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quote:Captain Blackadder: You see, Baldrick, in order to prevent war two great super-armies developed. Us, the Russians and the French on one side, Germany and Austro-Hungary on the other. The idea being that each army would act as the other's deterrent. That way, there could never be a war.
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I am dumb. But not that dumb. I know USA is fighting the right war here.
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Tei posted:These missiles are defensive. As of 2010, 22% of American adults own a gun according to the Pew Research Center and it's dropping dramatically so probably less now. Contrary to popular belief, the US isn't comprised of a single entity that calls for guns for everyone while also making geopolitical decision.
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Not comprised of, but pretty much ruled by. Someone post the graph where "Steve" has 10 nukes within a margin of error.
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Jul 5, 2017 20:17
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The only way to prevent a bad guy with a Death Star is a good guy with a Death Star.  Also, the second amendment protects the right for me to own recreational nukes. 
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Jul 5, 2017 20:20
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wide stance posted:As of 2010, 22% of American adults own a gun according to the Pew Research Center and it's dropping dramatically so probably less now. It's also something hillariously skewed within that 22%. The vast majority of people with guns? 1 or 2 guns, usually a pistol or a standard long rifle, occasionally an heirloom from family. Then there's something like 5% that have a lot more guns, because the average amount guns someone who owns any guns at all owns i 4, because that last 5% of 22% really pulls up the average the way CEO salaries pull up the average for salaries in general. There's people with tens of thousands of guns personally in there. It's wild. And that's how you end up with there being more guns than there are Americans in America, yet most people aren't armed at all.
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wide stance posted:As of 2010, 22% of American adults own a gun according to the Pew Research Center and it's dropping dramatically so probably less now. lmao and there's one gun for every person in the united states That 22% has a metric fuckton of guns, each
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On the other hand, you have to consider that if you called up a not-insignificant portion of gun owners on the phone and asked them if they own guns, they'd say they don't. 
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fishmech posted:It's also something hillariously skewed within that 22%. The vast majority of people with guns? 1 or 2 guns, usually a pistol or a standard long rifle, occasionally an heirloom from family. Then there's something like 5% that have a lot more guns, because the average amount guns someone who owns any guns at all owns i 4, because that last 5% of 22% really pulls up the average the way CEO salaries pull up the average for salaries in general. So what you are saying is that the glock of you all keep under your pillow is a rental?? Seriously though, the stats are also not fully descriptive of the real numbers vs the stereotype because it probably only count handguns and not all firearms. It also does not include the population that do not own a gun themselves but live in a household where there is a firearm present. If you look at firearm ownership it is 30% over the whole population and if you use the household criteria above the number shoot above 40%, how far above 40% depend on if you include guns stored in other properties etc. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/22/key-takeaways-on-americans-views-of-guns-and-gun-ownership/psdt_2017-06-22-guns-00-11/ Also, the true gun nut percentage is around 3% in the population, as this is the percentage that owns 50% of the guns. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/19/us-gun-ownership-survey Zudgemud fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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Spoeank posted:lmao and there's one gun for every person in the united states and it's not like that 22% all has an even 5, half of that probably has 1 or 2 pushing up the numbers of the other half even more.
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e - nvm
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Is it weird that the main thing I notice about this map is that IT'S SLOVENIA DAMMIT! I'm not from a Balkan country either.
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Koramei posted:e^: are you sure? I'd expect that would make the negative opinions dramatically higher in lots of the countries that score the lowest on that map. Japanese antisemitism is a strange thing - for a long time, the country's only significant exposure to Jews was through literature; first a translation of The Merchant of Venice, and then through Nazi-era treatises on racial science. The result was that the perfidious Jewish banker was a recognized figure, but its impact was more or less confined to the imagination, since there were very few real Jews about. The odd thing is, somehow, even when the Japanese encountered Jewish refugees in occupied Chinese territory, they seemed not to translate the figure into real people. These poor people clearly weren't the Zionist conspiracy, so who cares, let them be. And some of that has stuck around even in the aftermath of the war, though it certainly declined - you get "yes, the Jewish World Conspiracy is real and threatening, but my Jewish neighbor is actually a nice guy." There's a decent book on in, Jews in the Japanese Mind, which is kind of a fascinating case study about what happens when you have racist ideas circulating without anyone around to be the real object of that racism.
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Also, during the interwar years, the a lot of influential Japanese officials read The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (an infamous hoax plan for Jewish world domination) and rather taking away the intended message of "the Jews are dangerous," they instead went "wow, these Jews are really powerful, we'd better get them on our side" and the result of that was allowing a lot of Jewish settlement in Japanese-occupied territories.
