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Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

lol Trump's flabby body would break if he actually tried to physically assault someone.

That's why I said 'attempt.'

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

No one wants to vote for Zuck. No one on Earth likes Zuck.

Fulchrum.

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Pythagoras a trois
Feb 19, 2004

I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

No one wants to vote for Zuck. No one on Earth likes Zuck.

Enough people with web development skills do for it to be a problem.

He needs to be convinced not to run early.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

empty whippet box posted:

Holy gently caress I need someone to point out the obama tweet popularity thing to his face.

Out of people who have the most twitter followers, @realDonaldTrump doesn't rank in the top ten. @BarackObama is still third as off June 25, 2017. First place is @katyperry. Trump's personal account comes in at 33, after @espn and @BBCBreaking. Not counting organizations, he comes in after @MileyCyrus. When it comes to users, BJO has 91 million twitter followers, Trump still has 32 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_followed_users_on_Twitter

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



actionjackson posted:

He should just rename himself President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho at this point

I'd much rather have Camacho as president.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Young Freud posted:

Out of people who have the most twitter followers, @realDonaldTrump doesn't rank in the top ten. @BarackObama is still third as off June 25, 2017. First place is @katyperry. Trump's personal account comes in at 33, after @espn and @BBCBreaking. Not counting organizations, he comes in after @MileyCyrus. When it comes to users, BJO has 91 million twitter followers, Trump still has 32 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_followed_users_on_Twitter

And wasn't it determined that like fully half of his followers are bots?

ThisIsWhyTrumpWon
Jun 22, 2017

by Smythe
If Obama has posted tweets like that more Americans would supported him.

Human beings are ultimately animals and this forum is full of well educated people with good tastes which make up less than 5% of the actual population

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

And wasn't it determined that like fully half of his followers are bots?

Nothing will ever be done about this because it would necessarily lead to revealing how much of twitter in general is bots (a lot of it)

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

SeANMcBAY posted:

I'd much rather have Camacho as president.

When it first came out, I would have never guessed that movie was far too conservative with it's time frame. Mike Judge will have to pull a Lucas and edit it so that Not Sure is only frozen for like, twenty years tops for it to be anywhere near believable.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Ague Proof posted:

That's why I said 'attempt.'


Fulchrum.
Bartowski! :mad:

waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH

Boogoose posted:

As a non-American, and given what happened last year, could you clarify to me how representative primaries are of the larger voting populace? If you are a registered Dem are you a super fan who will vote for the nomination regardless? I'm not a member of Labour for example, but I work in the public sector, I'm in a union and I don't have a major head injury so I always vote that way even though where I live is fairy safely red, ie a city.
It's fairly representative, in 2016 about 30% of the electorate voted in primaries. It's still biased towards more engaged people but less so than the Labour membership for example, because you don't have to pay dues etc to participate in a primary. In some states you have to have registered as a Democrat (which is free), in others you just show up.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Ague Proof posted:

That's why I said 'attempt.'


Fulchrum.

Deak talks up Zuckerberg to troll the local leftists, because they're vile people.

Spiffster
Oct 7, 2009

I'm good... I Haven't slept for a solid 83 hours, but yeah... I'm good...


Lipstick Apathy

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

No one wants to vote for Zuck. No one on Earth likes Zuck.

Tom from MySpace had more friends then the Zuck...

And it dawned on me that if he somehow did win they would be calling him Zuck the Cuck on TheDonald so it's a mixed bag

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Boogoose posted:

As a non-American, and given what happened last year, could you clarify to me how representative primaries are of the larger voting populace? If you are a registered Dem are you a super fan who will vote for the nomination regardless?

Primary voters aren't necessarily representative of party voters in general, but most people in the US have very strong party identification. There are always some holdouts who will stay home or protest vote if their candidate doesn't win (PUMA being the most high profile example that a lot of people will probably point at), but the vast majority will vote for the person who takes the nomination rather than for the other team.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

ThisIsWhyTrumpWon posted:

If Obama has posted tweets like that more Americans would supported him.

Human beings are ultimately animals and this forum is full of well educated people with good tastes which make up less than 5% of the actual population

you are absolutely insane if you think this is true.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Anyone else worried about things these days becoming the new normal and getting used to it?

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

SeANMcBAY posted:

I'd much rather have Camacho as president.

Camacho sought out and listened to an advisor when he realized he was out of his depth.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Anyone else worried about things these days becoming the new normal and getting used to it?

I do not think I could possibly become used to this, no.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

No one wants to vote for Zuck. No one on Earth likes Zuck.

Please replace "Zuck" with "Trump."

