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Hunt11 posted:Can we please stop dancing around what happens until we get there?
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Haifisch posted:Persona 5: Dancing All Thread.
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PMush Perfect posted:Followed by the fangame Persona 5: Spoiling All Afternoon. One hot summer afternoon, the Phantom Thieves face their greatest challenge yet: eating five topsicles.
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ChaosArgate posted:How about we let the game play out until we get to the scene in question, since we probably have at least a week of in-game time before we even get there. No man, everyone must know that the game is going to poo poo itself and be bad every single update. It has to be said here to people who don't know, instead of the Games thread, where people are already experienced with the game too.
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PMush Perfect posted:Followed by the fangame Persona 5: Spoiling All Afternoon. And then the secret Mona sidestory, Persona 5: It's 8PM Go To Sleep
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Rainuwastaken posted:And then the secret Mona sidestory, Persona 5: It's 8PM Go To Sleep And its sequel, Persona 5: This Game Is About Rebellion, I'll Go To Sleep When I'm Good And Ready You drat Cat
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Part 28: 5/16: It Belongs In A Museum Today, we’re heading over to Yusuke’s right after school to get more information about Madarame.  Music: So Boring   I’ve gone to see his works a number of times. Goodness, are they magnificent! The moment I saw them, I knew he was something else. By the way, you seem far removed from the arts, Hamiru-kun. Do you know who created the piece which sold for the highest price back in the 20th Century? That’s correct. It seems you know a thing or two after all. That piece was purchased for the equivalent of eighteen billion yen, and it sold for even more later. However, since the turn of the 21st century, a new record has been set practically every year.Maaku gains Knowledge +1. People put a serious amount of passion and money into art. If I had that kind of money, I wouldn’t mind having a painting or two myself, haha... Seems like art can make you a tidy sum. Let’s see with our own eyes whether or not the accusations of him stealing art are true. You’re meeting Lady Ann and the others at the train station, right? Let’s go when class lets out!  The train is the fastest way to go. Plus, we can bring pets on here.Music: Wicked Plan    Dude, be quiet! We didn’t pay the pet fare. I’m the one guiding you to your destination! You should be calling me “Master”! Er, shoot…! Is that your pet, Mister? I heard it meowing! Yeah, it’s just a toy. It meows when you press on its head. You heard her, Maaku. Press on its head. This is ridic-- M-Mewww… Wowweeeee! Again! Again! Time to terrorize this cat.  …… Ahahah, that’s so funny! I wanna hear it again! I just threw up in my mouth... Seriously...? The next stop is Shibuya. Shibuya. Doors will open on the left side. Oh, this is our stop! Well, see you later! Bye bye! Mm-hm! Bye bye!Music: Tokyo Daylight  Doesn’t look like there are any stations close by to that address… If anything, this is the closest station. What!? Then we gotta walk the rest of the way!? What kinda phantom thief takes the train, and then walks to their destination!?The kind that shouts loudly in public that they’re a phantom thief, I suppose. Stop your complaining. It’s supposedly a shack, but this is the neighborhood he lives in… As expected of a famous artist. Looks like the fastest route is to get to station square and then go to Central Street. Let’s move! You sure it’s this way? I don’t remember seeing a house. It’s supposed to be in a residential area past Central Street. We’ll have to walk a bit though. OK, let’s get going!Music: Disquiet   Reason for turning himself in is… a heavy conscience, huh… The human mind doesn’t change that easily… let alone their natural temperament. Shujin Academy… Seems doubtful… Perhaps I’ll have someone look into it, just in case...Uh-oh. Looks like the SIU Director is hip to our bullshit.  We’re at the right address… The door plate does say “Madarame.” Uhhh… You ring the bell. Me!? The walls won’t collapse when I do, will they…? No one sneeze or we’ll blow this house down, OK?   Sensei is currently-- Um, it’s Takamaki. I’ll be right out! People really do live here...   ‘Sup dude. I’m never gonna get tired of Yusuke’s reactions when Ann shows up with her entourage of morons. Sorry, but we ain’t here to talk about the modeling thing. There’s something we gotta ask you. Is it true Madarame’s plagiarizin’ stuff? He’s abusin’ people too, yeah? This is a really great deadpan line read, for the record. You can hear the exasperation in his voice for having to deal with these idiots. We read about it online.   