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loquacius posted:I'm going to ask a question that a whole lot of Clintonites have asked before, because apparently I don't know the answer either compassionate conservatism
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Venom Snake posted:The democratic party was at the height of its power when it was the farthest left it ever was and would be. Like more powerful than the current GOP + a president who didn't have brain holes. Anyone who thinks centrism hasn't totally crippled the democratic partys ability to gain power has brain problems. When was this?
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Jul 3, 2017 21:05
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loquacius posted:I'm going to ask a question that a whole lot of Clintonites have asked before, because apparently I don't know the answer either it means a return to FDR style social safety nets, public spending on things for the common good such as infrastructure, redistribution of weath and TR style monopoly busting.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:06
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loquacius posted:I'm going to ask a question that a whole lot of Clintonites have asked before, because apparently I don't know the answer either 
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Jul 3, 2017 21:08
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loquacius posted:I'm going to ask a question that a whole lot of Clintonites have asked before, because apparently I don't know the answer either well about a year ago it meant "actually left" but now corporatists have taken it to pretend they're actually on the left
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Jul 3, 2017 21:08
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logikv9 posted:if the voters in Iowa and NH are that brain-damaged to vote for Zuckerberg then it's pretty clear that democracy... was a mistake WOW tough 2 imagine voters in iowa and new hampshire picking an absolute dumbfuck dirtbag shitheap. would be a truly shocking turn
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Jul 3, 2017 21:11
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loquacius posted:I'm going to ask a question that a whole lot of Clintonites have asked before, because apparently I don't know the answer either It hasn't had a well-defined meaning in 70 years.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:11
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On the campaign trail in 2019 Clinton will tell a crowd she takes a backseat to no one when it comes to being a leftist.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:17
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Jeb! Repetition posted:It hasn't had a well-defined meaning in 70 years. The notion of "progress" has no meaning in the absence of an ideological vision. Democrats are taking reactionary positions now because they already think we're in the end of history, and nothing could be better than the framework they already established in the 90s.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:19
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I think America is doing fine .. the flowers still smell pretty, the birds sing etc. my motto: be kind to thy neighbor
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Jul 3, 2017 21:21
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Rand alPaul posted:On the campaign trail in 2019 Clinton will tell a crowd she takes a backseat to no one when it comes to being a leftist. By the time the 2020 primaries actually begin nothing will make you persona non grata more quickly in certain circles than attempting to claim that Hillary Clinton is not a Marxist
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Jul 3, 2017 21:23
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all progress is towards utopia
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Jul 3, 2017 21:24
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I.N.R.I posted:I think America is doing fine .. the flowers still smell pretty, the birds sing etc. my motto: be kind to thy neighbor just wait, soon the bees will all die and that'll put a stop to this crap
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Jul 3, 2017 21:24
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The notion of "progress" has no meaning in the absence of an ideological vision. Democrats are taking reactionary positions now because they already think we're in the end of history, and nothing could be better than the framework they already established in the 90s. That's true.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:25
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Democrats are taking reactionary positions now because they already think we're in the end of history, and nothing could be better than the framework they already established in the 90s. Yeah, how about that "End of History" stuff huh guys?
