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Hello I find it hilarious that Ale$ Hem$ky is a Hab now.
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Jul 3, 2017 18:49
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There may be some Shaw at C here and there. It's not significantly different than last season, although there's a defintive improvement in Steve Ott no longer being there. There used to be Desharnais and Eller to take some middling roles, Danault is doing alright (although not 1C alright). Then the rest is a never-ending rotation of AHLers whenever there are injuries.
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Jul 3, 2017 18:49
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:So the Devils still really need to add another winger to play in the top nine. As of now, lines look something like this: They could pick up Yakupov for a song and have a line made up entirely of #1 picks. They still won't make the playoffs, but whatever.
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Jul 3, 2017 18:59
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I understand the skepticism around any team like the Leafs that comes up from worst in the league to the playoffs suddenly, but by most metrics people use to judge repeatability the Leafs are either fine or could have been higher in the standings. Nobody put up unreasonable shooting percentages, they're not relying on a goalie putting up a career season, they're a positive possession team, their one-goal win % was actually poor. They could absolutely have a down year next year because it's sports and that happens, and I'm not expecting a huge improvement by any means, but I don't think there's a huge risk in believing in this core moving forward.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:00
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MononcQc posted:There may be some Shaw at C here and there. It's not significantly different than last season, although there's a defintive improvement in Steve Ott no longer being there. Depth at wing is ok, goalie is *super* ok, defense is better than mediocre as long as Weber continues to be a monster (and unless Alzner turns out to be a fart) but that center depth will make poo poo difficult.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:02
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Drunk Canuck posted:Hello I find it hilarious that Ale$ Hem$ky is a Hab now. Ales Hemsky loving rules buzz
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Jul 3, 2017 19:08
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Ligur posted:Depth at wing is ok, goalie is *super* ok, defense is better than mediocre as long as Weber continues to be a monster (and unless Alzner turns out to be a fart) but that center depth will make poo poo difficult. Montreal has been after a good 1C as long as I can remember, and have never managed to get any. The most significant ones they've had in recent memory were: Desharnais, Plekanek, Scott Gomez, Saku Koivu, and pre-coke Mike Ribeiro. You had some they were hopeful for like Higgins and so on, but by then I don't think I can actually remember watching Hockey enough to find anyone.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:11
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and at 1m for 1 year I could not care less. At best they can get another Radulov-like resurgence and at worst another Semin and then he'd be gone by December.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:11
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Good god, the defence is going to be horrible.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:15
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MononcQc posted:There may be some Shaw at C here and there. It's not significantly different than last season, although there's a defintive improvement in Steve Ott no longer being there. That's just some seriously center depth. Granted, I've been spoiled by several years of having four #1/2 centers in our top-6, but still. Yeesh.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:24
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MononcQc posted:Montreal has been after a good 1C as long as I can remember, and have never managed to get any. The most significant ones they've had in recent memory were: Desharnais, Plekanek, Scott Gomez, Saku Koivu, and pre-coke Mike Ribeiro. You had some they were hopeful for like Higgins and so on, but by then I don't think I can actually remember watching Hockey enough to find anyone. *raises from grave* Hey I remember when they had Pierre Turgeon, Vincent Damphousse and Saku motherfucking Koivu at the same time \,,/ :headbang: That was, uhh, yes, a while ago...
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Jul 3, 2017 19:28
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Ligur posted:*raises from grave* Turgeon left in 1996 I think. That's the last time they had good center depth from what I can understand, but I was 8 years old at the time and didn't really know what was going on.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:30
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https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/karl-alzner-leaves-humiliating-letter-to-washington-fans-teammates/?ref=David Lol, and just more lol that Montreal is the solution to going to a "winning" team.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:30
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I think Backstrom, Kuznetsov, Ovechkin, and Holtby is still enough to get that team into the playoffs but this off season the Caps have lost two top nine forwards and three top six defensemen. That's rough.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:35
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yellowcar posted:Good god, the defence is going to be horrible. Aww, come on - Bergevin has doubled down on big, tough stay-at-home defensemen that can really throw a body check! And that'll be good, because Montreal is never, ever going to get the puck out of their own zone.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:36
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In what universe does a player look at Montreal and think, "Yes, that's a team bent on winning."Ginette Reno posted:I think Backstrom, Kuznetsov, Ovechkin, and Holtby is still enough to get that team into the playoffs but this off season the Caps have lost two top nine forwards and three top six defensemen. That's rough. Even with all the players the Caps have lost this Summer, it's hard to see them performing worse than Montreal.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:37
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Apparently JR has talked to five different teams about trading for a 3c, so I guess that's the route he's more likely to go than signing a UFA. He must be pretty confident Cullen is coming back because I've heard nothing about them looking for a 4c. Habibi posted:In what universe does a player look at Montreal and think, "Yes, that's a team bent on winning." I don't think desire to win is the problem there it's uh the blueprint.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:38
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Ginette Reno posted:He must be pretty confident Cullen is coming back because I've heard nothing about them looking for a 4c. could also just rely on tweener depth for 4C. I wonder who will wind up as the 3C, haven't really given any thought to who we could get via trade (and what we'd have to give up). Hopefully we can find another undervalued guy that has decent IQ and unimpressive production stats. What's Lee Stempniak up to these days?
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Jul 3, 2017 19:47
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Duckman2008 posted:https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/karl-alzner-leaves-humiliating-letter-to-washington-fans-teammates/?ref=David You chose poorly, Karl.
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Jul 3, 2017 19:53
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Ginette Reno posted:I don't think desire to win is the problem there it's uh the blueprint. I'm sure the players want to win. But I look at that roster and at the moves management has made in the last five years and I get real dubious like about how this team views the concept of 'winning.'
