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https://twitter.com/Topshelf_TSSM/status/881675853494669313 jesus
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Jul 3, 2017 01:56
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Zajac/Hall/Henrique/Hischier/Johansson/Palmieri is a pretty nice top six if Hisch comes out swinging.
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Jul 3, 2017 01:57
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Koopa Kid posted:I understand that, what I'm referencing is the people looking at the speculation over McDavid's deal and saying the Leafs need to gear up too. The way pundits are talking you'd think Matthews is getting $12M and Nylander/Marner are gonna get Toews/Kane money and I don't think that'll happen. I agree it's unlikely those three turn out to be in that stratosphere. Even Toews and Kane didn't get there until their 3rd contracts. McDavid is a unique case and a bad comparable for other RFAs. With that said, it seems ludicrous to me to start spending big money on older veterans at this point. The Leafs rebuild isn't over, not by a long shot. Hand waving away bad contracts because it doesn't matter now is what they used to do and it got them in trouble each time. It'll matter one day, maybe as early as next year. One unexpectedly successful season on the strength of a half dozen great rookie performances isn't a trend. They're just as likely to come crashing back down next year and then big expensive free agents will seem like a huge waste of cap space that could be better leveraged as the team had been doing up to this point. The Avs thought they were ready to compete a few years ago and brought in Iginla and now the team is a mess. They pivoted too soon. With the benefit of hindsight that much is obvious. I'm not saying this is an identical set of circumstances, but you can't ignore the parallels. Big money free agents can supplement an established core looking to make the next step. They can be a giant boat anchor for teams not there yet. I think the Leafs are very much in the latter camp.
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Jul 3, 2017 02:01
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Stupid money, even for a one year deal. Sharks gonna have issues this year.
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Jul 3, 2017 02:03
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lol the Capitals could have just exposed Johansson in the expansion draft and protected Schmidt. Now they are both gone. What a dreadful offseason for the Capitals and MacLellan.
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Top Shelf Hockey: Happy Birthday Jumbo! Jumbo: OOOOOKAY PARDNER *rotates 180 degrees and rides mower off into horizon*
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Jul 3, 2017 02:07
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That's a lotta money for a broken old man.
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Jul 3, 2017 02:10
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Good soup! posted:Top Shelf Hockey: Happy Birthday Jumbo! The entirety of Thornton's retirement plan involves riding that mower around in a big field from sun up to sun sun down smiling to himself. 
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Jul 3, 2017 02:10
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 I mean, I get that it's one year, but $8 mil? Holy poo poo.
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ThinkTank posted:The entirety of Thornton's retirement plan involves riding that mower around in a big field from sun up to sun sun down smiling to himself. I hope they let him ride it into the stadium and he just stands up from it once he reaches the ice in full gear "my feet will never touch the dirt again"
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Jul 3, 2017 02:18
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Kilza posted:
$8 mil to invite the modern Paul Bunyan to play hockey, I mean, I'd say that's a bargain
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Jul 3, 2017 02:19
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Koopa Kid posted:There's still lots of RFA years too, I agree with your long-term estimate but I can see a bridge deal or two potentially, especially if anyone has a rough year or injuries happen. Yeah I think Nylander is gonna get a bridge deal. Not so sure about Matthews and Marner though. I could see them taking 9x8 or something if the Leafs go in that direction. So 25 is probably high in year 3. I'm crazy high on Marner though. He's gonna win an Art Ross when McDavid has an off year.
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Jul 3, 2017 02:22
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Thats Brent Burns, you cant fool me
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Thats Brent Burns, you cant fool me Too many teeth
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ThinkTank posted:The entirety of Thornton's retirement plan involves riding that mower around in a big field from sun up to sun sun down smiling to himself. cock in hand
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Thats Brent Burns, you cant fool me You must be confused by the beard and the paycheck. You can tell them apart by the smile, Joe has one because he just got paaaaaaaaid. Burns doesn't because the sharks are giving away cap space to injured old men.
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Jul 3, 2017 03:16
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https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/881618093272735744 hayley wickenheiser guest coaching at the oilers prospect camp
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Jul 3, 2017 03:25
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Thorton and I have the same beard colouration and he's only 7 years older than me. =/
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Stretch Marx posted:Thorton and I have the same beard colouration and he's only 7 years older than me. =/ You're a Leafs fan, it's understandable
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I started getting silver hairs on my chin when I was 35, life comes at you fast.