Yusuke begins laughing hysterically. Preposterous! Not only is the plagiarism impossible, but abuse? If he hated children so much to harm them, he would never allow pupils into his home! And I’m the one residing here and studying under him. I’m saying it’s not true, so it’s beyond doubt. That… ...That is utter rubbish.  ...You really think that?  What’s the matter? I heard you yelling. These people are slandering you with baseless rumors! ...Forgive them, Yusuke. They must’ve heard some bad rumors and came in worry for their friend’s safety. ...Understood, Sensei. Well, even I doubt that a cranky old man like myself could be liked by everyone. That’s not what we meant... I’m sorry to have butt in on your conversation. However, I do have neighbors around. Won’t you please keep it down? Now, if you’ll excuse me.  ...I know! I think you’ll be able to believe in Sensei if you saw that painting. Music: Alright (Elp Version) “Sayuri”…? This was the painting that inspired me to become an artist. It’s so beautiful... I don’t know all that fine-art stuff, but even I can tell that this is impressive... When I first saw you, I felt the same powerful emotion as when I saw this painting… Me? I wish to pursue beauty like this. I’m sorry that you took the time to come all this way, but I must assist Sensei today. I hope that we can discuss this further another time. If you’ll excuse me, then. Maybe the Madarame we heard about in Mementos is a different person. Man, right when we thought we found a new target, too... How’s the Meta-Nav? Hey, the app...Music: Disquiet Was it picking up our conversation…? This display… it means that Madarame has a Palace too, right!? “Madarame,” “plagiarism”… and then “shack,” huh? These seem to be the keywords. For real though, what the hell’s goin’ on!? HE’S SECRETLY EVIL, YOU IDIOTS We have the person’s name and the location. All that’s left is the “what” that Madarame mistakes this shack for to enter his Palace. You mean… like how Kamoshida thought the school was his castle? That’s right. Let’s try saying some things. They can be random guesses.Here we enter the crucial, plot-critical scene of the protagonists needing to guess random words to advance the story. It’s a bit sudden, though... Why don’t we start with “castle”? No candidates found.You fool, they wouldn’t recycle assets that blatantly! Then, what about “prison”? No candidates found. Ugh, what a pain!Ryuji, ready to give up after two guesses. “Jail”! “Warehouse”! And “guidance counselin’ office”! Might as well add “farm”!I feel like we’ve learned a lot about Ryuji from these guesses. No candidates found. Not a single hit…? ...Should we come back another time? A building that’s related to artists… If we think from there, what would it be…?        Didn’t have much of a choice. I think we just happened to get it right. What if I hadn’t noticed, and then wandered off and got caught by an enemy!? You prolly woulda figured it out once you started walkin’ on two legs. Grr… So even you can slip into the Metaverse without realizing it, Morgana? Yup. In a place with minimal cognitive distortion, the differences can be subtle.  Let’s go check it out!Music: A Woman  It’s a museum… right? This is Madarame’s? A Palace is a scenery driven by desires, just like how Kamoshida’s Palace was a castle. Madarame’s artwork is on display at museums in reality too, though. His exhibit was popular, and people already respect him. Why would he fantasize about a museum? You got a point… It ain’t related to plagiarism or abuse either. Let’s try looking around. Racking our brains here won’t do us any good. ...Right. That aside… Ain’t a museum a must for phantom thieves!? Now that’s our Joker. I feel the same. But man, just look at that insane crowd... Ugh… Are we gonna have to wait in that gigantic line? Don’t be stupid. We’re not going in the front door. But there’s a high wall around the building... We’ll just have to find our way up over it then. In any case, let’s get going!  Our way over the wall is this conspicuous truck.  It’s just not hitting me that this is that old guy’s Palace… That’s why we’re here, right? C’mon, let’s go check it out.  Once we make it over the wall and through the garden, we see an open window. Ooh! The skylight’s open! I think we can get in here. But it’s a pretty far drop… Will we be able to get back out this way? Hehe, don’t worry… I have a rope! I’m our tool specialist, after all! So, what’s your call, Joker? Want to head inside? >Let’s do this.  H-Hey… This... The painting shifts, the colors swimming, as if beneath the surface of a pool of water. C’mon, we’re in a Palace. That ain’t anything to be freakin’ out over. Hm, the Palace reflects its ruler’s heart… We may want to check these paintings out. ...It’s someone’s name and age? What the hell? That can’t be the title of the painting… right? Do you think it’s the artist’s name? …… Let’s check out the other paintings too. I think there might be something important about them...  There’s something uncanny about all these portraits.  