NBA Offseason G/V: Let Me Hear You Post It

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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline? This poll is closed.
The Big3 Tourney	67	22.41%
Will Lakers draft Ball	40	13.38%
Where will the Pauls go	54	18.06%
Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ??	41	13.71%
Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking	97	32.44%
Total:	210 votes

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The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Cool Buff Man posted:

So the Lakers are getting Rondo

Why do you say thing that you know will hurt me (and Rick)

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:18

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# ? May 21, 2024 06:19

Spoeank: Jul 16, 2003; That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

WhyteRyce posted:

George Hill is a good bridge PG. He can start while Fox figures things out and even play opposite him when he's ready for more. And we still have room for a SF. But that's a year longer than I would have liked

fingers crossed it's a team or player option on the third year. If that's the case I don't mind it so much while Fox gets an NBA body and a decent jumper.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:19

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

The Glumslinger posted:

Why do you say thing that you know will hurt me (and Rick)

I'm disappointed just like you are, because George Hill would have been better to watch and still wouldn't have been enough to make you win too many more games. My condolences.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:21

The B_36: Jul 10, 2012

I really, desperately, DO NOT want to wade into the Labour vs Capital debate and be faced with having to read 1100 pages of the Communist Manifesto, but why would this whole KD taking a paycut thing concern the Players Union at all? There are obviously real issues about labour vs capital in the modern world, but this contract seems to have absolutely nothing to do with it. As a whole, the players get 50% of league revenue, that number doesn't change at all if Durant signs for $500 million or if he signs for twenty bucks. This isn't labour giving the owners money - the players as a whole get the same, the owners get the same. I can see the top tier players getting a little annoyed that he's set a precedent that it's somewhat expected that you take a paycut to keep a good team together and win a championship, but again, that has nothing to do with the labour/capital divide, that's an issue between different groups of labourers. Him taking less money means that money goes to other players, not to the owners. He saved his team's owner some money, but that luxury tax money isn't going to the players, it goes to the owner's of teams who aren't spending as much money on their teams at the moment. I would think if you're anti-capital, you would like it if a bunch of owners weren't getting as much free money from another owner, or at least you wouldn't care (since you don't care how much tax Joe Lacob has to pay for his championship team, you shouldn't care how much tax money the Sixers owner receives).

This deal has nothing to do with labour vs capital, but from a competitive standpoint, it's still easy to see it as a weak move, so feel free to criticize him for that. In a regular job, taking less money to stay in a job and situation you like is usually a wise decision that people applaud you for, but sports are an inherently competitive industry for the labourers (the labourers compete directly against each other in an effort to win, whereas in my job I couldn't really care less if Honda out-competes Toyota or vice versa, as long as I get my paycheque) so it's a bit different. You're expected as an athlete to always be competing hard and helping your team win. It's weird tho, that KD made a decision that still resulted in him being on the best team, but I (and most non-Dubs fans) still think he's a bitch for it.

Sports are stupid sometimes.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:21

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Yooo

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882288274886328320

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:22

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

Hahaha the fuckin Kings

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:22

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

What the gently caress are the kings doing Goddamn

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:22

Spoeank: Jul 16, 2003; That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

Vlade just saying gently caress it and cashing out

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:23

SpiritOfSanDimas: Oct 31, 2012

Sad Z-Bo is leaving but happy that the Grizzlies are not the Kings

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:24

AggressivelyStupid: Jan 9, 2012

I'm sorry for your loss nick

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:25

Pozload Escobar: Aug 21, 2016; by Reene

The B_36 posted:

I really, desperately, DO NOT want to wade into the Labour vs Capital debate and be faced with having to read 1100 pages of the Communist Manifesto, but why would this whole KD taking a paycut thing concern the Players Union at all? There are obviously real issues about labour vs capital in the modern world, but this contract seems to have absolutely nothing to do with it. As a whole, the players get 50% of league revenue, that number doesn't change at all if Durant signs for $500 million or if he signs for twenty bucks. This isn't labour giving the owners money - the players as a whole get the same, the owners get the same. I can see the top tier players getting a little annoyed that he's set a precedent that it's somewhat expected that you take a paycut to keep a good team together and win a championship, but again, that has nothing to do with the labour/capital divide, that's an issue between different groups of labourers. Him taking less money means that money goes to other players, not to the owners. He saved his team's owner some money, but that luxury tax money isn't going to the players, it goes to the owner's of teams who aren't spending as much money on their teams at the moment. I would think if you're anti-capital, you would like it if a bunch of owners weren't getting as much free money from another owner, or at least you wouldn't care (since you don't care how much tax Joe Lacob has to pay for his championship team, you shouldn't care how much tax money the Sixers owner receives).

This deal has nothing to do with labour vs capital, but from a competitive standpoint, it's still easy to see it as a weak move, so feel free to criticize him for that. In a regular job, taking less money to stay in a job and situation you like is usually a wise decision that people applaud you for, but sports are an inherently competitive industry for the labourers (the labourers compete directly against each other in an effort to win, whereas in my job I couldn't really care less if Honda out-competes Toyota or vice versa, as long as I get my paycheque) so it's a bit different. You're expected as an athlete to always be competing hard and helping your team win. It's weird tho, that KD made a decision that still resulted in him being on the best team, but I (and most non-Dubs fans) still think he's a bitch for it.

Sports are stupid sometimes.