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ThinkTank posted:One unexpectedly successful season on the strength of a half dozen great rookie performances isn't a trend. They're just as likely to come crashing back down next year and then big expensive free agents will seem like a huge waste of cap space that could be better leveraged as the team had been doing up to this point. There's definitely a chance they take a step back but I don't think it's the same situation as the Avs had: Goals came from good possession #s rather than crazy shooting percentages. They went 1-8 in the shootout last year; I will  right now that they gain more than 1 Bettman Point in 2017-2018. With the amount of talent that they've got upfront, I don't think it's unreasonable to imagine something closer to 50% in the coinflip.The Leafs' luck last season had more to do with the team staying healthy and Tampa having injury problems than with the team actually overachieving. There's a good chance that they get some injuries next season, but they've added Marleau on top of basically the exact same team so you can think of him as a highly skilled insurance policy if Marner or JVR miss some time with an injury, or just another skilled winger that pushes guys like Hyman/Komarov down (and maybe Matt Martin to the press box? Is that too much wishful thinking?) if they luck out on injuries again. I know this is mostly naive Leafs fan homerism, but I think the Leafs' talent is closer to Dallas than Colorado. Marleau is old as gently caress but he didn't cost us anything and the team is basically one Patrick Marleau better than it was last year (if Hainsey for Hunlak is a wash) ps please don't sign and play Polak, Leafs.
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Jul 3, 2017 04:05
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Nah this deal puts the Leafs over the cap so a salary dump transaction will take place between now and preseason most likely.
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Powershift posted:You must be confused by the beard and the paycheck. Burns is making $8mil a year until he's 40 too, pretty sure he's just as happy
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Drunk Canuck posted:Nah this deal puts the Leafs over the cap so a salary dump transaction will take place between now and preseason most likely. LTIR
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Pretty good deal by Ray. They still badly need another top 4 d-man (and maybe one more winger), but that's a step forward. re: Shattenkirk quote:Shero said any reports that the Devils offered Shattenkirk a seven-year deal – or that Shattenkirk ever asked the Devils for a maximum seven-year deal – are incorrect. and Kovalchuk: quote:9. The Ilya Kovalchuk update: “Realistically, on the process, you should probably ask Jay Grossman (Kovalchuk’s U.S.-based agent). As to where Kovy wants to end up (playing, KHL or NHL) or any sort of deadline he might be facing there, it certainly falls to Kovy and Jay. Outside of that, I probably wouldn’t want to comment. I don’t think this stretches on for real long. I’ll have more conversations with Jay Grossman in the next day, the next couple of days.” also those picks were from the Marc Savard and Lou deals lol T-Bone fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Jul 3, 2017 05:11
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ThinkTank posted:The Avs thought they were ready to compete a few years ago and brought in Iginla and now the team is a mess. They pivoted too soon. With the benefit of hindsight that much is obvious. I'm not saying this is an identical set of circumstances, but you can't ignore the parallels. The avs were a lovely possession time run by a fuckwit coach that got lucky with shooting percentages and goaltending. They had all the warning signs of a team playing way above their heads and they did nothing to address it beyond bringing in the godawful danny briere and the good offensively, poo poo defensively Iginla. All the while they ran the same poo poo forward depth and defense and couldn't hack it. The Leafs this year are a good possession team run by a competent coach with an average PDO. There's no reason to assume they're going to come crashing back to earth. They also have a wealth of prospects coming to shore up the roster over the next couple years. Their rebuild is entering the stage where they should start building towards a contender, Marleau on a short term contract is an easy way to try and accelerate that, especially if he ends up in Zach Hyman's spot. They're also likely ditching Ben Smith playing any minutes with the much better Moore coming in. Polak and Hunwick are gone replaced by the somewhat more competent Hainsey and Dermott or Marincin.
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Drunk Canuck posted:LTIR doesn't come into effect until the second day of the season. That's not true. You can have players on LTIR before the season starts and be exceeding the cap on day one. Look at 50.10 (d) illustration 4 in the CBA, it discusses putting a player on LTIR prior to opening day.
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not necessarily NHL-related, but they just wrapped up a charity game in buffalo that lasted 11 straight days. the rosters (40-ish guys total) were filled with lots of relative nobodies outside of michael peca, but there were a bunch of older guys with NCAA and junior experience. final score ended up being 1715 - 1690, and they raised just north of a million dollars for cancer research. it's also gone on record as the longest hockey game ever played http://www.11daypowerplay.com/about/
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These super simple game score charts are fun. https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/880096414424084480 https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/881658017338593280 He should add a line for salary comps.
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He looks good in certain narrow views. He probably is better than we think of him because his gaffs are so glaring in the eye test. (Slow as hell, pushes people into his goalie, takes bad penalties.) The bottom line is that he's crazy expensive for a 3rd pairing D, which is a much bigger drag on the Caps than his on-ice play. After the last 10 days or so I'm not sure that GMBM is tuned in to that aspect as well as I'd thought, either. On The Fly defensemen corsi leaders: https://twitter.com/dellowhockey/status/880148972349861889
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https://twitter.com/ikhurshudyan/status/881867909932384260 https://twitter.com/renlavoietva/status/881904464684298240 Yay for Hemsky.
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