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jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Attila, like Rome 2, had a lot of flaws. It's not a terrible game, I'll give it that.

There's no incentive to give a poo poo about the political.. system.. thing because if you do it well enough and gain a bunch of power, you still get hit with a bunch of factionwide debuffs and penalties, because why not.

The food mechanics in Attila, like most mechanics, is not very intuitive or explained well. Each province needs to be self-sufficient food wise, because roads and carts and trade between neighbors within an empire wasn't invented I guess. You can have a 500 food surplus, but if one province is consuming 5 more food than it produces, it's a starving province.

Then the best part is, a good chunk of the world will be unpopulated ruins because of the various hordes, which makes the painting the map part of the game extra boring.

I'm very glad that CA made TW:W as good as it is because this was a poor showing. I'm glad I played it though weirdly enough.

Maybe playing as a horde is funner than playing as a "normal" faction, but probably not.

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Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer
Play as the huns, burn everything, civilization is for the weak :sherman:

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



So I assume the next historical total war is a number of years away since tww3 still has to come out, but is there any info on what the next historic title will be?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
You'll find your answer by going back in time and reading the previous page!

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



All I saw on the last page was Atilla and Rome 2 talk

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

All I saw on the last page was Atilla and Rome 2 talk

Two pages back.

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17/

A "flashpoint" campaign for an existing title, followed by a new historical title in a new to TW setting. Maybe China !

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

mllaneza posted:

Two pages back.

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17/

A "flashpoint" campaign for an existing title, followed by a new historical title in a new to TW setting. Maybe China !

Total War: Alaska- The Inuit Menace

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/a-total-war-saga-announce-blog/

quote:

Today we’re thrilled to announce a new class of historical Total War game on PC. Released under a new badge, Total War Saga games will be standalone spin-off titles focusing on exciting pivotal moments in history rather than whole historical eras.

quote:

Jack: With our big releases that cover entire eras, like Rome or Empire, we’ve been following them up with standalone games that focus on a single character’s life and the time around them; like Napoleon or Attila. But there are also these key, pivotal points in history which don’t necessarily revolve around a single character, and only lasted a few months or few decades at most. Such moments also tend to be constrained to a tight geographic area as well.

These moments are perfect fuel for Total War. They’re a powder keg, where anything can happen and history could have gone in any direction. Sagas are epic stories, and we felt that name described those moments well, and allows us to go into the kind of individual detail we love.

So, Total War Saga games will be the same mix of turn-based campaign strategy, real-time battle tactics and hundreds if not thousands of hours of gameplay as a regular Total War game, but focussed down on a distinct moment.

Sagas won’t be revolutionary new titles or introduce brand-new eras; they’ll follow-on from previous Total War games and inhabit the same time-period, or at the very least relate to it. But these are certainly Total War games.

We’ve got more games in production than we’ve ever had before, and historical games form the majority of our forthcoming releases. We thought that badging these “A Total War Saga” would help players understand that they are a spin-off and not the next major title.

This sounds like a pretty good approach. Fall of the Samurai type stuff is probably my favourite among the historical games.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011
So it's Ultimate General: Gettysburg?

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Nah, he says it will be a spin-off of Rome 2, similar to Attila. Moving the time period forward makes me intrigued about what sequence of events it will be centered around. "A moment in history we've not spent enough time with yet" makes me think it is not forward enough to be in the Medieval period, given that had two games already and would really be better off as its own game. The Rise of Islam seems too large a scope for what they're going with and I feel anything after Charlesmagne would fit square into Medieval territory instead of in relation to Rome 2. Any ideas, history buffs?

Creative Assemply posted:


Jack: We’ll announce it properly in the next few months, but I can say that it’s another spiritual follow-up to Total War: ROME II, like Total War: ATTILA, and moves the time period forward in much the same way. It’s great being able to build on and optimise the tech and the content from those games, like the work we did on ATTILA with Age of Charlemagne. Especially for a moment in history we’ve not spent enough time with yet as a studio.

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

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PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

Almost feels like they have too many balls in the air now but we'll see.

peer
Jan 17, 2004

this is not what I wanted
So it's
- a period they've already done, but not exactly in this way
- probably not centred around an individual
- chronologically post-Attila, maybe post-Charlemagne, but still related to Rome 2 somehow :confused:

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Might just be post-Rome instead of post-Attila, the wording is somewhat ambiguous.

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.

GrossMurpel posted:

So it's Ultimate General: Gettysburg?

More like the Kingdoms expansions/mods, I'd bet.

Neathervile
Jan 1, 2004

I've been playing Broken Crescent lately and loving it. Come on, CA. COME ON.

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010
Y'all fuckers know it's going to be Alexander.

Their historical output for the last few years has just been remaking old CA games. Rome to Rome 2. Barbarian Invasion to Attila. Shogun to Shogun 2. If it's not Medieval 3, it's going to be Alexander. It's attached to Rome? Ok, what Rome expansion hasn't been ported yet. Which Rome expansion would be a rough sell at $60.