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Jul 3, 2017 21:34
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Jeb! Repetition posted:It hasn't had a well-defined meaning in 70 years. eh even as recently as 2008 there was some honest mainstream representation of it as the policies which etalian said. like in the 08 primary even the baddest of bad dems were frank that obama was more progressive than hillary, but neither were very progressive on the historical dem spectrum (but of course this was necessary pragmatic because w was so far right recession overton window adults in the room etc) that frankness disappeared in the 12 election when obama had lost all progressive policy trappings which shouldve prepared me for hillary goddamn clinton of all people being packaged and sold as a progressive but drat was it still shocking. by then progressive just meant correct as defined by what is currently in the interests of team dnc
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Jul 3, 2017 21:34
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"progressive" has looped back around and it's now all about eugenics and reordering europe again
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The Nastier Nate posted:Democratic voters are stalwart progressives! thats not even remotely accurate, it appears that you have a poor grasp of these events
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Joementum posted:"progressive" has looped back around and it's now all about eugenics and reordering europe again horseshoe theory at work
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Jul 3, 2017 21:41
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a goldman sachs exec won nj because he poured a shitload of money into the election while everyone else were nobodies not endorsed by anyone in the party in a state where half of the state and local taxes are paid via goldman sachs execs owning houses also three progressives ran against one centrist
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Jul 3, 2017 21:42
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my understanding is that progressive now means willing to compromise on abortion rights
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Jul 3, 2017 21:43
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Joementum posted:"progressive" has looped back around and it's now all about eugenics and reordering europe again 
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New Jersey direct aggressive behavior is occasionally amazing https://twitter.com/_Hetrick/status/881968870009044992
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The Nastier Nate posted:To add to that, we need to stop measuring things like the president's "approval ratings". It's dumb as poo poo and doesn't mean anything, and bad dems are parading it around like a 35% approval is guaranteed to win them all the mid term races on a silver platter. i absolutely hate this poo poo. how does anyone pretend that asking "do you think the president is doing a good job" gives any sort of idea as to what people think. it's a perfect framing device to obscure any actual understanding or opinions on the part of citizens and pretends the only possible opinions are republican and democrat
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Jul 3, 2017 21:52
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Shear Modulus posted:i absolutely hate this poo poo. how does anyone pretend that asking "do you think the president is doing a good job" gives any sort of idea as to what people think. it's a perfect framing device to obscure any actual understanding or opinions on the part of citizens and pretends the only possible opinions are republican and democrat it also leads to poo poo like "obama has high approval ratings, so we should run on preserving his legacy" and "obama has high approval ratings, ergo he's a key part of retaking power"
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Jul 3, 2017 21:54
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radical meme posted:When was this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjSTQwamo8M
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Jul 3, 2017 21:56
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Oh Snapple! posted:it also leads to poo poo like "obama has high approval ratings, so we should run on preserving his legacy" and "obama has high approval ratings, ergo he's a key part of retaking power" Obama has low ratings, let's abandon our own platform and lose
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Jul 3, 2017 21:58
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obama used his popularity to endorse a guy who's currently trying to slash worker rights. also said guy sighs wistfully when thinking about the age of kings thanks obama
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Jul 3, 2017 22:04
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quote:They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob. 
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Jul 3, 2017 22:10
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even his pragmatic plans are farther left than hillary's campaign promises i wonder if hillary would've pulled a macron upon entering office. would she be bipartisanly working on a federal RTW? only baddems know how far-right they'll go
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Jul 3, 2017 22:18
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Condiv posted:even his pragmatic plans are farther left than hillary's campaign promises didnt you read the twitter responses? this is exactly mi abuelas healthcare plan that bernie is stealing, once again a man taking credit for the work of a woman, also hes coming around to it now because hes just realized how complicated healthcare is, being a political neophyte who lacks hillary's many decades of policy experience
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Jul 3, 2017 22:22
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Bernie's always been willing to compromise. After all, he voted for Obamacare, unlike Hillary.
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Jul 3, 2017 22:24
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Why do they call it "Right to Work"?
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Jul 3, 2017 22:27
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Did you know fdr had money and used money? Sounds like you are a hypocrite now 
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punk rebel ecks posted:Why do they call it "Right to Work"? because its cynically constructed title designed to invoke American values
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Jul 3, 2017 22:28
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Hillary Clinton being elected president. More 👏 black 👏 men 👏 in 👏 the 👏 white 👏 house 👏 Rand alPaul posted:This shithead was just on MSNBC saying that the Democrats are going to win in 2020 because there are enough moderate Republicans "who lost respect for Trump" to vote Democrat. it's like Lucy and the football, except the dems are Lucy and the rest of us are charlie brown
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Jul 3, 2017 22:39
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who would pigpen be in this analogy
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UHD posted:who would pigpen be in this analogy steve bannon
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