But the portraits on display here look the same… This is way different from what was at the-- Wait a sec! Natsuhiko Nakanohara. His name’s written on the plaque. Dude, I don’t get it! Why’s there a paintin’ of him in here!? And more important, why’s his name written under it? You’re right… Doesn’t art usually have like, the title of the piece or the artist’s name? Hm… This is quite the mystery… All right, let’s keep looking around for now. Further in, we see something else that alarms us… What…? No way! It says “Yusuke Kitagawa.” There’s no mistaking it. Huh…? Wait a second… What do you think these paintings are…? I think you’re right. For real? All of ‘em…? But it was only Yusuke when we went to his place before... This must include former pupils as well. Only one remains now… Taking into account what that Nakanohara guy said earlier, things are getting clearer. All right, let’s keep investigating. We need something to further confirm our deductions. Nothing good.  What’s up? You find something? We’re here to investigate, so we should check everything that catches our attention. This is gettin’ way too detailed for a freakin’ Palace… Why’d he bother makin’ something like this? Oh, there’s a museum guide on here. Let’s take it with us! That is a possibility. At the very least, it should be good reference for the scale of this place. I see… It says it’s one out of two. ...Then the two outta two’s gotta be around here somewhere, right? Just how big is this place…? We can worry about that another time. Right now our objective is looking into Madarame’s cognition. We may have to reconsider our plan depending on what we find. I mean, he’s got a Palace… Seems pretty fishy to me. Before we proceed, we find another locked chest. We happen to have two Lockpicks at the moment, so let’s open it.    The Training Whip is a rather decent upgrade for Ann, the Pearl can be sold at a high price, and the Snuff Soul is 50 SP back. We made out rather well on that one, I’d say. Also they didn’t so much animate Morgana jumping off your shoulder as much as they had him just fall off.  Up ahead, we see a weird sculpture.    Music: Desire “A conglomerate work of art that the great director Madarame created with his own funds. These individuals must offer their ideas to the director for the rest of their lives. Those who cannot do so have no worth living!” Hey… This is most likely about the plagiarism, right…? In other words, his pupils are his property. He doesn’t even qualify as an artist if this is true. He’s stealing the ideas from talented students in exchange for securing their livelihood. I wondered about those portraits on display… They must all be his “pupils” through his cognition. This even says that they have no worth. Couldn’t this be about the abuse? Madarame will keep them around as long as they’re useful to him, but the moment they’re not...  He did say that he owes Madarame his life for being taken in... When we were at the exhibit, I praised one of the pieces on display. But… Kitagawa-kun acted strange. Maybe that piece was plagiarized too... What’s the call? Ain’t this enough to target Madarame!?  Hold on, you two. We should confirm these facts with Yusuke once more. Confirm what though!? It means we should get solid evidence that such crimes actually took place. What a pain in the rear end... Besides, there’s too much we don’t know about Madarame yet.That’s true. We haven’t seen that much of his Palace, and this rabbit hole’s only getting deeper. ...Mm, you’re right. I’ll try contacting Kitagawa-kun. I might be able to get the truth out of him if I accept his modeling offer.  I love whenever Morgana’s eyes go tiny from shock. A famous, renowned artist, huh? This might be tougher than Kamoshida. Well, we’ll just prep ourselves until we get confirmation from Yusuke. This is our first mission as real phantom thieves. We’re gonna succeed no matter what!Music: Beneath the Mask    I’m not so sure anymore.  Something wrong? I mean, I know Madarame is a bad person, but still… Maybe I’m so hesitant because I haven’t actually met any of his victims. Yeah, I guess that part’s totally different from what happened with Kamoshida. This might be an extreme line of thinking… But if an evil person isn’t causing any trouble now… Is there really a point in us stepping in? Well… you got a point. Yeah… I guess we could talk some more after that. OK. Let’s meet in Shibuya after school tomorrow.Looks like it’s all about what Yusuke wants to do. Somehow, considering the interaction we had earlier today, I don’t see this going in our favor...   Detective… You’ve got me. I’ll confess. I was the one who killed him. Huh, he figured it out pretty fast. I wonder if actual investigations are like this.Morgana’s the kind of person who watches Detective Conan for its gritty realism. Arist fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Apr 28, 2018 |
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Huh, this sounds a lot closer to Greed than my first two guesses. That's not what I would have guessed.
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Never seen anyone do anything less I still feel bad for Morgana, because its a kitty
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DeafNote posted:
I patted softly because Morgana is my friend and he knows where I sleep. 
