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Yes, Lootaz are solid anti vehicle options, including flyers. They will wound 'Talons on a 3 and deal 2 damage each. But he'll only be hitting on sixes... He can only take 1 Klaw in the Stormboyz squad, regardless of size. But it can go up to a mob of 30 if he wanted to (or had the models). Missing with all his Klaw attacks was certainly unfortunate; it's usually where like half the damage comes from against MEQ stuff.
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Felime posted:Falling back: not just for shooty armies What was he gonna do? Fall back so I can shoot him and assault him again? To be fair, that was the only model left on that side of the board, and I basically had 2 chunky units of termagaunts. 1000 point list was: 1 Tervigon 1 Prime w/ swords 25 gaunts w/ 15 devourers 29 gaunts 5 warriors w/ deathspitters, 1 VC 1 Exocrine This is a tough 1000 point list.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Hex Platformer is cheap and fun. I e been looking at Pegasus. The chemical plant one is fantastic, only the scale is a little small.
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LordAba posted:What was he gonna do? Fall back so I can shoot him and assault him again? Oh. I thought you were the nurgle guy complaining about a cupola gaunts. Anything unsupported against gaunts is gonna be tarpitted forever. That said, that list doesn't look too bad. Strong, but only armies with no plan for that sort of thing would have no chance. Of course, I've been running a guard battalion at 1000 so that's what I tell myself so I can sleep at night.
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Quick question regarding building a detachment- and while it seems obvious I'm really not sure anymore. WRT faction keywords, the rule states, that in a restricted detachment all units in that detachment must share a faction keyword. In the R&H list, all units have the [CHAOS] and [RENEGADES AND HERETICS] faction keywords. In Index: Chaos, a Daemon Prince has the faction keywords [CHAOS] and [DAEMONS] So with this info, if I wanted to fill out a battalion, I should be able to add a Daemon Prince within the same detachment, since it fills the [HQ] battlefield role, correct?
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Yes. When codexes eventually hit you'll have to pick between a broad variety from a wide keyword or a specific keyword with more sharply tailored abilities, but until then you have nothing to lose from super broad keywoard choices.
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They share the chaos keyword so you should be clear unless the R&H list specifies a specific unit list.
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OhDearGodNo posted:I e been looking at Pegasus. The chemical plant one is fantastic, only the scale is a little small. I love Pegasus and highly recommend them.
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Pendent posted:Let me preface this by saying I don't know the Ork codex as well as I probably need to given that they seem like a perfectly viable army these days. I also had some issues during this particular game with my opponent not being clear with me on how things were armed or even what he took- on turn three he deepstruck a unit of Kommandos or something that I wasn't even aware were a part of his list since they were sitting with the rest of his models on a completely different table. I digress. 15 Stormboyz is only 120 points, so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't do much. This edition seems to be all about getting massive squads. For example 30 Boyz and a PK Nob will cost 265 points and assuming none die before charging they will have 116 S4 attacks and another 4 S10, AP -3, D3 damage attacks.
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FAQ's for 8th ed are up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/02/warhammer-40000-faq-now-available-july2gw-homepage-post-1/
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Stealth cross-post:The Sex Cannon posted:Finished my first Raven Guard Primaris Marine: This hobby is pretty fun right now.
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What's good for dissolving acrylic paint on a model without dissolving the plastic figure itself?
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The Sex Cannon posted:Stealth cross-post: That black armour is amazing, well done!
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SteelMentor posted:FAQ's for 8th ed are up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/02/warhammer-40000-faq-now-available-july2gw-homepage-post-1/ The Explodes ruling is weird but kinda makes sense with how they're treating embarked models now. Glad to see the clarification of Deep Strike etc. - so many people thought it was 8" charge when clearly it was 'over 9" away.' Also the Berzerker ability is covered now which is good. E: Ironclad launchers have a points cost now, and BA assault squads can take meltas again. Living Image fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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SteelMentor posted:FAQ's for 8th ed are up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/02/warhammer-40000-faq-now-available-july2gw-homepage-post-1/ Thank god, my blood angels get their assault squad melta guns back.
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SteelMentor posted:FAQ's for 8th ed are up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/02/warhammer-40000-faq-now-available-july2gw-homepage-post-1/ I didn't even notice the Lord commisars power sword did 0 damage until now. I bet someone already used this to try and argue that his space Marines didn't take any damage.
