Dragonball GT fits a lot more into the mold of what they want. Especially since the American version skipped all the episodes that were more like the original Dragon Ball.
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Jul 1, 2017 18:34
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Covok posted:The funny thing is that means this is probably the only place on the internet where people overall like the series. Most other places on the internet that have places to talk about the series are full of the type of people who hate it. wait, there were episodes of GT that were more lighthearted or something?? i tried watching it so many times in college, and couldnt get into it, the original Z just held up better and GT felt sooooo sluggish.
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Jul 1, 2017 18:36
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Watching GT in Japanese is tolerable, the US dub is hot garbage.
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Jul 1, 2017 18:38
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Lupus Rufus posted:wait, there were episodes of GT that were more lighthearted or something?? Yeah the first mini arcs that proceed them going to the planet of the robots are more lighthearted like the original Dragonball. Once they go to the planet of the robots then it starts to get like Dragonball Z. Super Saiyan 4 looks like absolute loving garbage and when I was young and looking up the series on the internet because it hadn't come out yet I couldn't tell the fanfiction Super Saiyan forms from the official one. Because it already looks like fanfiction bullshit.
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Jul 1, 2017 18:40
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dr.acula posted:Watching GT in Japanese is tolerable, the US dub is hot garbage. Welcome to The Grand Tour Grand Tour Grand Tour Welcome to The Grand Tour Dragon Ball GT It was really bad rap. Like glow levels of bad rap. You know like that you know that wrestling show from like the 80s.
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Jul 1, 2017 18:41
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dr.acula posted:Watching GT in Japanese is tolerable, the US dub is hot garbage. The Canadian dub is fine and also kept the original music which was pretty solid Even had a theme song which kept the same general melody of the original
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Jul 1, 2017 18:49
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Covok posted:The funny thing is that means this is probably the only place on the internet where people overall like the series. Most other places on the internet that have places to talk about the series are full of the type of people who hate it. Eh, its not that bad really, I often make fun of power level fans on reddit but overall people seem to like the show these days and are excited for this arc at least. I thought it was interesting that everybody apart from me it seemed hated the recent Frieza twist until it actually happened and suddenly nobody heard of Majin Buu and bringing back Frieza was the most awesome thing ever. Whoever's writing the anime seems to know how to give people what they want without them necessarily knowing they wanted it.
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Jul 1, 2017 18:58
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I'm trying to watch GT on Hulu and I'm up to the before Goku goes SS4. It's a real slog of a series. Some humor falls flat, the fighting is a bunch of standing, ki blasts, and speed lines, nothing really interesting. I'm watching dubbed so there dialog is tolerable but they repeat themselves alot. The whole thing just moves so slowly. For an anime without a manga to follow it sure does take its time with everything.
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Jul 1, 2017 18:59
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TheKingofSprings posted:The Canadian dub is fine and also kept the original music which was pretty solid Same with the Latin American dub. The dub is pretty faithful and good and they kept the lighthearted earlier episodes, which in my opinion were really good and the show should have kept that course for a bit longer before going "Nah, it's DBZ time again" Hell, I can't even listen to the GT opening theme without feeling nostalgic and getting watery eyes. edit: Holy poo poo! THIS is the original english GT opening? For the longest time I thought this was it lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Jul 1, 2017 19:06
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lezard_valeth posted:Same with the Latin American dub. The dub is pretty faithful and good and they kept the lighthearted earlier episodes, which in my opinion were really good and the show should have kept that course for a bit longer before going "Nah, it's DBZ time again" Man I never even watched GT and the original Japanese opening gives me goosebumps somehow.
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Jul 1, 2017 19:14
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lezard_valeth posted:edit: Holy poo poo! THIS is the original english GT opening? For the longest time I thought this was it Thanks for sharing that. I'd never seen the english opening, it's hilariously bad. Reminds me of a really, really lovely version of the Aqua Teen Hunger Force intro or something. WTF was with the hysterical CG dragon at the end of it??
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Jul 1, 2017 19:23
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lezard_valeth posted:edit: Holy poo poo! THIS is the original english GT opening? For the longest time I thought this was it
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Jul 1, 2017 19:25
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That second video I think had an alternate dub and lyrics to it?
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Jul 1, 2017 19:25
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If you boil it down to "what if they made an early arc of Dragonball had all the power-ups and space travel of late DBZ" it seems fairly sound. It just turned out really fanfic-y in a way where it just feels... off.
