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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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It would have to be negotiated They just finished a negotiation round . I doubt there is appetite to reopen the cba at This time
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Jul 5, 2017 18:29
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Mosgov was flukey. Ownership was in the middle of a civil war and the gm was trying to save his job. It should never have gotten to that . It was a bad Buss will
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Jul 5, 2017 18:30
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https://twitter.com/its_whitney/status/882410361638539268
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Jul 5, 2017 18:32
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Woj being terrible on TV is so hilariously great
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Jul 5, 2017 18:35
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How many irredeemably bad contracts were actually handed out last season? Turner and Mozgov are the obvious ones. I dunno how many more I'd consider as bad as that.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:36
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I just think the Hayward "well looks like he showed his TRUE COLORS" stuff is funny. His faith in the Thanks City letter and rigid adherence to the plan in the face of leaks is more naive and clumsy than the work of a world-class snake. I wouldn't expect Jazz fans to be happy now that their team is significantly worse but you'd think Hayward had pulled a DeAndre on them
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Jul 5, 2017 18:36
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leftist heap posted:How many irredeemably bad contracts were actually handed out last season? Turner and Mozgov are the obvious ones. I dunno how many more I'd consider as bad as that. That's the thing. Take Mike Conley's Massive loving Contract. He's worth at least that much, it just kinda fucks with the balance of the team. Basically it reveals what we've known all along, all NBA players are underpaid
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Jul 5, 2017 18:39
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If anything the problem is still that the owners are bad. Like look, I'm not going to blame players for taking money that is offered to them. Otto Porter shouldn't be getting a Max deal. That deal is going to hamstring the poo poo out of the Wizards going forward. Ditto with Tyler Johnson and how next year he's going to be a ~19 million dollar a year player. Portland and Crabbe/Turner Lakers Mosgov/Deng These teams hosed themselves over. I'm not gonna blame the players or the players union for front offices losing their drat fool mind and going full on Prokov/Billy King when they get a bonus.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:40
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Getting upset about Hayward denying that a decision had been made is seriously the dumbest thing Move the Jazz to Seattle and give Utah a baseball team so their fans can be indignant about bat flips
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Jul 5, 2017 18:40
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leftist heap posted:How many irredeemably bad contracts were actually handed out last season? Turner and Mozgov are the obvious ones. I dunno how many more I'd consider as bad as that. chandler parsons lmao
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Jul 5, 2017 18:40
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Dexo posted:If anything the problem is still that the owners are bad. Most of those are rfas which is a broken system
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Jul 5, 2017 18:41
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leftist heap posted:How many irredeemably bad contracts were actually handed out last season? Turner and Mozgov are the obvious ones. I dunno how many more I'd consider as bad as that. https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/748729312325595137 https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/752216113484746752
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Jul 5, 2017 18:41
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A large number of teams collectively mismanaging their cap space and giving huge contracts to bad players isn't really the fault of the players union. the only problematic thing about not smoothing cap jumps is it briefly allows players who are worth more than a max contract (Kevin Durant) to sign with teams that shouldn't be able to add another max contract (the Warriors), and you could argue that max contracts are really what's at fault there.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:41
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MourningView posted:I don't know if he cares, but this isn't what happened. Someone in his camp leaked to reporters he was going to Boston before he had a chance to tell Utah, he got pissed and had his agent deny that a decision was made, lots of Utah fans got false hope, it lingered most of the day, and then he broke their hearts all over again with that stupid players tribune thing. The instagram thing came out after his initial denial and doesn't have anything to do with it. It was a bad way to handle it. If you're going to leave anyway just confirm it once it gets out, don't give people false hope just for the sake of some dumb ghost written letter that doesn't serve any purpose aside from making you feel like you handled things in a classy way by thanking Utah on the way out the door. Even given that, it wasn't exactly DJ locked in a house, and "WILL HAUNT HIM" still sounded like excess bitterness, but then I got to the bolded part add Salt Lake City to the list of Utah's dozens of Ghost Towns immediately
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Jul 5, 2017 18:42
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Dexo posted:Ditto with Tyler Johnson and how next year he's going to be a ~19 million dollar a year player. Actually this was amazing cause it was the nets just loving with miami
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Jul 5, 2017 18:42
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dokmo posted:https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/748729312325595137 Ian Mahimi is so bad people don't even realize he got the exact same contract as Mozgov and played even worse
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Jul 5, 2017 18:44
