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I just bought The Fall cause I was all like, how bad can it be that it's not worth £1.12? Sweet Jesus it sucks so hard its basically upsetting to play.
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Jul 4, 2017 16:15
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What are you talking about, Deus Ex: The Fall is perfectly fine as a ga- 
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Jul 4, 2017 16:25
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Momomo posted:What are you talking about, Deus Ex: The Fall is perfectly fine as a ga- To be fair, it does look a fair bit less wonky after what I assume are a bunch of patches. There's some hilarious re-use of textures though. These pics are across from each other in the same tiny room:   Yep, very natural guys, well done. Also they shoehorn in some references but I don't buy that Gunther would ever insert a smiley face in an email   I'm gonna force myself to finish it though so lets see how much worse this baby gets.
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Jul 4, 2017 16:43
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I've never played the original Deus Ex past the first level, I should get on that. What mods should I use for a vanilla-but-modern / polished experience, if any? The OP was last updated in 2013.
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Jul 4, 2017 18:21
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Woebin posted:I've never played the original Deus Ex past the first level, I should get on that. What mods should I use for a vanilla-but-modern / polished experience, if any? The OP was last updated in 2013.
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Jul 4, 2017 18:31
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Never play vanilla when you can use biomod. That's the only mod you need, though, the rest are mostly better textures/remade models.
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Jul 4, 2017 18:37
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Haha sorry I take it back. I literally just got to that part and saw that guy I am excited to see if it has any semblance of a proper hub or something now. Turns out the first long slog I was on before was literally all prologue. Or possibly the game is about to end on that massive cliffhanger I keep expecting. Also I like to think this isn't a low poly thing but just what Namir's nose looks like after Adam cold-clocked him in the boss fight in HR: 
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Jul 4, 2017 18:55
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Vanilla is the best imo, all the other stuff just adds things you don't need and might make it run slower if you play on a laptop. Even the high res textures add stuff like posters from 2012 celebrities in Paris and stuff. Just random bloat that ends up being out of place
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Jul 5, 2017 00:28
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Its ok if you want to always play biomod from here on out but new players should try vanilla first. They aren't playing it because it's the hot new game with the hot new features.
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Jul 5, 2017 04:44
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lol if you're a "new" deus ex player
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Jul 5, 2017 04:48
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Definitely play vanilla first. The good mods still take out a lot of exploits that might make the game less frustrating if you just want to beat the game.
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Jul 5, 2017 09:27
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Lemon-Lime posted:Never play vanilla when you can use biomod. Yeah, I took people's advice and played vanilla the first time through, and while it wasn't terrible, I kind of wish I had just used mods from the start because playing it vanilla didn't really add anything to my experience.
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Jul 5, 2017 10:07
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Prav posted:lol if you're a "new" deus ex player ???
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Jul 5, 2017 10:35
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blackguy32 posted:Yeah, I took people's advice and played vanilla the first time through, and while it wasn't terrible, I kind of wish I had just used mods from the start because playing it vanilla didn't really add anything to my experience. Not only that, but 90% of what biomod does is balance changes that remove trap options from the game, which will straight up improve your experience as a new player.
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Jul 5, 2017 11:04
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What are the trap options?
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Jul 5, 2017 11:17
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Psycho Society posted:What are the trap options? Swimming.
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Jul 5, 2017 12:09
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Also environmental training. Arguably low-tech weapons.
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Jul 5, 2017 12:26
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That's true, I usually take for granted that I know not to put points into those. Not trying to be Michael Phelps over here
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Jul 5, 2017 15:35
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Lemon-Lime posted:Not only that, but 90% of what biomod does is balance changes that remove trap options from the game, which will straight up improve your experience as a new player.
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Jul 5, 2017 16:29
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I don't know if Swimming counts as a trap option. It's not great, but it's also incredibly cheap to max out. There's no way you won't have enough skill points to upgrade whatever else you want over the course of the game.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:20
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double nine posted:Arguably low-tech weapons. Spoken like someone who opens doors with the doorknob instead of with an energy sword.