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Q. The Ork Battlewagon’s Mobile Fortress ability says the Battlewagon ‘ignores the penalty for moving and firing Heavy weapons’. Its Open-topped ability says that ‘restrictions and modifiers that apply to this model also apply to its passengers’. Does that mean that a unit embarked also ignores the penalty for firing Heavy weapons if the battlewagon has moved? A. No. 
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Nothing about using telelport homers to leave assault, but lots and lots of good stuff aside from that. Making the Baal Predators Flamestorm Cannon heavy instead of Assault really makes the overcharged engines completely pointless now.
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Zark the Damned posted:I noticed something amusing. Skarbrand has a rule which forbids any units within 8" of him from falling back. This means if you pair him up with a bunch of Furies or other flying guys you can make any flyers with a minimum movement automatically crash by charging them and parking him within 8". 40k FAQ posted:Q. If Skarbrand is within 8" of model that can Fly and has a minimum speed (such as a some Flyers), and that unit starts its Movement phase within 1" of an enemy unit, what happens? Is that unit destroyed because it cannot Fall Back and so cannot move its minimum speed? Edit: OK this is bullshit. If you take multiple chainswords you get +1 attack for each, but if you take multiple sets of scything talons you only ever get +1 attack total. At least GSC got some nice improvements though. Nid/GSC/AM detachment armies are legit, and purestrains got errata'd from 18 to 10 points per model xtothez fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Weapon positions relative to their locations on vehicle hulls no longer matter, correct? There's no firing arcs or anything like that, and all vehicle weapons can "see" in every direction in 8th edition, correct? This includes flyers even though they have a fixed direction they have to fly in?
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WhiteWolf123 posted:Weapon positions relative to their locations on vehicle hulls no longer matter, correct? There's no firing arcs or anything like that, and all vehicle weapons can "see" in every direction in 8th edition, correct? This includes flyers even though they have a fixed direction they have to fly in? Yep. Feuer frei.
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Page 76 – Sicarian Infiltrators Change the Attacks value on the Sicarian Infiltrator profile line to read ‘2’. Change the Attacks value on the Sicarian Princeps profile line to read ‘3’. But.. Ruststalkers are also 3/4 attacks? Why did they also not get nerfed? I don't get it whatsoever
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quote:WARHAMMER 40,000 – INDEX: IMPERIUM 2
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Artum posted:drat, guess that was weirdly high. Oh, that's a bummer. I was looking forward to seeing some crazy Inquisition lists
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Stormhawk Interceptors and Stormtalons both have a special rule called Interceptors ...Except the Stormhawk's gives it a bonus against units that fly and the Stormtalon's gives it a bonus against units that cannot fly. I assume the distinction was intentional (one's better at shooting at flyers and one's better at shooting non-flyers) but was the confusion caused by naming both of the rules the same thing also intentional? 
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lol at monstrous rending claws still being free on a Hive Tyrant.
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Xenos 2 FAQ posted:Q. Can I have a Battle-forged army that consists of one Detachment of Genestealer Cults, one Detachment of Astra Militarum (using the Brood Brothers rule) and one Detachment of Tyranids? Not a GSC player, but neat that that has been cleared up: let's see what terrifying combos can be made with that. . .
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Also, still no points modification to Thunder Hammers vs Power Fists on non-character units ...even though they're the same points cost and there's literally no reason whatsoever to take a Power Fist over a Thunder Hammer in the current rules... Sigh.
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:lol at monstrous rending claws still being free on a Hive Tyrant. What you gain in efficiency, you lose horribly in style.
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Miruvor posted:Page 76 Ruststalkers can't deep strike and are missing pistol 3/5 ranged weapons. A basic rustalker is 20 points while an Infiltrator with a power sword, pistol 3 S4, deepstrike, and -1 leadership aura is only 24 points. Stanley Tucheetos fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Pendent posted:Oh, that's a bummer. I was looking forward to seeing some crazy Inquisition lists Still going to build a squad of them because they're a cool thing to have but sad they wont be quite as effective meatshields.
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One thing that I omitted from my pseudo-batrep: I can't tell if this is some echo chamber effect or not, but it really did seem like people were more excited for 8th and 40k in general than I've seen in 6th or 7th. There were two other games going on at the same time at the store, one of which was someone who hadn't played 40k in a while and seemed really jazzed about trying out the new version. Before, you might have seen one game of 40k and the rest would be Malifaux or Dark Age (or, in prior years, Warmahordes), but yesterday everyone was playing, watching, or talking about 40k.