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W.T. Fits posted:I patted softly because Morgana is my friend and he knows where I sleep.
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DeafNote posted:
I suppose I do feel kinda bad (because I have a little black and white myself), but... he's still a pompous tit who makes trouble, so I mash that button without guilt.
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If it wasn't for the abuse, I'd say this is a fairly minor thing for them to get involved in. Artistically it's dishonest and terrible, but it doesn't seem nearly as heinous as Kamoshida without the "I beat up the kids who don't draw for me" angle.
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The fact that his distortion is major enough to earn a palace is a sign that there is something really hosed up in the way Madarame views the world. Add in his cultural status and he makes a pretty good first target that isn't out of pure survival instinct.
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Wanna say that Madarame thinks his pupils are an extension of his will as if he literally painted them into existence.
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The button mash option was indeed the best option we could have chosen for that scene on the train.
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Rangpur posted:I button mashed because he never lets me forget it. drat straight brotha. If ya don't button mash the cat, you...ah...gently caress.
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For each of these students (and there are a hell of a lot of them) Madarame completely destroyed any chance they had of making a living off their talents. Nakanohara is just one of them. There's more than one homeless person you can find (and who have been seen in the LP) whose lives were destroyed by Madarame. So it's not a minor thing.
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Ah I get it, Madarame is an talent vampire who literally sucks them out of his pupils and then dumps them in the streets, makes sense now
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If you pet softly, the cat likes it. Naturally. I haven't picked the pet forcefully option, but button mashing is best. Anyway. Madarame at least acts like a decent guy, unlike our former P.E teacher. It doesn't make him better, but at least he's not being rage inducing in his every appearance. He's a pretty bad guy of course. And his excuse and handling of the stuff we accused him off wasn't bad at all. Good acting, old man. Yusuke's voice acting whenever he notices us with Ann is great. I love it.
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Part 29: 5/16-5/18: Blackmail! Music: Beneath the Mask   I just can’t forgive Madarame, but what Ann said made me think… To Yusuke, are we just a bunch of thugs? I knew it… It ain’t like he thinks it is! Pisses me off just thinkin’ about it! Good people have to put up with so much crap while lovely adults do whatever they want. Makes me sick. I’m not wrong… am I? Aww yeah! Don’t tell Ann I called you, by the way. Seriously. Well, see you tomorrow.Ryuji seems pumped. Good to know.  Music: So Boring  Still waiting for his response. Can you at least try to take this seriously? Look, you don’t gotta go all out for this. You’re only doing it so you can get dirt on Madarame, remember? That is true. It sounds like Kitagawa-kun wants this to be a private picture of his though… Well, I guess I’ll let you guys know when he contacts me again.Music: Wicked Plan  Perfect. He prolly changed his plans immediately just so he could get you over there. We need to find out from Kitagawa-kun if what we saw in the Palace was true... Hey, quiet down. It’s that student council president. Yikes… She got hold of Mishima today? It’d suck if she noticed us. C’mon, let’s split up. OK, see you later. C’mon, let’s get some dirt on Madarame. But man… Ann’s late. I was thinking about some things and didn’t notice how much time had passed. Thinkin’ about what…? Don’t you think Kitagawa-kun has to be protecting Madarame? I mean they live together, so he’d have to be aware of Madarame’s true nature. The only reason I can think for him doing that is that Madarame has something on him…Or maybe he’s in on it! Yeah, that’s weird. But that’s why we’re goin’ to check it out, right? You ready to be a model? Yeah, I’m prepared. Whaddya mean prepared? Prepared for what? Something seem different about her to you? Ooh, nice eye! I didn’t cut them. H-Huh. Well… let’s get goin’.And so this mystery will go forever unsolved. We gotta talk to Yusuke. Kitagawa-kun seemed really happy when I agreed to be his model. Once he finishes drawing and gets a little friendlier, we should bring up Madarame.Music: My Homie  It’s amusing that Yusuke keeps getting upset that we’re showing up, but he should really be realizing by now that Ann is a Power-type Stand that can’t exist more than a few meters outside of our presence, and that joke was absolutely not worth the laborious effort it took to make even for the few of you who got it. Wouldn’t you get nervous too, if it was just the two of us? We’re here to keep an eye on you, so don’t try anything perverted, ‘kay? Stop making such odd assumptions. I have absolutely no interest in her as someone of the opposite sex. Is there a problem? ...No, not really. Well then, let’s get started.About ten seconds later...  