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Jul 5, 2017 21:56
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Samuel Clemens posted:I don't know if Swimming counts as a trap option. It's not great, but it's also incredibly cheap to max out. There's no way you won't have enough skill points to upgrade whatever else you want over the course of the game. one level in swimming is so very worth it just for general QOL sure you can get to all the same places without it but it's so much easier with
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Jul 5, 2017 22:18
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I agree with that. Hyperspecializing in swimming is a waste, but for just 600xp or whatever it is, it's some tiny amount, it's absolutely worth a single rank in swimming. There are a quite a few areas that are best accessed via water, and while you can get to all of them without taking any points in swimming because of rebreather/aqualung/regeneration, for such a small investment it's worth it.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:31
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The problem is not that swimming is expensive, it's that it's uninteresting. Biomod doesn't make it cheaper, it replaces it with a skill that does more.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:35
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double nine posted:Arguably low-tech weapons. No.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:40
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Doc Hawkins posted:The problem is not that swimming is expensive, it's that it's uninteresting. Biomod doesn't make it cheaper, it replaces it with a skill that does more. What does biomod replace it with? Ok, fine. I'd forgotten about the dragon tooth sword, it's been a long time since I played.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:18
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I put some points into swimming the first time I played because I couldn't find out how to get into the sub hanger in the underwater base, so I just swam into the exit.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:22
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double nine posted:What does biomod replace it with? Athletics. It boosts swim speed, run speed, jump height...I believe it also enables mantling? I dunno, there's a detailed readme if you want the exact answer. What I remember is that it's fun and helps with all kinds of playstyles and approaches.
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Jul 5, 2017 23:27
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Doesn't Biomod gimp the Dragons Tooth so it's no longer a viable lockpick though?
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Jul 5, 2017 23:49
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it lockpicks some stuff, but not everything. 10 damage (*10) to a crowbars 12 iirc. something like that, anyway.
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Jul 6, 2017 00:01
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Would you still have to download half a dozen weird mods when GMDX becomes available?
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Jul 6, 2017 02:42
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I was tinkering around with Revision. I haven't played it enough to tender any informed opinions, but I liked that they set it up on Steam to include Biomod and/or Shifter. There were a bunch of ways to alter the game as well, but most were just to make the game harder. The one that I did like and did enable was the one that makes anything you pick up only take up one inventory square. That was a good idea as it makes things like the GEP gun feasible.
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I always preferred items taking up 1-3 slots, unless it is for games with dressing paper dolls. Two slots for weapons anyone uses and three for the shitkicker stuff. GEP uses 8 slots and needs more slots for the other kinds of ammo, for what is basically a ranged lockpick. The regular rocket launcher uses half the space and only slightly overkills most enemies.
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jojoinnit posted:Doesn't Biomod gimp the Dragons Tooth so it's no longer a viable lockpick though? Scalding Coffee posted:I always preferred items taking up 1-3 slots, unless it is for games with dressing paper dolls. Two slots for weapons anyone uses and three for the shitkicker stuff. GEP uses 8 slots and needs more slots for the other kinds of ammo, for what is basically a ranged lockpick. The regular rocket launcher uses half the space and only slightly overkills most enemies.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:04
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All that button does is turn on the flashlight aug.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:14
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You're just 1 key off from the right one, then.
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Honestly if you're new to the game in 2017 chances are you wont replay it ever again, no matter how much you like it. So play with Biomod or Shifter to get some quality of life improvements
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Jul 6, 2017 05:51
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So it sounds like Biomod is the primary mod choice according to most, with some arguing that one should play vanilla the first time through. I can see the validity of that, but I think I played vanilla the previous times I tried to get into the game so I'll probably give Biomod a shot. Thanks!
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Throwing my vote for Biomod being better than vanilla. The only reason you should play vanilla is if you really want to experience what the game was like before we had mods, which would make you a huge sperg so I wouldn't recommend it.
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I can't imagine playing without any of the starter mods that make the game not look like complete rear end on old systems. That is grognard poo poo.
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