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That might be it for Scalisequote:WASHINGTON — The Washington hospital where House Majority Whip Steve Scalise is recuperating from a gunshot wound says he has been readmitted to the intensive care unit. https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...m=.dbbd2e23f76d that's no bueno
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I really hope that fucker doesn't die. Mostly because the right will use it as a rallying cry in 2018 but also because I don't want to see open season on Congressman of any stripe. He's a fucker though.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:49
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Yeah, if he dies things are going to get so much worse than before. Hard to imagine how, but it seems almost guaranteed.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:51
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Pakled posted:I mean, legally probably not, but man our media's already controlled by a shrinking number of enormous conglomerates, anything to keep them from getting bigger and richer is good. Under a hypothetical merger, it would be the same people running it. AT&T does not have a cable news channel, weekly magazine, or channel full of gay teens with lots of drama, so there isn't going to be a net reduction of any media outlets or change in the number of companies running them.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:51
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Hopefully this just means he gets held on the cusp of life and death where he can suffer the most without giving the republicans what they want more than anything, which is his death.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:51
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So apparently not running for president Zuck is pro UBI: http://www.businessinsider.de/mark-zuckerberg-universal-basic-income-alaska-2017-7?r=US&IR=T
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Jul 6, 2017 03:52
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FizFashizzle posted:That might be it for Scalise Hospital infections are motherfuckers. My dad was in the hospital for 3 months due to an infection contracted after his cancer surgery. His liver and kidneys will never be the same again. Best case scenario is Scalise survives but can no longer hold office.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:54
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maskenfreiheit posted:So apparently not running for president Zuck is pro UBI: lol though quote:"First, it's funded by natural resources rather than raising taxes," he wrote. "Second, it comes from conservative principles of smaller government, rather than progressive principles of a larger safety net. This shows basic income is a bipartisan idea." I'm pretty ambivalent about UBI in general, but this is basically the worst direction to approach the idea from. edit- actually, that's not true. the plan to use a carbon "dividend" as a bribe to deregulate polluting industries is actually the worst, but this is close.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:55
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If Scalise dies it will be a significant propaganda point for our nazis, which is bad. If Scalise dies I will not shed a single tear, but I would rather he be punched and humiliated than assassinated.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:56
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Pakled posted:I mean, legally probably not, but man our media's already controlled by a shrinking number of enormous conglomerates, anything to keep them from getting bigger and richer is good. Holy poo poo you guys have no idea. Please dont become Canada or the UK and have 2-3 evil media barons controlling everything.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:57
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Paradoxish posted:lol though Lol that reasoning. In conclusion, UBI is a land of contrasts
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Jul 6, 2017 03:57
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Boon posted:I really hope that fucker doesn't die. Republicans use anything and everything that they can get their hands on as a rallying cry. They always find something, some reason or excuse, to show up and vote for Republicans every time. It won't matter if Scalise lives or dies, so I hope that he just dies.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:58
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Does Zuckerberg support nationalization of our oil and gas industry? (How does the Alaska oil industry work? How is taxation not involved? How is UBI not an example of a social safety net? I'm very confused.)
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Furnaceface posted:Holy poo poo you guys have no idea. Please dont become Canada or the UK and have 2-3 evil media barons controlling everything. I mean we're already at 6 companies controlling everything, that's pretty close already.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:59
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Xyven posted:Lol that reasoning. perhaps the truth is in the middle and instead of providing a UBI, the Zuck proposes a radical new idea: maybe we should subsidize food, housing, and healthcare for our poorest citizens!
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Jul 6, 2017 03:59
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Edible Hat posted:Does Zuckerberg support nationalization of our oil and gas industry? (How does the Alaska oil industry work? How is taxation not involved? How is UBI not an example of a social safety net? I'm very confused.) Are you surprised that the CEO of Facebook was given presented with a small bit of information and formed strong opinions based on it without extensive critical thought? 🤔
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Jul 6, 2017 04:00
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Pakled posted:I mean, legally probably not, but man our media's already controlled by a shrinking number of enormous conglomerates, anything to keep them from getting bigger and richer is good. Tv itself is dying though. You can't even compare ratings pre and post 2000 because they changed so much, like the last episode of ALF had twice the viewers of the last episode of LOST because everyone used watch the same three channels, now everyone watches unboxing videos on youtube or their 540 cable channels and basically only the superbowl gets a fraction of the viewers every show used to get regularly.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:03
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FizFashizzle posted:That might be it for Scalise I hope he survives, has his heath insurance coverage denied, then dies from a heart attack when he sees the bill
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Jul 6, 2017 04:03
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maskenfreiheit posted:So apparently not running for president Zuck is pro UBI: My god, can't Zuck pay for some drugs that bulks him up a little bit.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:04
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FizFashizzle posted:That might be it for Scalise Fffffffffffffuck Incoming Prester Jane post about narratives. But, this time, she'd probably would not be engaging in hyperbole.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:05
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Edible Hat posted:Does Zuckerberg support nationalization of our oil and gas industry? (How does the Alaska oil industry work? How is taxation not involved? How is UBI not an example of a social safety net? I'm very confused.) The conservative argument for a UBI is that you gut all social services to make it happen. You don't need a safety net, according to conservatives, because people will just take that money and either make good financial decisions or die. It's a horrific implementation of the idea unless your UBI is absolutely massive since people still need access to education, healthcare, etc. that's probably completely unaffordable on even a fairly generous UBI. That said, it's pretty legit to say that the UBI itself isn't part of the social safety net. A good implementation wouldn't be intended to catch people when they fall so much as to provide a comfortable foundation to build off of. The idea that everyone gets the money no matter how much they "deserve" it is pretty core to the concept.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:05