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Jul 3, 2017 19:54
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https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/881944758570045440 Oilers continuing to stock up on AHLers.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:05
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Don't mind us, we're just sitting here twiddling our thumbs while Duchene regrets being drafted by his childhood dream team.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:08
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LumpyGumby posted:Don't mind us, we're just sitting here twiddling our thumbs while Duchene regrets being drafted by his childhood dream team. Surely his value will only go up as his remaining contract years decrease and he sulks his way to another 40 point season.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:16
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Koopa Kid posted:I understand the skepticism around any team like the Leafs that comes up from worst in the league to the playoffs suddenly, but by most metrics people use to judge repeatability the Leafs are either fine or could have been higher in the standings. The biggest thing to watch for with the Leafs this coming season (imo anyways) is injuries. they were one of the top-fiveish healthiest teams in the league last year in turns of man games lost, and the players that missed time weren't core pieces Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Rielly, Zaitsev, Gardiner, and JVR missed a combined 12 games all of last season, which is insane
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Jul 3, 2017 20:23
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whatis posted:The biggest thing to watch for with the Leafs this coming season (imo anyways) is injuries. they were one of the top-fiveish healthiest teams in the league last year in turns of man games lost, and the players that missed time weren't core pieces There probably is a correlation between that and their being one of the youngest teams in the league
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Jul 3, 2017 20:30
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its because matt martin scared the injuries away, actually
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Jul 3, 2017 20:37
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Winnipeg was the 2nd youngest team in the league last year and had the 2nd most man games lost to injury. Chicago on the other hand is old as gently caress, and they happened to be one of the healthiest teams in the league I'm sure age is a variable that pulls some weight when it comes to health and games lost, but it's mostly just dumb luck
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Jul 3, 2017 20:38
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whatis posted:The biggest thing to watch for with the Leafs this coming season (imo anyways) is injuries. they were one of the top-fiveish healthiest teams in the league last year in turns of man games lost, and the players that missed time weren't core pieces That's true, but in fairness Marner was dealing with mono for two months and was visibly affected for months after, and Rielly played with a high ankle sprain from January onward, so it's not like the whole team was playing 100% all year.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:46
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I don't hate the Radulov signing because all the goals is all you need but that's a buyout candidate if I've ever seen one. gently caress it, defense is pointless. Save us big ben. No one get injured this time round.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:46
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Ginette Reno posted:Apparently JR has talked to five different teams about trading for a 3c, so I guess that's the route he's more likely to go than signing a UFA. He's basically said that that's the only route he's going to take for a 3C. There's really no one worth looking at in the free agent market, anyway. I'd look for Rowney getting a shot at 4C. He's played center up through the AHL so playing 4th line minutes wouldn't be that much of a stretch as long as he can win a faceoff. Or just find a plug if Cullen doesn't come back.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:59
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JoelJoel posted:I don't hate the Radulov signing because all the goals is all you need but that's a buyout candidate if I've ever seen one. yeah, that will be a dumb contract in a few years, but it will be cool watching 7-5 Stars games
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Jul 3, 2017 21:25
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Eric the Mauve posted:There probably is a correlation between that and their being one of the youngest teams in the league Was about the say just that, they are still very young and bouncy and elastic and probably coached better in the physical department than any other previous generation of young players so unless for lovely luck of poo poo (like McDavid had) it is reasonable to figure they are not going to lose devastating man games to injury the next season either. At least their group has not developed any sort of pattern for that even in juniors AFAIK. Of course now that I wrote that, Matthews and Marner will get dropped during the first dozen games.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:27
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Juvi posted:He's basically said that that's the only route he's going to take for a 3C. There's really no one worth looking at in the free agent market, anyway. Daniel Winnik is still floating around isn't he? I know he didn't have a great time when the Pens picked him up as a deadline acquisition, but he might fill that 4C role decently enough.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:56
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Daniel Winnik is still floating around isn't he? I know he didn't have a great time when the Pens picked him up as a deadline acquisition, but he might fill that 4C role decently enough. Juice should take a discount to come back to us and relive the glory days
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Jul 3, 2017 22:05
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Juice should take a discount to come back to us and relive the glory days Forgot about Juice! He'd be a decent 4th liner. Does he kill penalties? I think that's really the big need because they lost a lot of PK unit. I say let Sid take a crack at it. His defensive game has really improved over the last couple years and giving Sid more minutes is never a bad thing.
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Jul 3, 2017 23:18
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Juvi posted:Forgot about Juice! He'd be a decent 4th liner. Does he kill penalties? I think that's really the big need because they lost a lot of PK unit. I want Sid nowhere near the PK.
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Jul 3, 2017 23:26
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Sid would be the best penalty killer in the league, but that would be fewer even strength minutes for him and the Penguins have a pretty good stable of penalty killing forwards anyway
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Jul 3, 2017 23:37
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Krime posted:I want Sid nowhere near the PK. Thinking about it, you're right. He'd jump in front of every shot he's close to because he's Sid and would probably break something, game 1. Eric the Mauve posted:Sid would be the best penalty killer in the league, but that would be fewer even strength minutes for him and the Penguins have a pretty good stable of penalty killing forwards anyway I don't know. Sid is such a machine that I don't think extra penalty minutes would affect his regular minutes. He'd probably demand more.
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so CAS, what are the feels at the moment? I see a decent draft and acceptable signings with an eye to improve the PP, which has been a tire fire for several years. The PK is a question mark with no more Burrows/Hansen. Still, there is no clear core to rebuild around unless Horvat (who is still unsigned), Boeser, Goldobin and Dahlen or some combination thereof actually turn into something. Otherwise I see repetition of calls to trade Tanev everywhere, which seems really stupid to me as he will still be worth a lot in three years if this team actually starts turning into a rebuilt franchise.
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