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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Woozy posted:

:qq: Abloo bloo bloo why can't I both be a leftist and also never change my way of thinking about things or any of my current political opinions? Why won't these freaking STALINISTS respect my lifelong habit of reactionary and purely discursive politics that consist entirely of self-righteous posturing :qq:

:nallears:

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some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

R. Guyovich posted:

social democracy isn't leftism

That's a really bad opinion

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
Isn't there some really trite left wing politics thread in D&D you guys can take this boring crap to.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



LinYutang posted:

sad but fun fact, Bernie Sanders memes have done more for the growth of Western leftism than the entirety of effort spent by western communist parties in the last 30 years

Tbf for the past 30 years they've been actively and brutally suppressed by the CIA

That being said if someone can argue the differences between trots and Stalinists to a union worker without getting a noogie id be more inclined to hear them out

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

Lumpy the Cook posted:

Isn't there some really trite left wing politics thread in D&D you guys can take this boring crap to.

yeah i store them all here

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Crane Fist posted:

That's a really bad opinion

liberals = want to maintain the institution of private property
leftists = do not

simple enough to follow

please everyone continue to pretend people who do organizing work hash this stuff out in front of joe hardhat

Woozy
Jan 3, 2006

Dreddout posted:

Protip: this line unambigously appeals to more of America's youth than "Stalin did nothing wrong" irregardless of if Stalin actually did something wrong (we just don't know!)

Who loving cares? America's youth are the same pack of bloodthirsty labor aristocrats their parents were and nothing on the entire planet earth could possibly matter less than what they think about literally anything. Conditions move politics, not the polished rhetoric of incurable liberal parasites who think this its all just a big game of finding the correct configuration of optics, PR, messaging, and electoral maneuvers. Nothing could be a bigger waste of time. You can't be a socialist and yet continue to go back to huffing this industrial grade idealism trying to Rational Discourse your way to a movement. The DSA ranks are staffed entirely by people who think socialism is imperialism + healthcare and that's exactly how its going to stay until these idiots start getting drafted again.

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Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

R. Guyovich posted:

liberals = want to maintain the institution of private property
leftists = do not

simple enough to follow

please everyone continue to pretend people who do organizing work hash this stuff out in front of joe hardhat

I was making a joke earlier, but I'm starting to wonder. Seriously, what's your opinion on Lysenkoism?

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Woozy posted:

The DSA ranks are staffed entirely by people who think socialism is imperialism + healthcare

I'm glad of it

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
I am extremely loving down to give everyone free healthcare through the ruthless machinations of imperialism *drops insulin needles out of a B-52 *

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Guy Goodbody posted:

I was making a joke earlier, but I'm starting to wonder. Seriously, what's your opinion on Lysenkoism?

i don't know enough about it to have one

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

R. Guyovich posted:

i don't know enough about it to have one

oh that's priceless

ArgumentatumE.C.T.
Nov 5, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Venom Snake posted:

I am extremely loving down to give everyone free healthcare through the ruthless machinations of imperialism *drops insulin needles out of a B-52 *

hey those could be used for heroin conceivably

why do you love drugs and hate america

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Woozy posted:

Who loving cares? America's youth are the same pack of bloodthirsty labor aristocrats their parents were and nothing on the entire planet earth could possibly matter less than what they think about literally anything. Conditions move politics, not the polished rhetoric of incurable liberal parasites who think this its all just a big game of finding the correct configuration of optics, PR, messaging, and electoral maneuvers. Nothing could be a bigger waste of time. You can't be a socialist and yet continue to go back to huffing this industrial grade idealism trying to Rational Discourse your way to a movement. The DSA ranks are staffed entirely by people who think socialism is imperialism + healthcare and that's exactly how its going to stay until these idiots start getting drafted again.

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

oh that's priceless

oh is it you smug prick

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
I loving hate these effete reactionary intellectuals, maybe there should be some system where people with glasses and city dwellers would be tortured to death or something?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

lol at bashing nationalism after praising Juche and Maoism.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

R. Guyovich posted:

social democracy isn't leftism

not enough genocide for you eh?

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


R. Guyovich posted:

liberals = want to maintain the institution of private property
leftists = do not

simple enough to follow

true

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

What is up with that necktie

Poppyseed Poundcake
Feb 23, 2007
so do leftists want to search everyone's apartment after the revolution and confiscate all the surplus property? will I be allowed to own an Xbox and a ps4? what if I have an extra bedroom, will it be appropriated to house a refugee? do I have to share my food with the refugee?

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

Poppyseed Poundcake posted:

so do leftists want to search everyone's apartment after the revolution and confiscate all the surplus property? will I be allowed to own an Xbox and a ps4? what if I have an extra bedroom, will it be appropriated to house a refugee? do I have to share my food with the refugee?

yes no yes yes

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


your xbone isn't private property jfc

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Poppyseed Poundcake posted:

so do leftists want to search everyone's apartment after the revolution and confiscate all the surplus property? will I be allowed to own an Xbox and a ps4? what if I have an extra bedroom, will it be appropriated to house a refugee? do I have to share my food with the refugee?

you're conflating personal property with private property - the apartment building, the corporation, that sorta stuff

we have six empty homes to every homeless person. the dream is so that every adult can live in a decent one bedroom - so that millenials aren't stuck living with their parents, so women aren't trapped in abusive situations, etc. if there is a need, we can create jobs to build the housing. so sure, keep the extra bedroom. we can give the refugee his own place with a supportive community.

America wastes 40% of its food. we have more than enough to feed ourselves and the refugees. also ideally we'd stop creating refugees by stopping the flood of arms and bombs into the Middle East. hope this helps

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Poppyseed Poundcake posted:

so do leftists want to search everyone's apartment after the revolution and confiscate all the surplus property? will I be allowed to own an Xbox and a ps4? what if I have an extra bedroom, will it be appropriated to house a refugee? do I have to share my food with the refugee?
I want to confiscate your keyboard but that's just so you can't make dumb posts like this

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
launching nukes is faster, easier and a better solution

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
*looks at every other implementation of left wing / society scale socialism*
*sees famine*
*sees people injecting themselves with aids*

i think ill stick with capitalism

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
they always say if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor

im on the net me boys
Feb 19, 2017

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Baloogan posted:

*looks at every other implementation of left wing / society scale socialism*
*sees famine*
*sees people injecting themselves with aids*

i think ill stick with capitalism

What about Cuba bitch

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Baloogan posted:

they always say if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor

This is really disingenuous coming from a dumb Canadian cuck who can choose any doctor that isn't full with patients

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


Jose posted:

launching nukes is faster, easier and a better solution

More sustainable too!

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

whomupclicklike posted:

What about Cuba bitch

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rY8dwx6OxY

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

whomupclicklike posted:

What about Cuba, Yugoslavia, Poland, Albania, Bulgaria, East Germany, China, Vietnam, Laos, the DPRK and the Soviet Union, bitch

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
lol at the list of bad countries, and also countries that don't exist any more

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Poppyseed Poundcake posted:

so do leftists want to search everyone's apartment after the revolution and confiscate all the surplus property? will I be allowed to own an Xbox and a ps4? what if I have an extra bedroom, will it be appropriated to house a refugee? do I have to share my food with the refugee?

you will be sent to the camps for owning an xbox in the first place, gamer-americans are the kulaks of 21st century america

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

vice-dot-com-definitely-real-stories-for-scumbags.avi

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
if communism was one tenth as good as you think it is, then it should have easily conquered the earth :shrug:

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The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


it will conquer this earth unless capitalism destroys it first.

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