Sir this is a Wendy's drive thru

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:26

Carlosologist: Oct 13, 2013; Revelry in the Dark

Z-Bo is going to teach Skal, Papa John, and WCS the secret to grit and grind

but seriously, those are two good moves for the Kings! vets that can teach the kids and make them semi competitive while giving a clear window for when the kids should be good enough to be competitive on their own

Carlosologist fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jul 4, 2017

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:26

Pozload Escobar: Aug 21, 2016; by Reene

Also the only thing to take away from Durant's deal is he thinks not playing with Russ is worth 9m a year, and hell I agree.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:27

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

WhyteRyce posted:

George Hill is a good bridge PG. He can start while Fox figures things out and even play opposite him when he's ready for more. And we still have room for a SF. But that's a year longer than I would have liked

Partial guarantee on the third year, at least.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:27

The B_36: Jul 10, 2012

Someone post that Where Amazing Happens video of Zach Randolph with the Knicks clumsily dribbling the ball all around the court before haplessly jacking up a 30' three pointer that catches nothing but air. That's probably the Zach Randolph the Kings are gettting. I can't see him being all that engaged with a lovely team with a lovely culture that has a snowball's chance in hell of winning more than 25 games in the Murder Conference.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:28

RaySmuckles: Oct 14, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Dexo posted:

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/882285899723177984

Well

Someone took the money the Kings have been throwing out begging for people to come to them.

well georgie, you could have played for the spurs for cheaper, but you would have been competitive. instead you're going to one of the worst front offices in the NBA. wonder how you feel about that (probably happy considering he got paid $57 million)?

gonna be weird to see zbo off the grizz after all this time. he was part of a core that did some real cool poo poo

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:29

Michael Transactions: Nov 11, 2013

Do they have good pizza in Sacramento

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:30

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

All being on a lovely team means is you have more free time to spend the bag.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:30

The B_36: Jul 10, 2012

A Buff Gay Dude posted:

Sir this is a Wendy's drive thru

This is probably the response my half-formed opinions deserve, good play :hfive:

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:30

RaySmuckles: Oct 14, 2009; Grimey Drawer

The B_36 posted:

Someone post that Where Amazing Happens video of Zach Randolph with the Knicks clumsily dribbling the ball all around the court before haplessly jacking up a 30' three pointer that catches nothing but air. That's probably the Zach Randolph the Kings are gettting. I can't see him being all that engaged with a lovely team with a lovely culture that has a snowball's chance in hell of winning more than 25 games in the Murder Conference.

lol, i looked that up and its pretty funny.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:32

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

vaginal facsimile posted:

Do they have good pizza in Sacramento

Pizza Rock has a decent Detroit Red Top Pizza!

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:32

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

The Randolph deal, I don't know. He be great to have around but we've already got a full front court and Joerger won't be able to help himself and will play him for 30mpg

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:33

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

WhyteRyce posted:

George Hill is a good bridge PG. He can start while Fox figures things out and even play opposite him when he's ready for more. And we still have room for a SF. But that's a year longer than I would have liked

Yeah that's a really good signing. Takes pressure off Fox in the short term and is able to slide over to the 2 once Fox is ready

I really like Hill, I wish the timing with him in Utah had worked out better. They were a great team whenever he was healthy

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:34

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

George Hill turned down essentially 3 years/80 million from the Jazz to sign with the Kings.

What.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:36

Darude - Adam Sandstorm: Aug 16, 2012

I'm dating a billionaire heiress. Any tips on how I can leverage that into buying a basketball team? Thanks.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:36

Ghetto SuperCzar: Feb 20, 2005

WhyteRyce posted:

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/882285899723177984

Wait I thought they liked Fox?

I guess Hill can play SG?

I don't understand this move....

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:37

Carlosologist: Oct 13, 2013; Revelry in the Dark

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

I'm dating a billionaire heiress. Any tips on how I can leverage that into buying a basketball team? Thanks.

expose an owner as a racist/hooligan

basically i'm saying use her money to buy the Knicks

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:37

Spacebump: Dec 24, 2003; Dallas Mavericks: Generations

Correct me if I'm wrong but have only 3 West teams gotten worse so far this offseason? (Lakers, Clippers, Grizz)

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:38

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

I'm dating a billionaire heiress. Any tips on how I can leverage that into buying a basketball team? Thanks.

Consult with Gayle Benson, wife of Pelicans owner, Tom Benson.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:38

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

Tae posted:

George Hill turned down essentially 3 years/80 million from the Jazz to sign with the Kings.

What.

That offer was in like February but yeah. Point guard market wound up being a lot softer than people expected once the cap number dropped

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:39

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

Ghetto SuperCzar posted:

Wait I thought they liked Fox?

I guess Hill can play SG?

I don't understand this move....

Fox can get a normal rookie workload of like 20-25 minutes a night and if he's great out the gate Hill is a trade piece.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:39

Mr. Mambold: Feb 13, 2011; Aha. Nice post.

WhyteRyce posted:

The Randolph deal, I don't know. He be great to have around but we've already got a full front court and Joerger won't be able to help himself and will play him for 30mpg

I think he and Hill are going to be good for Sac.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:39

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

Ghetto SuperCzar posted:

Wait I thought they liked Fox?

I guess Hill can play SG?

I don't understand this move....

You can like Fox without wanting him to be your only option at point guard right away and yeah Hill plays very well off the ball and can guard both spots

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:40

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

Spacebump posted:

Correct me if I'm wrong but have only 3 West teams gotten worse so far this offseason? (Lakers, Clippers, Grizz)

Talk to me again in a couple hours

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:41

Bush Did Outer Heaven: Jan 18, 2005; The Sweetest Payne

There's like 20 teams in the tax or near it, and Phoenix and Brooklyn are the only bad contract dumping grounds left.

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:41

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

If you're going to spend 12 million annual at a player, why a PF when your roster is basically full of Bigs and not a SF?

Do the Kings even have a natural SF at this point?

# ? Jul 4, 2017 18:41