Kitagawa-kun? …... You hear her? …... …It’s no use. This isn’t what we planned! We were gonna catch him off guard and make him spill his beans, weren’t we? How were we supposed to know this was gonna happen…? Guess we just gotta wait ‘til he’s done… What an effin’ pain in the rear end... Perhaps I should try going outside this room... Heh, who do you think you’re talking to?  It’s weird how flashy that door is… And… is that a lock? A door with a hefty lock… What could be in there? It’s no good… ...What? I’m sorry… Am I the problem? No, not at all. It’s just… I’m having trouble staying focused today. I’m sorry, but we’ll have to resume this another time... I’m sorry… We had another reason for seeing you today… We needed to talk to you.Music: Disquiet It’s about those rumors regarding your sensei. That painting I saw at the exhibit… You’re the one who actually painted it, right? That’s… I knew it. Your sensei’s seriously messed up. He just thinks of his pupils as tools. That’s why he doesn’t give a drat whether he steals their work or physically beats them. I’ll make this clear, there’s no point in hidin’ stuff from us. Hahaha… I have no idea what you’re talking about... You couldn’t go against him, could you? I’m sure we can help you out though… Stop it...  Maaku’s got the “!?” going on too, but we can’t see it due to the vignetting. Don’t misunderstand me though. I offered my ideas to him myself. As such, it can’t be called plagiarism. Sensei is simply suffering from artist’s block right now. Dude, still…! Kitagawa-kun... Then why’re you stickin’ around!? All his other pupils ran away! Aren’t you the only one left!? There are no victims here! Stop pushing your self-centered righteousness on me! ……! I’m supporting Sensei as his pupil. Where’s the wrong in that?  Then you leave me with no choice... I’m reporting you to the police. I asked Takamaki-san to be my model today, but I don’t recall ever calling you two here! What the eff, man!? Ryuji! Stop it! Calm down, OK Dammit…! I won’t report you… but only under one condition. What’s that? I want you to continue being my model, Takamaki-san. But you said that it wasn’t working out today... That’s because I was unconsciously being modest for your sake… However, I have nothing to worry about anymore. If you’re willing to bare everything to me... Uh-oh! Seems like the Phantom Thieves have gotten themselves into yet another wacky situation!  Music: My Homie   Of course, you two won’t be allowed in, and I ask that you forget about our discussion today, as well. If I don’t submit a new piece to Sensei soon, there will be some… inconveniences. Because those are my terms.Sweet blackmail, bro. But that’s-- Wait, ain’t that bad!? (to himself) Sensei is out during the afternoon while the art exhibit is on, so I can use this place freely… I should buy more art supplies... Will you give me a second here!? Of course, I’m willing to wait. I’ll make time according to your plans. But, please come before the exhibit ends. No! That’s not what I mean! Why are you not listening…! Sensei will be returning home soon. We’re done for today. Takamaki-san. I’ll be waiting for you to contact me. No no no! We are not done talking here! Hey… What should we do?  Maaku is getting a headache from this poo poo. Yeah… Dammit. He got us good this time. Don’t give up so easily!So, to recap: currently, a teenage girl who has been previously sexually harrased, trying to protest against a situation that also makes her uncomfortable sexually, is being completely ignored by the (otherwise sympathetic) character putting her in this situation, as well as her friends. This scene is kind of a clusterfuck of weird, bad decisions. But uh, hey, comedy!   You moron!Ryuji bends down to pick Morgana up. Mraow!?Music: Wicked Plan  How dare that Yusuke…! The way he said it, it’s not gonna be semi, but full-on nude... F-Fu-- F-F-Full nudity…? Lady Ann’s gonna… Drop it! You know, you won’t have to worry about that if we make Madarame confess before the exhibit ends. But Kitagawa-kun thinks he owes his life to him. Is there a need to make Madarame confess? Then, Lady Ann… you’re fine with baring it all!? Madarame’s no different from Kamoshida. That rear end in a top hat’s usin’ Yusuke, who doesn’t have parents. You’re tellin’ me we should just ignore how he’s bein’ treated horribly like the other pupils? No… It is frustrating to leave this along, even if Kitagawa-kun is fine with it himself... You can’t leave it be because you’ve endured a lot yourself, with Kamoshida. ...Yeah. Anyways, we gotta go after this guy. Madarame’s the kind of target we’ve been waiting for. Let’s help Yusuke come to his senses too… before he ends up like us. ...Right. We need to look into Madarame first. There might be tons more stuff that hasn’t been exposed yet, too. It may become easier for us to investigate his Palace if he’s preoccupied with his exhibit. Also, there’s the thing about me modeling! Kitagawa-kun said there’d be “inconveniences” unless he submits a new piece. Maybe that’s going to be announced soon as Madarame’s next work...   