Rookersh fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jul 5, 2017

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Rookersh posted:

Y'all fuckers know it's going to be Alexander.

Their historical output for the last few years has just been remaking old CA games. Rome to Rome 2. Barbarian Invasion to Attila. Shogun to Shogun 2. If it's not Medieval 3, it's going to be Alexander. It's attached to Rome? Ok, what Rome expansion hasn't been ported yet. Which Rome expansion would be a rough sell at $60.

Jack: We’ll announce it properly in the next few months, but I can say that it’s another spiritual follow-up to Total War: ROME II, like Total War: ATTILA, and moves the time period forward

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

Bet you anything it's the early Crusades.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011


Crisis of the third century is a definite possibility, with the three splinter empires.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
So this is in addition to their usual giant historical setting standard games, right?

Unzip and Attack
Mar 3, 2008

USPOL May
My guess is that it will be Alfred the Great - with the popularity of shows like Vikings and The Last Kingdom, they would do well to dip into that market while the iron is hot.

Tardcore
Jan 24, 2011

Not cool enough for the Spider-man club.
Is Hannibal a possibility?

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Tardcore posted:

Is Hannibal a possibility?

Just did that with a Rome 2 campaign

Unzip and Attack posted:

My guess is that it will be Alfred the Great - with the popularity of shows like Vikings and The Last Kingdom, they would do well to dip into that market while the iron is hot.

This seems real likely

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010
Langobard conquest of Italy? Sassanid Persia versus Eastern Roman Empire, then Arab invasion attacking them both?

Tardcore
Jan 24, 2011

Not cool enough for the Spider-man club.

canyoneer posted:

Just did that with a Rome 2 campaign



I didnt play Rome 2 so I guess I missed that one

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!


Ireland?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.8728954,-6.1531001,119300m/data=!3m1!1e3

Cromwell: Total War might be interesting.

Fangz fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jul 5, 2017

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.
Total War:Hundred Years war.

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

The concept art shared a while back looked like a viking, so combined with that map piece I'd bet it's some British Isles thing. Maybe a Groans of the Britons campaign, maybe Alfred the Great.

ninjahedgehog
Feb 17, 2011

It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.


Ofaloaf posted:

maybe Alfred the Great.

My money's on this. A semi-historical King Arthur vs. the Saxons campaign would be sweet, though.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

Maybe they picked "Saga" because the first one's Viking-related.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

do the loving thirty years war already

Popoto
Oct 21, 2012

miaow
I could see it being the Viking invasion of the british isles, with the vikings using the horde mode at first to pillage and plunder.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

StarMinstrel posted:

I could see it being the Viking invasion of the british isles, with the vikings using the horde mode at first to pillage and plunder.

Great Heathen Army as a horde would be awesome, and putting it on a map as detailed if not more than the one from the Kingdoms Brittania campaign would be awesome. Even get some northern France in there as well.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
That dude's armor looking pop-romanesque makes me think more King Arthur/romano-britons vs saxons.

Also, that'd be a good period to include "heroes" with skill trees like in Warhammer. Pseudo-mythical dudes with cool skills would be really fun, nothing as OTT as in TWW but the same system with scaled-back abilites.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

StashAugustine posted:

do the loving thirty years war already

Just play TW:WH. Empire is the Evangelical League, Vampires are Habsburgs, Dwarfs are Italians and Chaos is Sweden.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

They probably won't go there but I'd sure love Total War Three Kingdoms

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer
My dream total war game is still the Taiping Rebellion. Imagine Fall of the Samurai on steroids, where one faction is led by a dude who thinks he is Jesus's brother and also the English are coming in with Opium War 2: Opium Harder and literally a third of the empire not under Taiping control is in open revolution. Maybe have some kind of mechanic to limit the amount of modern units (something like the Brettonian peasant mechanics) if you aren't playing a western power but it worked great in FotS, no reason it can't work on an even larger scale.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011
Did I hear someone say King Arthur with hero skills?

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






That game had the best music.

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Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010

Beefeater1980 posted:

That game had the best music.

That game was a great first attempt at what eventually became Warhammer.

It also made me realize the Total War fanbase is completely unable to learn anything new, because christ. The amount of bitching about the archers in that game ( whose sole difference is lightly armored units actually took full damage from them, while heavy armored units took 1/3rd of the damage from them. ie always have lightly armored units in skirmish/keep them as flankers. ) in giant blog posts that started with WELL, I'M A MASTER POSTER ON THE TWCENTER, AND OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T BALANCE THE GAME. THESE ARCHERS.. was absurd.

And then they put out the archer patch, and those people came back and just played with the weaker archers, and suddenly as soon as they hit Camelot it was WELL, I'M A MASTER POSTER ON THE TWCENTER, AND ARCHERS ARE NOW USELESS ( they already didn't do much damage to everything but light infantry! The only reason they seemed so bad initially is because you start with a lot of light infantry and you didn't use any of the anti archer powers/heavier stuff until Camelot! ), AND MAGIC IS OP!!! ( magic does double damage to things with armor! IE BUILD DIVERSE ARMIES. ).

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