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Jul 1, 2017 19:30
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Jedah posted:Their version of Trunks was terrible, he looked like a teen who just walked out of Abercrombie & Fitch, and was on their way to the country club to take some golf lessons. Nothing about him was badass or cool. I kinda liked the implication that in a future that didn't suck Trunks turned out to be a wimp, kinda like a Future Gohan vs Dad Gohan kind of thing. The only problem, as on par with GT's M.O, the idea was good but the execution was terrible. Most of the non-Goku characters in GT were really bland. GT Gohan was the blandest and lamest of all Gohans. And GT Goten...oh god...GT Goten was supposed to go on an epic journey with his space dad and best friend and got shafted at the last second for definitelynotPan. Goten. The unfavorite son even in non-canon material.
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Jul 1, 2017 19:31
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also it's just not very funny and the characterization is weak as hell and Pan's potential as a character is squandered entirely and the animation is like cardboard btw I just remembered the tournament of power starts tonight! I am so down for some cool punching!!!
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Jul 1, 2017 19:32
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My fan wish is that by the end of Super Goku wishes every universe into U7, which then leads to a better executed remake of GT where they set off to explore all the new worlds, with TruePan in it. Of course by then world hunger and discrimantion would have been eradicated and world peace would have been long instaured, so whose gonna watch anime then?
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Jul 1, 2017 19:39
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lezard_valeth posted:I kinda liked the implication that in a future that didn't suck Trunks turned out to be a wimp, kinda like a Future Gohan vs Dad Gohan kind of thing. The only problem, as on par with GT's M.O, the idea was good but the execution was terrible. Remember when goten, uh. went on a date? And immediately lost?
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Jul 1, 2017 19:42
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Augus posted:Pan's potential as a character is squandered entirely I still haven't got over the fact that she never went super saiyan. Those lovely Goku and Vegeta lookalikes in the future with like .001% saiyan DNA can do it but she can't?
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Jul 1, 2017 19:42
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Tbh I kind of hope the later arcs of Super more or less remake GT. Mine the good ideas from that show but execute them well.
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Jul 1, 2017 19:46
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TheKingofSprings posted:The Canadian dub is fine and also kept the original music which was pretty solid Oh right I forgot about that. I never stuck it out to Baby though.
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Jul 1, 2017 19:50
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Raxivace posted:Tbh I kind of hope the later arcs of Super more or less remake GT. Mine the good ideas from that show but execute them well. I'd also be interested in seeing some alternate transformations, like have other individuals go a better designed ssj4. Like have that be the end result of U6 or something, without the obvious problem.
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Jul 1, 2017 20:36
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lezard_valeth posted:Same with the Latin American dub. The dub is pretty faithful and good and they kept the lighthearted earlier episodes, which in my opinion were really good and the show should have kept that course for a bit longer before going "Nah, it's DBZ time again" GT is an awful series and no dub can ever fix it, but goddammit Mi Corazón Encantado is one of my favourite songs ever and I can listen to it at any point without feeling any sort of shame in knowing where it came from. The original Dan Dan Kokoro Hikareteku is great too, but Mi Corazón Encantado just has the perfect mix of being a genuinely great song and having all that nostalgia. I need to link to it and listen to it now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omTC2DrY1yw What an amazing song for an amazingly terrible series. Raxivace posted:Tbh I kind of hope the later arcs of Super more or less remake GT. Mine the good ideas from that show but execute them well. I don't think there's any chance of it beyond taking GT concepts and redoing them in an entirely different context, Kale-style, but I'd like that as well. Having the Shadow Dragons but actually well-used would be amazing, I still think it's the best idea in all of Dragon Ball...that, sadly, came from GT, so the execution was terrible in every way. Spiderdrake posted:I'd also be interested in seeing some alternate transformations, like have other individuals go a better designed ssj4. Like have that be the end result of U6 or something, without the obvious problem. I can see this happening. We have three forms that seem to have the exact same amount of power but created from different circumstances (Blue for Saiyans who surpass God, Rosé for Gods who took Saiyan bodies and did the same, and Rage for NINGEN who just completely loving lose it in sheer rage) plus Gohan's Ultimate Form was shown to be at around SSB level in his fight against Goku (until he used the Kaio-ken, anyways). I wouldn't be surprised if Super kept going with that, having different forms that aren't neccesarily better but simply born from different situations. Blaze Dragon fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Jul 1, 2017 21:18
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GT is one of those shows filled to the brim with great ideas with terrible executions and it fills me with sadness whenever I remember it. As an overarching, broad plot strokes nothing in GT is bad, all of it is actually pretty loving exciting and sounds good. But the actual context and actions just....just terrible.
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We got "Goku/Vegeta fusion clowns on villain nut defuses at the worst time" already in Super.
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