We must deal with Madarame, no matter what, before his exhibit ends! Let’s start after school tomorrow. It’ll be a pain if Miss President finds us on the rooftop again, so where to meet up… Let’s see… I guess that walkway-like place in Shibuya would work. It’s near Madarame’s place, too. …Changing our hideout periodically, huh? That’s a plan I don’t mind backing. And just like that, our hideout has changed.  ...Huh? From the looks of things, you don’t seem like the ordinary, stalking fans. Uh…Music: Suspicion Oh, sorry. I should’ve been more clear. I’m actually looking for people that know Madarame’s pupils. There’s this painting, “Sayuri,” that was supposedly stolen in the past. But there’s this rumor that it was taken by one of his pupils in retaliation for being abused. Have you heard anything about that?  I don’t know nothing! I see… There’s no case unless there’s a victim, and if there’s no proof of abuse… I can’t write either. Looks like I’m back to square one. Sorry for taking your time. Hey random high school student, got any hot scoops??? See you then.The woman leaves. ...I guess we should go home for today.Music: Beneath the Mask   Two calls in 24 hours? Geez, Maaku’s Mr. Popular. I just want to know what kind of sociopath still uses a phone to call people.  Oh, of course.  I have some interesting news. Someone who received a change of heart contacted me on the Phan-Site. Said he wants to meet with you to discuss another person who needs a change of heart. You’re better off talking to him in person if you want specifics. All I know is his target is a terrible person. And that it might complicate things if he posted the name online. I’ll have him wait for you at Shibuya Station after school.Um, Mishima, why are you referring people to meet us in person? You’re new to this whole discretion thing, huh? The guy’s name is “Nakanohara.” Nakanohara… That’s Madarame’s student.Nakanohara! It seems like this can only be about one thing... I told him to approach you. Good luck.  That journalist was looking into Madarame too. It could be real. Someone died though. No one’s talking about it… I bet it was covered up. I wonder if Kitagawa-kun has heard anything… It’d be great if he could come help us out. Ain’t that asking a bit much? After today, he’s prolly gonna be on edge about us. Well anyway, Madarame’s still a piece of crap! Let’s meet up tomorrow. It’ll be our first time at the new hideout. It’s that passageway in Shibuya, right? Got it. See you guys tomorrow. If the rumor Ryuji just spoke of is true, there have to be other victims...  This scandal has rocked the sports world—everyone ever involved with him is being pressed for answers. The volleyball association is currently considering banning him permanently, and... Drummed out of the volleyball association, eh? Well, he deserves it. Music: Tokyo Daylight  Speaking of Shibuya, didn’t Mishima say Nakanohara would be there, now, too? Music: Suspicion We’re about to head to the hideout too. Who’s that…? That’s Nakanohara. Mishima told us to meet him here in Shibuya today. For real…? ...My name is Nakanohara. Natsuhiko Nakanohara, the one who was posted about on the Phantom Aficionado Website. He seems pretty nice. Doesn’t seem like the stalker type. I think the change of heart must have worked. The administrator of that website contacted me… They told me to look for someone in a Shujin uniform with a cat... So? Whaddya want? You may have already heard, but there’s someone I wish to trigger a change of heart in. ...An artist by the name of Madarame.Music: Disquiet  Ooh, you think this is it? Is the pupil gonna confess his master’s secrets? His Shadow did mention Madarame as well... I’m… one of Madarame’s former pupils. He gave me lodging at his home, where I thought only about art. I genuinely wanted to be an artist… There was another pupil as well. A very talented man, multiple years my senior. Obviously, Madarame kept tabs on him. Everything he made was claimed as a Madarame original. He wasn’t the only victim though… All right, we got some real proof of the plagiarism. In response to Madarame’s actions… that senior pupil committed suicide. He must have been unable to bear seeing his work praised under Madarame’s name. That was when I disobeyed Madarame’s pleas and left. ...But he quickly pressured other parts of the art world, and my life as a painter was destroyed. I tried to turn over a new leaf