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FizFashizzle posted:That might be it for Scalise Thoughts and prayers. Since that's all the kids from Newtown got I don't see why he deserves better. Still don't want him to die.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:07
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Xae posted:School Lunch should be free. Subsidized via means-testing up to 110%.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:07
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Perhaps he is saying popular buzzwords to try to raise his profile without putting actual thought into his plans 
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Jul 6, 2017 04:07
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My hot take on Scalise. LOL regressive line up to shove non regressives into ovens. Non regressives have arguments on tone policing.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:07
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empty whippet box posted:Hopefully this just means he gets held on the cusp of life and death where he can suffer the most without giving the republicans what they want more than anything, which is his death. Jerking off to people's suffering is super hosed up, and it's embarrassing that poo poo like this is tolerated.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:08
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Boon posted:I really hope that fucker doesn't die. I mean, he already got shot, how much worse can things be if this shithead dies? Nobody actually cares about his worthless life, just the incident, and I don't see how him living or dying drastically changes the narrative.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:09
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Sinteres posted:Jerking off to people's suffering is super hosed up, and it's embarrassing that poo poo like this is tolerated. Nazis are people too! ~When they go low, we go high~
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Jul 6, 2017 04:10
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There's a good argument that UBI is "conservative" because it reduces bureaucratic (mis)management and is not means-tested. However, in practice, it is far to the left of anything mainstream politicians are proposing: Swiss voters voted it down pretty handily and the socialist presidential candidate advocating for it in France received 5 percent of the vote.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:11
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Turns out republicans have such bad health that any bullet wound could be fatal no matter where it hits. Wonder how much of his money and life is being helped either by tax payer money or ACA.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:11
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Pellisworth posted:Nazis are people too! Not wanting somebody to be half dead in a state of tortured existence due to a would-be assassin's bullet makes me too soft for the revolution I guess. Too bad. Are you consistent enough to favor torturing terrorists too, or just political opponents? I don't think torture is good in either case because I have this crazy idea that human rights matter.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:12
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Autism Sneaks posted:I mean, he already got shot, how much worse can things be if this shithead dies? Nobody actually cares about his worthless life, just the incident, and I don't see how him living or dying drastically changes the narrative. Remember the Alamo. Liberty or Death. There is no Land Beyond Volga. Right or wrong, there is an emotional impact and sense of justice or vengeance in a 'tragedy.' Injuries aren't tragic. Boon fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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Sinteres posted:Not wanting somebody to be half dead in a state of tortured existence due to a would-be assassin's bullet makes me too soft for the revolution I guess. Too bad. Are you consistent enough to favor torturing terrorists too, or just political opponents? I don't think torture is good in either case because I have this crazy idea that human rights matter. Find something more worthwhile to handwring about.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Thoughts and prayers. Since that's all the kids from Newtown got I don't see why he deserves better. Still don't want him to die. I heard someone's best friend's sister's boyfriend say that there is no Scalise and he's actually a crisis actor.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:17
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Scalise whipped for the AHCA. Had a few votes gone the other way then it would have failed.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:19
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Sinteres posted:Not wanting somebody to be half dead in a state of tortured existence due to a would-be assassin's bullet makes me too soft for the revolution I guess. Too bad. Are you consistent enough to favor torturing terrorists too, or just political opponents? I don't think torture is good in either case because I have this crazy idea that human rights matter. I'm ambivalent about Scalise's fate. I'm not advocating political violence, but I'm also not going to defend that piece of poo poo. Comparing this to torturing (suspected) terrorists is a strawman. That is the state torturing people when torture has been conclusively proven ineffective. Shooting politicians isn't cool but if you're playing tone police about Scalise possibly dying, you're defending the dignity and honor of Nazis. So, y'know.
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Sinteres posted:Not wanting somebody to be half dead in a state of tortured existence due to a would-be assassin's bullet makes me too soft for the revolution I guess. Too bad. Are you consistent enough to favor torturing terrorists too, or just political opponents? I don't think torture is good in either case because I have this crazy idea that human rights matter. there are no intrinsic human rights, we live in a godless soulless cosmos, I want Putin, Trump, Assad, Saud, Kim, Erdorgan, Netanyahu, and every one of these sickos to get the most painful form of stomach cancer imaginable because their power and wealth insulates them from any other earthly punishment and there's no eternal fire waiting for them
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Jul 6, 2017 04:22
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Pellisworth posted:I'm ambivalent about Scalise's fate. I'm not advocating political violence, but I'm also not going to defend that piece of poo poo. People are throwing Nazi around pretty freely these days, but even under your premise that Scalise is literally a Nazi, do you think we should have tortured the Nuremberg defendants for decades before we executed them? I'm not defending Scalise, but psychopath jerkoff fantasies about endless suffering for people we think are bad should be left to religion, not politics.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:23
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I just want him to go be David Duke without the lifespan instead.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:this was part of the plot of The Yiddish Policeman's Union That's a great book. I'm pretty sure I posted about it (the third temple/encouraging the end times thing) here back in 05-6 and got dogpiled about believing conspiracy nonsense lol
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