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WampaLord posted:I think he actually enjoyed A New Hope, and then the Holiday Special killed all joy he could have had going forward. He had a meltdown on the set of Empire after news that their second unit director and good friend had died of meningitis and proceeded to tear apart the falcon cockpit set with a hacksaw.
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Blade runner is insanely overrated, by nerds only, because only nerds care about the movie or talk about it It was also insanely beautiful and cool looking
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Blade Runner is absolutely outstanding in some areas and deeply flawed in other areas. In conclusion, Blade Runner is a land of contrasts
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Jul 3, 2017 20:38
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it's sad that ridley scott turned out to be george lucas the sequel.
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https://twitter.com/Sgtzima/status/881925409490837504 https://twitter.com/JayBauman1/status/881926400030191617
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WampaLord posted:Fun fact, Rambo III was dedicated to the Taliban. The Taliban didn't fight the Russians. This is because the Taliban didn't exist in the 80s. Taliban didn't really become a thing until the mid 90s ('94 is when they enter the scene for real if I remember correctly). Taliban formed out of Pashtun youths who grew up as refugees in the Afghan-Pakistan border region, where many were educated in schools and madrassas run by Salafist organizations from Saudi Arabia. After the Russians left in '89 the various Mujahideen groups variously fought against each other and what remained of the communist government (which rebranded itself as an Islamic republic), with various groups that were to become the Northern Alliance supported by Iran and Turkey and other groups (many of them Pashtun Islamist groups such as Hekmatayr's Hezb-e Islami) supported by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Enter the Taliban in '94 which swept a number of other groups before them and variously allied with or absorbed other Islamist groups until they had control over much of the country in '96, though the Northern Alliance still held out until the US invasion in 2001 when they provided much of the ground strength on the Coalition side (air support being what allowed them to turn the tide). This is the wrong thread for this and Rambo III is stupid, but it is not dedicated to the motherfucking Taliban.
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I've tried to watch blade runner like 5 times in the past and all that's ever happened is I've ended up taking the most peaceful, restful naps I've ever had. Still never seen the ending, or really any further than about 45 minutes in. I'm glad my internet friend Jay agrees with me that this film is a kind of cinematic blanket and cup of warm milk.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:46
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Beavis and Butthead do America is hilarious.  FuturePastNow posted:It is but only if you find a version of it that still has the music video segments. Those were the best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJx9afYF3dg
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I'm convinced that people who thought Arrival was "moving" have never read a full-length sci-fi novel.
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the sparrow is a much more moving sci-fi story and it's a shame it'll never be adapted. it also makes sense.
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communism bitch posted:I've tried to watch blade runner like 5 times in the past and all that's ever happened is I've ended up taking the most peaceful, restful naps I've ever had. Still never seen the ending, or really any further than about 45 minutes in. It's one of those movies where I know I've seen it in full several times, but couldn't describe it beyond the well known scenes. Like going "[classic well regarded movie] is just so boring" is hella cliche and lame, but it fits Blade Runner perfectly.
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WampaLord posted:Fun fact, Rambo III was dedicated to the Taliban. the taliban and the mujahideen are different groups made up of 99.9% different people. In fact, they fought each other occasionally as the mujahideen had many foreign members and were not a wahhabist sect. If you're american you should know that since you armed one and declared war on the other. But maybe you're a retard? so sorry if so
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Modest Mao posted:the taliban and the mujahideen are different groups made up of 99.9% different people. In fact, they fought each other occasionally as the mujahideen had many foreign members and were not a wahhabist sect.
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Groovelord Neato posted:nobody remembers the northern alliance... Where are your rebel friends now!?
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Groovelord Neato posted:nobody remembers the northern alliance... People also apparently can't remember Blade Runner.
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If you were a kid and caught blade runner on cable randomly, back before every movie and tv show ever was available to stream 24/7, the spooky sci fi future dreamy stuff would seem pretty great
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That anecdote about a cable station playing blade runner on New Year's in Canada sounds familiar but I can't remember what station it was. Perhaps it was an ontario-only one. Anyone remember it?
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The Archaic posted:Harrison Ford does not deserve the fan adoration he gets because it's clear he hates working and getting paid to do the job he was hired to do. I think Indiana Jones is the only role he truly enjoyed. Harrison Ford loves Blade Runner (or maybe *loved*, thanks to Scott's dumb tinkering) and a lot of the roles he has done. It's only really Star Wars that he hates, and I'm fine with that.
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priznat posted:That anecdote about a cable station playing blade runner on New Year's in Canada sounds familiar but I can't remember what station it was. Perhaps it was an ontario-only one. Anyone remember it? CityTV, the station that Videodrome was based on. They weren't cable, just regular old broadcast TV and they showed softcore porn late at night since the 70's.