working at a ward office… but it was no use. My attachment to art warped my emotions. Soon I began getting attached to everything… In the end, I even turned into a stalker… Ha… Haha…Nice supervillain origin story you got there. ...I’d like to ask again. Please, make Madarame have a change of heart. Not only for me. It’s… to save the life of another man as well. Even now, there is still one young man remaining under Madarame’s tutelage. I think he’s about your age. That has to be Yusuke. Not only is he a talented artist, he also owes Madarame for taking him in after his mother passed… He is the perfect target. I actually spoke to him a few times back when I was still living at Madarame’s. I asked him if he found it painful to stay with Madarame… and do you know what he said? “If I could leave, I would...” Kitagawa-kun... I have no right to say this given my prior cowardice, but I don’t want to see another suicide…! I’d like to find a way to save this young man. He has a bright future ahead of him… Please consider that when thinking about changing Madarame’s heart.Nakanohara leaves. I guess he just knows we’re the loving Phantom Thieves now.  It sounds like we don’t have the time to deliberate whether or not to change Madarame’s heart. Yeah, let’s save the dude who’s blackmailing us! Hell yeah! Madarame’s just a piece of poo poo who preys on the weak! Plus, we finally got to hear how Kitagawa-kun really feels! Well, since we’ve reached a unanimous decision, how about we continue this at our new hideout?Music: Tokyo Emergency   We all saw that Palace. We’ll pay dearly if we assume it’s just going to be like the last one. And furthermore… Lady Ann’s chastity is on the line!You know, I came into this update not thinking much of this weird plotline except that it was really silly and dumb and not that great, but these jokes are actually pushing me over the edge and now all I can think about is the word “regrettable.”  We’ll need to do what we did with Kamoshida. First, we secure an infiltration route in the Palace. After that, we send our calling card. Once the Treasure has materialized, we steal it. Oooh, I got a question! Madarame doesn’t know that we were doin’ stuff in the Palace yet. Why are we already gettin’ treated like criminals in there? You’re learning, Ryuji. Well done. It must be because he doesn’t trust anyone. Any unknown person may as well be an enemy. Or maybe he’s just super salty from all those rumors that have been spreading about him…I’m super salty that I just heard the words “super salty” in this motherfucking video game. Then his Palace bein’ so crazy had nothing to do with us…? Either way, we should stay on our best behavior. It’ll be harder for us to steal the Treasure if we needlessly increase the security level. We need to be careful of Kitagawa-kun this time too. I’m sure that whatever he sees will just get passed on to Madarame. That’s right! Hey, what is Madarame’s Treasure going to look like anyway? Another crown? I’d doubt that. But my sixth sense will know when I see it. Oh yeah, you go completely nuts, huh. Our time limit is when the exhibit ends, right? That means… June 5th. We’ll carry out the plan after we’ve sent out the calling card. So, our infiltration route will need to be set in stone two days prior, on June 2nd. Now listen here. We can’t mess this up, NO MATTER WHAT! OK!?Time to get to work. Arist fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Aug 16, 2019 |
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Arist posted:Uh-oh! Seems like the Phantom Thieves have gotten themselves into yet another wacky situation! D'you know, I could hear the laugh track and studio applause after you said this line. This series is so weird that way: genuine cosmic horror, existential dread, and pathos regarding man's inhumanity to man bumping up against waaaaaaaaacky high-school sit-com shenanigans! :iamafag: And the silent protagonist is in yet more hot water because his companions can't keep their big mouths shut (and he can't open his unless allowed). Clunky, but I don't actually find it so annoying here, because recall that these kids are still pretty far from their ideal character developments still. Yusuke might be being a dick here (and yeah, he kinda is), but you need to remember he's just only met these guys a few days ago- he has no reason or desire to bear all his dark poo poo to total strangers, especially two idiots who can't take a hint... an issue not really helped by Ryuji failing to understand the sometimes quite complicated feelings abuse victims can have for their abusers (Ryuji failing to understand things is... something of a running theme, you'll find  ). The relationship between the characters here is kinda jagged, even in comparison to other Persona games (especially 4), but honestly, I dig it- it feels, well, a lot more authentic in how meetings between such characters would actually go down. Even if the characters in question are more caricatures...