Thank you.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



The reason people voted for Trump was not because he was rich.

Boogoose
Oct 5, 2003

GIVE ME THE CASH !

Paradoxish posted:

Primary voters aren't necessarily representative of party voters in general, but most people in the US have very strong party identification. There are always some holdouts who will stay home or protest vote if their candidate doesn't win (PUMA being the most high profile example that a lot of people will probably point at), but the vast majority will vote for the person who takes the nomination rather than for the other team.

So is there a pattern of primary candidates who just squeaked in going on to do badly or marginally in the national election? I know I could probably get this answer through Google but I'd rather ask people who just know.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Dick Trauma posted:

Please replace "Zuck" with "Trump."

Thank you.

Trump appealed to the id of his base though. What core groups of voters gives a poo poo about Zuckerberg? Steve Jobs maybe could have done something if he hadn't been too stupid to live, but does anyone like Zuck at all? The messaging he's been putting out is extremely boilerplate poo poo that gets nobody excited.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Sinteres posted:

Trump appealed to the id of his base though. What core groups of voters gives a poo poo about Zuckerberg? Steve Jobs maybe, but does anyone like Zuck at all? The messaging he's been putting out is extremely boilerplate poo poo that gets nobody excited.
Yes and this is why I think a comparison is ludicrous. How does he appeal to an average voter?

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/881544236012896256
https://twitter.com/LanaDelRaytheon/status/881255358626451456
https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/881542994368749568
https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/881322784214835202
https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/881559517829509120
https://twitter.com/Hadas_Gold/status/881551179259539456
https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/881527893578461184
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/881503160120029184
https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/881571972416753667
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/881570939246436352
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/881232549812613121
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/881569173154955264
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/881568088096989184
https://twitter.com/politicoalex/status/881563320561618948
https://twitter.com/ABCLiz/status/881563623654440960
https://twitter.com/RonBrownstein/status/881172978309881858
https://twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/881563909265784834
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/881265053785350144
https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/881348181266661376
https://twitter.com/owillis/status/881258744008540161
https://twitter.com/NYTNational/status/881533449462525952

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Anyone else worried about things these days becoming the new normal and getting used to it?

I'm exactly as frightened now as I was in January and the thing that scares me most is not knowing what's going to happen next. I don't think I can be habituated to this because it's so unpredictable.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

No one wants to vote for Zuck. No one on Earth likes Zuck.

I think being endlessly insanely angry about silicon valley/STEM people is a reddit/something awful thing, I think most people don't have a particular opinion and zuckerberg at this point has almost no public face at all. I imagine most people have basically zero opinion on him at this point.

clockworkjoe
May 31, 2000

Rolled a 1 on the random encounter table, didn't you?

FlamingLiberal posted:

The reason people voted for Trump was not because he was rich.

They voted him because he is the avatar of the American Id. Every dark impulse, every vile thought, everything the establishment pretended didn't exist, Trump validated.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

I think being endlessly insanely angry about silicon valley/STEM people is a reddit/something awful thing, I think most people don't have a particular opinion and zuckerberg at this point has almost no public face at all. I imagine most people have basically zero opinion on him at this point.

Some dork standing around in the same t shirt every day to try to pretend to be one of the common people doesn't seem likely to excite crowds. Old people will dismiss him as a millennial idiot anyway. Plus there's an Oscar winning movie about what a sociopath he is.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



clockworkjoe posted:

They voted him because he is the avatar of the American Id. Every dark impulse, every vile thought, everything the establishment pretended didn't exist, Trump validated.
Right, and Zuck is none of that.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

actionjackson posted:

He should just rename himself President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho at this point

Camacho put the smartest man in the world in charge of fixing their crop problem. Trump would have sent Jared.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Air pressure.
Water boiling temp varies with air pressure.
It can boil at 60-70 degrees up mount everest for example.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Gun to my head, would I vote for Zuck (which is basically what a Trump v Zuck election would be)? Yes.

Would I vote for him in the primary? If the rest of the Dem candidates were the usual neoliberal spineless trash... yes.

Would I canvas for Zuck? ...I'd have to do a few weeks of soul searching on that one, but I'd at least be willing to try and talk my family and friends into going out to the polls for him.

I didn't like having to vote for Hillary in the 2016 General either, but I still loving turned out and voted for her. Yeah, I would absolutely elect Mark Zuckerberg President of the United States of America, if that's what it took to get Donald John Trump out of the Oval Office. I really would be that loving desperate, and I'd probably melt down when he lost to Trump's reelection with you guys then, too.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Kerning Chameleon posted:

Would I vote for him in the primary? If the rest of the Dem candidates were the usual neoliberal spineless trash... yes.