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Jul 6, 2017 17:29
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Many people have this idea that part of the identity of the jew is "chosen people" (I am not educated enough to know if is true or not). Is a idea that clash with almost any other identity. Because if these dudes are the chosen one who are we? trash?. Humans are flawed, can't stop being jealous like a dog can't stop moving his tail. You can cut a dog his tail, but he still move it (the muscles, what is left of the tail).
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Pakled posted:Also, during the interwar years, the a lot of influential Japanese officials read The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (an infamous hoax plan for Jewish world domination) and rather taking away the intended message of "the Jews are dangerous," they instead went "wow, these Jews are really powerful, we'd better get them on our side" and the result of that was allowing a lot of Jewish settlement in Japanese-occupied territories. This will never not be funny to me.
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Jul 6, 2017 18:32
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I mean who wants to be on Illuminati's bad side?
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Tei posted:Many people have this idea that part of the identity of the jew is "chosen people" (I am not educated enough to know if is true or not). Is a idea that clash with almost any other identity. Because if these dudes are the chosen one who are we? trash?. It's literally the same as American exceptionalism only older and (I think) less popular - because about 100% of Americans think America is somehow exceptional in many if not all ways.
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Private Speech posted:Is it weird that the main thing I notice about this map is that IT'S SLOVENIA DAMMIT!  Also I can see skipping Lichtenstein and Andorra, but where's Montenegro? 
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Jerry Cotton posted:It's literally the same as American exceptionalism only older and (I think) less popular - because about 100% of Americans think America is somehow exceptional in many if not all ways.
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America is a very special country.
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American exceptionalism is european ego - the desire to kill our neighbors 24/7.
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Peanut President posted:American exceptionalism is european ego - the desire to kill our neighbors 24/7. My neighbour is really cute though.
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So what is this actually a map of, then? And why is there a green half to the legend if there's not actually any green on the map?
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AgentF posted:So what is this actually a map of, then? And why is there a green half to the legend if there's not actually any green on the map? Global warming is why
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I think "terrestrial water storage" is referring to aquifers and thus it's a map of ground subsidence due to water extraction. E: Searched the map and apparently it's variation in gravity due to drought conditions in the middle east. They use weird units based on the mass of a layer of water over the surface. So the gravity detector satellites have worked out that at the spot in Egypt, there's less mass there. If you imagine that there was a 30cm layer of water over the area that was taken away, that's how much water they've lost. The two Gravity satellites are called Tom and Jerry. Just thought you'd like to know. Jaguars! fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jul 7, 2017 |
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Peanut President posted:American exceptionalism is european ego - the desire to kill our neighbors 24/7. Luckily, it's hard to fulfill this European bloodlust when your neighbors are the oceans, Canada, and Mexico. So blasé. I was listening to Dan Carlin and the schizophrenic nature of the US's foreign policy pretty consistently since 1898 is a lot more complicated than people like to posture toward and meme about.
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Tei posted:Many people have this idea that part of the identity of the jew is "chosen people" (I am not educated enough to know if is true or not). Is a idea that clash with almost any other identity. Because if these dudes are the chosen one who are we? trash?. The traditional Jewish view of that is that they have a special contractual relationship with God in which they have certain extra responsibilities and if they fulfill them, they'll be rewarded and if they don't fulfill them, punished harsher than people outside the covenant. In the traditional Jewish view, the path for a non-Jew to achieve "Righteous Gentile" status is very easy (basically mostly involving refraining from outright insulting God), while Jews themselves are held to far higher standards by the faith. It's the reason why Jews are supposed to be so cautionary to people who want to convert into the faith. The line is that God is probably already more or less cool with you the way you are now as a Gentile, but if you become a Jew, God's standards for you are going to be a lot higher. Are you really OK with signing up for that?
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Thats sounds just geeky cool. Maybe judaism is a geeky religion all around. If I not where atheist, I would be jew for the cool factor of it.