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The Sex Cannon posted:Stealth cross-post: Awesome. I wish my version of this guy was that good:  You motivated me to paint more Raven Guard biglys Were are the transfers from? Are those Forgeworld? Ayn Marx fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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PantsOptional posted:One thing that I omitted from my pseudo-batrep: I can't tell if this is some echo chamber effect or not, but it really did seem like people were more excited for 8th and 40k in general than I've seen in 6th or 7th. There were two other games going on at the same time at the store, one of which was someone who hadn't played 40k in a while and seemed really jazzed about trying out the new version. Before, you might have seen one game of 40k and the rest would be Malifaux or Dark Age (or, in prior years, Warmahordes), but yesterday everyone was playing, watching, or talking about 40k. 8th edition was the first of New Games Workshop TM. I sound sarcastic but im not, unlike previous editions they actually engaged customers and discussed rule changes leading up to it, rather than handling it behind closed doors then dumping it on our laps.
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Different size marines look so terrible next to each other. Simply have no desire to mix the forces right now. Just looks so bad.
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LingcodKilla posted:Different size marines look so terrible next to each other. Simply have no desire to mix the forces right now. Just looks so bad. Couldn't agree more. I really can't imagine squatmarines being played that much when the bigly range has been expanded...
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Only change of real note for Imperial Guard was that the 'take shitloads of command squads' army idea was immediately scotched. I really hope some salty grognard had already bought £500 worth of Scion boxes. Although to be fair, they're still pretty good as ordinary squads + officers and command squads. Also noted you can't make your Officers the 'Militarum Auxilia' Regiment in order to give orders to Ogryns and Ratlings. Can't believe some people would try that after reading in the book that you can't make your officers 'Militarum Tempestus'. Surely the implication was already clear? xtothez posted:Edit: OK this is bullshit. If you take multiple chainswords you get +1 attack for each, but if you take multiple sets of scything talons you only ever get +1 attack total. Saw the Genestealer Cult purestrain change. I would of expected them to be reduced to the same cost as for Tyranids (12 ppm) since the units are AFAIK identical - I wonder they they're even cheaper? Terrifying in either case, Genestealers are loving awesome. Miruvor posted:Page 76 Interestingly, there is no such thing as a 'Sicarian Princeps' - only Infiltrator and Ruststalker Princeps. I guess another FAQ is required (I know it's perfectly clear what they meant, before anyone gets sarcastic). I view this as sweet, sweet justice - played yesterday and watched a squad of 5 infiltrators delete a 10-man IG Infantry squad in a turn of pistol shooting, before running through to murder my warlord and another squad. Artum posted:drat, guess that was weirdly high. The thing is, Inquisitorial Acolytes have got to be close to the worst unit in the game in this case. You're getting Imperial Guardsmen with an inbuilt re-rolling ability, great, but for more than double the cost, with weapons (which they do have great access to) also far more expensive. For a small, tailor-made squad, they sure do have absolutely nothing special about them. You'd think Inquisitors would find the really good imperial henchmen to give them a hand, not the bog-standard rank & file!
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RagnarokAngel posted:8th edition was the first of New Games Workshop TM. I sound sarcastic but im not, unlike previous editions they actually engaged customers and discussed rule changes leading up to it, rather than handling it behind closed doors then dumping it on our laps. I mean poo poo, it's been two weeks or something and we already have a really solid FAQ. Things are looking really promising for 8th
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Ayn Marx posted:Couldn't agree more. I really can't imagine squatmarines being played that much when the bigly range has been expanded... I'm more irritated that GW is trying to down play this than just come out and say the new range is replacing the old range deal with it and enjoy better models. . It's already the most popular range with so many sub-ranges. Yes, they needed an update and yes the models are great. This whole parallel development is so dishonest.
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LingcodKilla posted:Different size marines look so terrible next to each other. Simply have no desire to mix the forces right now. Just looks so bad. LingcodKilla posted:I'm more irritated that GW is trying to down play this than just come out and say the new range is replacing the old range deal with it and enjoy better models. . It's already the most popular range with so many sub-ranges. Yes, they needed an update and yes the models are great. This whole parallel development is so dishonest. You are weirdly obsessed by this.
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