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Jul 7, 2017 22:18
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Ah I see, they needed an excuse for the in-game time limit so they went with expose nude thing, makes sense in a retarded way
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Jul 7, 2017 22:51
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On its own the nude model stuff would just come across as a little skeezy, but having it center on a victim of sexual harassment seems really tone deaf. Also it seems weird that the flash-forwards with Sae specifically call out Madarame as being evil, and then you're still forced to go through the motions of "gee could Madarame really be evil?!" Kinda sucks the tension out of it
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Jul 7, 2017 23:17
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Chapter 1: A guy uses a threat of power to force a girl into doing activity with her clothes off with him that she's not comfortable with. This is played for drama. Chapter 2: A guy uses a threat of power to force a girl into doing activity with her clothes off with him that she's not comfortable with. This is played for comedy. At least it's not Ultra Despair Girls level of cringe.
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Jul 7, 2017 23:31
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This is one of those times where I wonder if Yusuke's disposition would've been any different if they told him what they went through with Kamoshida, and used that with the rumors going around on Madarame, in a somewhat, "We've been through this crap before, we're here to make absolutely sure nothing bad happens to our friend".
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Jul 7, 2017 23:50
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If Kamoshida was a mic drop, this section is P5 tripping over the cord and stumbling head first into a portapotty.
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Jul 7, 2017 23:53
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Yeah this part is just bad and skeevy. Everything that happened with Kamoshida makes this even worse.
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Magic Fanatic posted:This is one of those times where I wonder if Yusuke's disposition would've been any different if they told him what they went through with Kamoshida, and used that with the rumors going around on Madarame, in a somewhat, "We've been through this crap before, we're here to make absolutely sure nothing bad happens to our friend". They probably should have come out and told him, at least told him Ann's history with Kamoshida. As an artist surrounding himself in his art, it's possible he's been isolated enough not to hear about the scandal, and even if he did there's no reason for him to think these brats were in the middle of it. Yusuke's missing key information in this exchange, and it paints him in a worse light to the viewer. It's a lack of communication dictated by author fiat to keep the plot going. It happens in plenty of stories, and it's annoying every time.
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Kevos Setzer posted:They probably should have come out and told him, at least told him Ann's history with Kamoshida. As an artist surrounding himself in his art, it's possible he's been isolated enough not to hear about the scandal, and even if he did there's no reason for him to think these brats were in the middle of it. He might not care though as he is already starting to break due to what Madarame is doing to him.
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Leveling with him probably wouldn't have gotten him to turn on Madarame either, but it may have at least not escalated like Ryuji yelling accusations did, and just ended with him saying to not come back.
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Jul 8, 2017 00:44
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Arist posted:It’s amusing that Yusuke keeps getting upset that we’re showing up, but he should really be realizing by now that Ann is a Power-type Stand that can’t exist more than a few meters outside of our presence, and that joke was absolutely not worth the laborious effort it took to make even for the few of you who got it.
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Jul 8, 2017 03:00
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Don't let discussions about culpability distract you from Ann's stalker blackmailing her into sexual harassment. Like, he could have asked for cash, but no, he's gotta threaten a girl and her friends so she'll get naked for him.
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Jul 8, 2017 03:07
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GeneX posted:Don't let distractions about culpability distract you from Ann's stalker blackmailing her into sexual harassment. Like, he could have asked for cash, but no, he's gotta threaten a girl and her friends so she'll get naked for him. No one is saying what he is doing isn't lovely. Instead people are saying that his own position is also really lovely.
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Jul 8, 2017 03:19
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This whole plotline is really weird and creepy and also makes no goddamn sense for Yusuke as a character which is just another reason to hate it.
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Jul 8, 2017 03:33
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Sexual implications aside, a guy who you're supposed to sympathize with suddenly turning into a blackmailer is not exactly endearing.
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Jul 8, 2017 03:36
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In Yusuke's defense on the blackmail front, he's subject to one very, very bad influence in his life as far as legal forthrightness goes. Also, he suffers from a critical deficit of common sense, due to having such an artistic disposition. He sincerely doesn't get what's wrong with this scenario (nor do the writers, clearly, despite the surface-level awareness they showed in the previous arc). It's Maaku and Ryuji who have no excuses.
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Jul 8, 2017 03:49
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It's really just a case of the character making a bad first impression. I'd say more but it relies on knowledge of Yusuke we won't have for a few updates.
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Jul 8, 2017 03:52
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There's a few spots in the game where I'm 90% sure they changed the plot/characters/game mechanics after writing something, and never went back and updated it to match what they wrote later. This is one of them.
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I defended the game with the kamoshida and creepy fixation on Anne before as being a portrayal of how girls are often treated in the gaming world, but this update tells me they weren't that clever. Is the Japanese version as bad or is this some weird localisation thing?
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