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Patter Song posted:The traditional Jewish view of that is that they have a special contractual relationship with God in which they have certain extra responsibilities and if they fulfill them, they'll be rewarded and if they don't fulfill them, punished harsher than people outside the covenant. In the traditional Jewish view, the path for a non-Jew to achieve "Righteous Gentile" status is very easy (basically mostly involving refraining from outright insulting God), while Jews themselves are held to far higher standards by the faith. This is pretty much right (of course like any religion it depends when/who you ask.) Jews very much believe we are the "chosen" people, but that's not to say we are superior or even blessed or lucky. We're here to do this poo poo so you don't have to, and God gets it. Most people are not jews because jewing sucks, and God wants you to be happy. In fact God even gets that jews are still dumb humans, which is why the religion is cool with rules-lawyering crap like turning all of Manhattan into a "private residence" or inventing a special sort of light switch so we can live normal modern first-world lives and still be Shabbat-compliant. Unlike a lot of modern christians and muslims (though certainly not all), judaism also has a long and vibrant tradition of almost all religious laws being worth breaking if it prevents harm to yourself or others, saves your own or another's life, or if you're tricked into doing it. I think islam actually has that too, sort of. IE it's cool to eat non-kosher if you're starving. It's forgiveable to deny God if being jewish means the SS will shoot up your family. You don't go to hell because GI Jackass shot you with special-ordered bullets with imbedded pork fat. A jewish firefighter can respond to an emergency on the sabbath. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jul 7, 2017 |
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This is an interactive one. Draw the 50 states from memory, one by one, and it'll make a map of the US. Here's my pitiful attempt.
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 edit: if in doubt, the state's probably a square. HookShot fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Jul 7, 2017 |
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Jul 7, 2017 04:17
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 I forgot Wisconsin was a state, and the app ate upstate NY for some reason.
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Craptacular posted:This is an interactive one. Draw the 50 states from memory, one by one, and it'll make a map of the US. Here's my pitiful attempt. That was fun. Shame I'm not from US.  Is there one for countries? I'd love to try.
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 Please note I'm left-handed and using a mouse with my right hand. Also if you draw a glans on the end of Florida's dong it docks you points.
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Oh, this thing is fun. I got Montana backwards 
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:
The Babylonian Talmud: Baba Mezia 59B posted:Why [the oven of] 'Aknai? — Said Rab Judah in Samuel's name: [It means] that they encompassed it with arguments2 as a snake, and proved it unclean. It has been taught: On that day R. Eliezer brought forward every imaginable argument,3 but they did not accept them. Said he to them: 'If the halachah agrees with me, let this carob-tree prove it!' Thereupon the carob-tree was torn a hundred cubits out of its place — others affirm, four hundred cubits. 'No proof can be brought from a carob-tree,' they retorted. Again he said to them: 'If the halachah agrees with me, let the stream of water prove it!' Whereupon the stream of water flowed backwards — 'No proof can be brought from a stream of water,' they rejoined. Again he urged: 'If the halachah agrees with me, let the walls of the schoolhouse prove it,' whereupon the walls inclined to fall. But R. Joshua rebuked them, saying: 'When scholars are engaged in a halachic dispute, what have ye to interfere?' Hence they did not fall, in honour of R. Joshua, nor did they resume the upright, in honour of R. Eliezer; and they are still standing thus inclined. Again he said to them: 'If the halachah agrees with me, let it be proved from Heaven!' Whereupon a Heavenly Voice cried out: 'Why do ye dispute with R. Eliezer, seeing that in all matters the halachah agrees with him!' But R. Joshua arose and exclaimed: 'It is not in heaven.'4 What did he mean by this? — Said R. Jeremiah: That the Torah had already been given at Mount Sinai; we pay no attention to a Heavenly Voice, because Thou hast long since written in the Torah at Mount Sinai, After the majority must one incline.5 The story goes on to say that Rabbi Eliezer ends up excommunicated and gets a cool X-Men-style power where everything he looks at is destroyed and ends up slaying Rabbi Gamaliel by accident. (The Talmud can get really strange sometimes) But yeah, that is a story from the Talmud, a book chronicling running arguments by Jewish scholars over the course of 400 years about what exactly Jewish laws mean, in which Rabbi Eliezer gets God Himself to say "Eliezer's right" and Rabbi Joshua basically responds "No, you had your chance at Sinai to give laws, your time is over, it's our turn now" and God's like "OK."
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Patter Song posted:The story goes on to say that Rabbi Eliezer ends up excommunicated and gets a cool X-Men-style power where everything he looks at is destroyed and ends up slaying Rabbi Gamaliel by accident. (The Talmud can get really strange sometimes) That is pretty hilarious as it sounds like God being like: G: "guys that is not at all what I meant you are misinterpreting what I sai..." R: "SHUT UP, YOU WROTE THIS poo poo NOW OWN IT" G: "fine, yes, I used those words, go ahead, take it literally and go gently caress things up like you always do... god drat kids these days"
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