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Randarkman posted:The Taliban didn't fight the Russians. This is because the Taliban didn't exist in the 80s. Taliban didn't really become a thing until the mid 90s ('94 is when they enter the scene for real if I remember correctly). Taliban formed out of Pashtun youths who grew up as refugees in the Afghan-Pakistan border region, where many were educated in schools and madrassas run by Salafist organizations from Saudi Arabia. After the Russians left in '89 the various Mujahideen groups variously fought against each other and what remained of the communist government (which rebranded itself as an Islamic republic), with various groups that were to become the Northern Alliance supported by Iran and Turkey and other groups (many of them Pashtun Islamist groups such as Hekmatayr's Hezb-e Islami) supported by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Enter the Taliban in '94 which swept a number of other groups before them and variously allied with or absorbed other Islamist groups until they had control over much of the country in '96, though the Northern Alliance still held out until the US invasion in 2001 when they provided much of the ground strength on the Coalition side (air support being what allowed them to turn the tide). oh poo poo yeah
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As long as Osama Bin Laden wasn't a member of Diamond Dogs
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Groovelord Neato posted:nobody remembers the northern alliance... I remembered them before they were cool.
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Stink Billyums posted:CityTV, the station that Videodrome was based on. Ah ok, I grew up on the west coast and CityTV didn't come out this way til a decade ago or so. Had to get Showcase on cable for the softcore stuff here!
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Are the replicants robots or are they clones? If they're robots why do they have to look so human? Which replicants have four year lifespans? Is it only the new replicants? Is Decker only three years old? Why wouldn't they make the replicants look different so people could tell them apart? Why do they have to have psychological testing for you to be able to tell? Do the replicants know they aren't human? They gave them fake memories but what if they try to look into their fake memories? Wouldn't it be really obvious? Wouldn't they know they aren't human since they have superhuman strength? Do they work and live with regular humans or do they just assume everyone has super human strength? Why do they let the replicants think they're human? That's loving cruel 
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Groovelord Neato posted:that's darryl hannah. Don't ever say this poo poo in CineD because they'll loving dogpile you They'll defend any dumb totally out of left field theory and cry "death of the author" until it's something really loving stupid that the insane director says then they're like "well yeah, it's true because the director says it is!"
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Why though? Like if you're gonna have an android underclass doing all the lovely and dangerous jobs, at least make it clear to everyone what's going on. Giving them fake memories is just being a dick. If I was designing my own scifi dystopia, the robot workers would not only not look like humans, but would also have their faces replaced with hello.jpg just for the sake of clarity. No ambiguity allowed, if you got a gaping anus face you're working at the turd factory 24/7. Some rich gently caress wants to get all metaphorical jesus and feel bad for the mindless automaton serving them coffee, they better hire an illegal immigrant or learn to love the goatman.
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i've got a poor memory, was jay saying that the voiceovers were added to home releases...? because that was how it came out in theatres according to wiki. i've only seen a vhs of the director's cut myself
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only the newest replicants like sean young have memories and aren't aware they're replicants. the nexus-6 replicants deckard is hunting in the movie are all aware of what they are.
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Relin posted:i've got a poor memory, was jay saying that the voiceovers were added to home releases...? because that was how it came out in theatres according to wiki. i've only seen a vhs of the director's cut myself No the theatrical cut is the one with the voiceovers. I guess I'm lucky that the first time I saw Blade Runner was a director's cut DVD because goddamn, those voiceovers would've ruined the movie for me. I think the theatrical cut is included in the complete edition on blu-ray.
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The definitive edition that came out about eight years ago in DVD and bluray has like 4 different cuts. It's a fascinating study in cinematic meddling. The documentaries that come with it, particularly the 3hr Dangerous Days, are amazing.
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all the startling revelations of how much of a crazy doddering old man Ridley Scott is, plus him being an executive producer who got into with Ford again about Deckerd thirty years later, and how awful Covenant was... I'm setting my bar pretty low for Blade Runner 2049. poor Denis, you had such an impeccable track record... 
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Even if Deckard is a replicant, how does a random mook know what his dreams are? Why does Deckard dreaming about unicorns mean he's a replicant? poo poo, I had a dream about the Jersey Devil does that mean I'm an android? Aw gently caress the night janitor left an oragami crane on my keyboard guess I'm a feckin robot
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HIJK posted:Even if Deckard is a replicant, how does a random mook know what his dreams are? Why does Deckard dreaming about unicorns mean he's a replicant? poo poo, I had a dream about the Jersey Devil does that mean I'm an android? Aw gently caress the night janitor left an oragami crane on my keyboard guess I'm a feckin robot Cause decker is a grown man and only weirdos dream of unicorns
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Unless you dream of electric sheep I think you're fine.
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I tried to watch Blade Runner once. It was cool to see a young Commander Adama but watching him drive around and talk for hours was too boring and I ended up turning it off. I have no idea which cut it was, but it wasn't the voiceover one, holy poo poo that sounds bad.Jonas Albrecht posted:Harrison Ford loves Blade Runner (or maybe *loved*, thanks to Scott's dumb tinkering) and a lot of the roles he has done. It's only really Star Wars that he hates, and I'm fine with that. You could really see the care and attention to detail he put into such movies as Ender's Game. Or that movie where he crashes his plane into the airport. Wait that's not a movie. Harrison Ford should do a movie where he just travels around the country and beats up Star Wars nerds, Jay and Bob style. He might actually give a poo poo about the filming of that one.
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Not that I agree with it, but I think Gaff is supposed to be in on the experiment that's going on, whatever it is. It's silly. "We're no more human than our creations" is a much better theme (or "being human doesn't make us better.") Every element of the film talks about that.
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