What in the world makes you think Zuckerberg is more of a socialist than a typical neolib Democrat? "I'm going to vote for one of the richest men in the world because gently caress supporting the establishment!!!!"

BlueberryCanary
Mar 18, 2016

business hammocks posted:

I'm exactly as frightened now as I was in January and the thing that scares me most is not knowing what's going to happen next. I don't think I can be habituated to this because it's so unpredictable.

This. The fact that Trump is president still scares the poo poo out of me. He is powerful, stupid, impulsive, and emotional. He could, at any moment, decide that deploying nuclear weapons would not be so bad. And even if he never does that, he is still supporting the most stupid, spiteful, and self-serving GOP policies there are. For me, this makes him an existential threat.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Sinteres posted:

What in the world makes you think Zuckerberg is more of a socialist than a typical neolib Democrat?

Nothing at all, but I'd still find him more palatable than the other likely Dem candidates.

...which suddenly makes me understand the 2016 Republican primaries a bit better, gently caress.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

Boogoose posted:

As a non-American, and given what happened last year, could you clarify to me how representative primaries are of the larger voting populace? If you are a registered Dem are you a super fan who will vote for the nomination regardless? I'm not a member of Labour for example, but I work in the public sector, I'm in a union and I don't have a major head injury so I always vote that way even though where I live is fairy safely red, ie a city.

I think it's safe to say most of us do, even if it's not our first choice. Especially now, with what we're up against.

That said, in very safe races, I might occasionally consider voting for a third party. My city is solidly Democrat, with whoever their nomination is basically being a shoo-in for mayor. This can lead to fairly establishment candidates who may not be completely evil (even the woman who resigned after getting caught stealing gift cards from poor children did good things for the city here and there), but may be a bit out of touch or more focused on tourism dollars than on the people who actually live here

Believe it or not, the Green candidate for mayor was actually solid this past year. He wasn't a Jill Stein level shithead, had a very solid platform, did a ton of grass roots stuff, and was charismatic as hell. I didn't think he had a chance of actually defeating the Dem (who I voted for in the Dem primary because she was up against the aforementioned resigned gift card thief, who'd decided to run again, because she was the better of those two. She's just kinda blah, and I had no strong opinion on her until she vetoed the city council's motion for a $15 min wage as one of her first acts as mayor once elected), but I cast my vote for him anyway just because he was the more leftist of the two, and there was never a chance of the Republican getting more than like, 5% of the vote at best. He may not have won, but he got a lot of people motivated, and they're still going strong. I'm hoping it moves the needle a bit leftward. The fact that he even got a percentage in the double digits is encouraging, and I really hope the Dems absorb him somehow

birds
Jun 28, 2008


Zuckerberg will win if he runs. Hell, I had a Trump supporting friend tell me he'd vote for him even if he is a Democrat. He'd vote for Mark Cuban too. America loving worships celebrities and the wealthy.

Don't forget that California loving elected the Terminator as Governor.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Sinteres posted:

Some dork standing around in the same t shirt every day to try to pretend to be one of the common people doesn't seem likely to excite crowds. Old people will dismiss him as a millennial idiot anyway. Plus there's an Oscar winning movie about what a sociopath he is.

Sure, I'm not saying he's great or even that I'd vote for him. Just that somethingawful has way stronger opinions about tech ceos than most people and zuckerberg is largely a blank slate to most people that hasn't really made that many announcements of his opinions on many political topics or made all that many big appearances so most people don't have the same burning hate towards him, or even much of any thought about him at all

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Kerning Chameleon posted:

Nothing at all, but I'd still find him more palatable than the other likely Dem candidates.
I love this idea that robber baron billionaires are looking out for the common man more than Democratic politicians.

Kerning Chameleon posted:

...which suddenly makes me understand the 2016 Republican primaries a bit better, gently caress.
Seems like a good reason to reconsider.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

happyhippy posted:

Air pressure.
Water boiling temp varies with air pressure.
It can boil at 60-70 degrees up mount everest for example.

It's even simpler than that.

A man made the measure, not god. Anders Celsius originally had conceived of the scale being from 100° for freezing and 0° for boiling, but his contemporaries Jean-Pierre Christin and Carolus Linnaeus used a "forward" scale to measure temperature.

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clockworkjoe
May 31, 2000

Rolled a 1 on the random encounter table, didn't you?
Zuck can't jump the line like Trump did. If he ran to replace Feinstein and served at least 1 term as a senator and had a good track record, then he'd have a shot. Like, no one is going to vote for a cipher with no proven track record. He can say whatever he wants, but unless he can point to votes, then it means nothing.

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