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leftist heap posted:How many irredeemably bad contracts were actually handed out last season? Turner and Mozgov are the obvious ones. I dunno how many more I'd consider as bad as that. A fair amount of these are defensible or not bad but I don't think many are sniffing that amount in any other year Chandler Parsons: 4 years, $98.5M Miles Plumlee: 4 years, $52 million Ken Bazemore: 4 years, $70M Ryan Anderson: 4 years, $80M Bismack Biyombo: 4 years, $72M Jordan Clarkson: 4 years, $50M Courtney Lee: 4 years, $50M Alan Crabbe: 4 years, $75M Ian Mahinmi: 4 years, $64M Meyers Leonard: 4 years, $41M Joakim Noah: 4 years, $72M Al Jefferson: 3 years, $30M Luol Deng: 4 years, $72M Tyler Johnson: 4 years, $50M Andrew Nicholson: 4 years, $26M Timofey Mozgov: 4 years, $65M Cole Aldrich: 3 years, $22M DJ Augustin: 4 years, $29M Rajon Rondo: 2 years, $28M Solomon Hill: 4 years, $52M Dwight Powell: 4 years, $37M Jon Leuer: 4 years, $42M morestuff fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jul 5, 2017 |
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Jul 5, 2017 18:44
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Also if the NBA was serious about cap smoothing they should've proposed it a year earlier so that the 2015-16 cap could've been higher
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Jul 5, 2017 18:45
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Johnson is 12.5 average which is fine Under the new cba Miami could have averaged out the salary
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Jul 5, 2017 18:45
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Dexo posted:Otto Porter shouldn't be getting a Max deal. One by one the Nets will shank teams with RFAs, collect their blood in a pan and sell it back to them for picks as they lay in dying need. I love my brutal Russian crime team. Black and white and paid for red 
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Jul 5, 2017 18:45
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ha I forgot about Luol
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Jul 5, 2017 18:46
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euphronius posted:Most of those are rfas which is a broken system yup. Though smart teams that can plan well and scout well will tend to lock their quality players up before they hit RFA and get overpaid in the first place.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:47
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Dexo posted:yup. Or trade them to Indiana for Paul George
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Jul 5, 2017 18:49
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euphronius posted:Or trade them to Indiana for Paul George pretty sure I said quality players... edit: Though yeah I like Zach Lavine and am kinda hoping the bulls can leverage the knee injury(jesus that sounds bad typing it out like that) to get him to sign a below market deal for stability and security.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:50
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The Glumslinger posted:Ian Mahimi is so bad people don't even realize he got the exact same contract as Mozgov and played even worse In Mahinmi's defense he was hurt for nearly the entire season. He looked much improved as a pacer, but not 16m a year for 4 years improved
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Jul 5, 2017 18:50
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How do you fix RFA? Would you do a baseball style system of arbitration? I feel like that gives teams more leverage and could possibly harm player relationships with the team
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Jul 5, 2017 18:53
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Holy poo poo Oladipo is making 21M a year. goddamn.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:54
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Dexo posted:Holy poo poo Oladipo is making 21M a year. yeah that extension was real bad and okc pulled a heist in dumping it. even if george leaves after this year they still won the trade from that dump alone
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Jul 5, 2017 18:57
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882659393954652160
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Jul 5, 2017 18:57
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Carlosologist posted:How do you fix RFA? Would you do a baseball style system of arbitration? I feel like that gives teams more leverage and could possibly harm player relationships with the team Rfa kills relationships too
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Jul 5, 2017 18:57
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Carlosologist posted:How do you fix RFA? Would you do a baseball style system of arbitration? I feel like that gives teams more leverage and could possibly harm player relationships with the team I like Arbitration a bunch, Honestly I think Rookies should get Arbitration after their first 2 years in the league(the years when the Owners have a Team option on rookie contracts) Or the Teams can sign them to their second contract. Well my real thought is abolish the Draft but other than that... Though that probably means MCW and those like him would have ended up getting paid a ton, which is not something I'm sure I can cosign...
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Jul 5, 2017 18:57
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Dexo posted:Holy poo poo Oladipo is making 21M a year. That's what I meant One way to deal with bad rfas is to turn them into Paul George lol
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Jul 5, 2017 18:58
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Swaggy P ring chasing!
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Jul 5, 2017 18:58
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Contract year Nick Young is going to be insanely good on the Warriors
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Jul 5, 2017 18:58
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Another love turned enemy
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Jul 5, 2017 18:59
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between javale and swaggy golden state is shrewdly signing all the most likable players to attempt to get people to stop hating them it won't work on me. not unless they also sign vince carter and also also sign t-mac out of retirement.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:59
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Ohhh poo poo. Taking the Ian Clark role, should be fun. Won't be surprised to see a Javale-esque redemption season.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:59
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Teach them, Swaggy https://twitter.com/NickSwagyPYoung/status/741451413633437696
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Jul 5, 2017 19:01
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Aww 
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Jul 5, 2017 19:02
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I forgot about Parsons and Noah, lmao. Oladipo was an extension but yeah his contract is awful. Meyers Leonard sucks but I'm not gonna begrudge a dude making $10 million. Crabbe's contract is awful but at least he can do A Thing passably well. Turner literally can't do anything even remotely well.
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