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Iron Crowned posted:
Yeah whenever I'm on my last guy's last move and I'm like "I can either take a potshot or do overwatch and die" the potshot for 30% is a mega crit
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Then they go and get a crit every time I go for a sub-40% shot
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Fangz posted:Just use an armour with a grappling hook. I want a skill that lets you shoot every enemy you during the grappling animation.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:32
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All this Sniper hate feels soo odd to me because Snipers have always been my workhorse. Slap on some AP rounds and either I can deliver a devastating first blow against anything or I can Serial the map to death.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUW2a3yoUHM
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Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C3poU_0sK4
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Jul 6, 2017 16:40
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Jul 6, 2017 16:42
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Well, that looks cool as hell.
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TopHatGenius posted:All this Sniper hate feels soo odd to me because Snipers have always been my workhorse. Slap on some AP rounds and either I can deliver a devastating first blow against anything or I can Serial the map to death. EDIT: Also yeah that skirmisher poo poo is hella cool. Nordick fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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Or is it Sputnik posted:It's in EU/EW, called Snapshot and loving sucks I usually had a squadsight and a snapshot sniper on teams and it worked great.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:46
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So I guess Waylay is Shoot+Enter overwatch? Interrupts sound cool too. Whiplash is a free action attack? I note that there's additional mission types too.
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TopHatGenius posted:All this Sniper hate feels soo odd to me because Snipers have always been my workhorse. Slap on some AP rounds and either I can deliver a devastating first blow against anything or I can Serial the map to death. Yeah, my sniper this run has been doing work. Last night she was on a mission with AP rounds, and double-tapped a Gatekeeper from full health.
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dogstile posted:That's because it gave you mega penalties. It's weird that it did that in a game where you never really had a timer, so you could just park your sniper in some rear end end corner of the map and he'll do his thing, but its not in this one. Edit: Double Tap'd Quote
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That's my point, in this game it would make sense to have them up against eachother because of the way the game works, but in that one you'd never want snapshot.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:51
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There's not much call for snapshot in XCOM 2 because it conflicts with the expanded Gunslinger class. From reddit: quote:There's also a Skirmisher Resistance Order that gives you an expendable ADVENT soldier for a mission.
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dogstile posted:That's my point, in this game it would make sense to have them up against eachother because of the way the game works, but in that one you'd never want snapshot. The problem was never snapshot, it was that it was against squadsight which really should have been the very first perk. Snapshot vs. drat Good Ground would have been ideal.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:56
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The Chosen better be bringing some serious challenge because if the skirmisher is half as versatile as they're describing it will dominate the field. Giving them responses to every alien action is insane. Edit: They also have a skill that gives them extra actions next turn for each shot fired at them and another skill that lets them take as many overwatch shots as they have actions. And their gun has built in rapid fire? Geeze. Wicked Them Beats fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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Jul 6, 2017 16:57
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The Skirmisher looks like it got lost on the way to Destiny 2. 
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Giving them responses to every alien action is insane. It works exactly like the revamped Ruler Reactions, it should be noted. It does only work for actions taken in their line of sight.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:And their gun has built in rapid fire? Geeze.
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Speaking of reactions, I took a spark with the Intimidate perk onto a map that had one of the upgraded sectopods from Better Advent or one of its contemporaries. Sectopod sees spark, shoots, spark intimidates, it fails, but this triggers Annihilation Protocol and the Sectopod gets to shoot again. So it shoots the spark and the cycle repeats until the spark is dead. My spark brought the bark, but the Sectopod brought the bite.
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Ravenfood posted:I took it to mean that they'd get two attacks coming out of concealment instead of rapidfire, but your way makes more sense. Skirmishers look loving great though, pity about their name. Class, maybe, but that's a weird faction name. It looks like they have pistol level damage on their rifles so this tracks. Honestly they seem to be an extension of Gunslingers more than anything.
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Sharpshooters should get an extra ammo-only slot the way Grenadiers get a special grenade-only slot, even if it only applies to the sniper rifle. Then you could bring separate pistol ammo if you want. It's actually a little weird they didn't do that since they're the only 2 gun class. Also who could have guessed the Ethereals were so close to mass producing such an unstoppable Advent soldier; just needed to give 'em a grappling hook and a little free will.
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Zore posted:It looks like they have pistol level damage on their rifles so this tracks. The basic bullpup rifles do 3-4 instead of normal assault rifles' 3-5. As opposed to pistols with 2-3.
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Jul 6, 2017 17:43
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Wicked Them Beats posted:And their gun has built in rapid fire? It's not built in rapid fire, it's built in Light Em Up/Bulletswarm.
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Maybe it's been answered already, but how many of the changes (like alien ruler behavior/AWC removal) are going to be patched into the base game, and which ones will be part of the DLC?
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I know some people really love the Avatar's goofy anime hair because it's so silly looking, but this mod replaces the hair with a hood and I think it looks more menacing. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=952539295&searchtext=
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Back Hack posted:I know some people really love the Avatar's goofy anime hair because it's so silly looking, but this mod replaces the hair with a hood and I think it looks more menacing. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=952539295&searchtext= Looks a bit too much like this: 
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Yeah that's not acceptable, everyone knows Quarians don't really do biotics
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Specialists get unfairly dumped on. The "every successful overwatch has a 50% chance of triggering a subsequent overwatch" skill is insanely good. Especially when paired with a superior repeater. Especially when using flame rounds. Especially when your AWC skill is something absurd (I had a guy with Serial, but that's a little TOO absurd.) I'd start fights with "activate serial," then "aid protocol self to get an overwatch shot," then open up on an unsuspecting pod. Usually his "opening shot" would result in at least 3 rounds being fired, and an entire pod either disabled/on fire, or outright dead. Then I'd use the last few shots to clean up the mess with serial before ending the turn on a reload. I imagine chain shot or a similar skill would work ALMOST as well. e: I mean, if we're just talking vanilla, they're not the best class. 6 grenadiers would wipe the floor with anything and everything. But it's still a useful class!
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I also use specialists to let Rangers take some ridiculous risks. Aid protocol giving the Ranger another free overwatch shot and defense bonus is great. Charge them into a group of high-priority targets and they just melt things.
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Bullpup is an adorable name for a weapon.Back Hack posted:I know some people really love the Avatar's goofy anime hair because it's so silly looking, but this mod replaces the hair with a hood and I think it looks more menacing. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=952539295&searchtext= That looks lame as hell.
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Internet Kraken posted:Bullpup is an adorable name for a weapon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullpup Perhaps, but a very real name for a gun. The question is, can we get a gun expert looking at the Bullpup used by the Skirmishers to see if the name is appropriate?
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BlazetheInferno posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullpup Bullpup isn't a name of a gun, it's classification of a type of gun. If the magazine is behind the trigger, chances are it's bullpup, even the wiki page you pulled up says as much. Internet Kraken posted:That looks lame as hell. Thats, like, your opinion, man. Back Hack fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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BlazetheInferno posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullpup Probably. The magazine is loaded behind the trigger and grip, and you can tell from the doodads that the action is most likely behind the trigger as well. 
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Looking forward to jumping through hoops to get these dudes on my side 
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So far I do want all 3 classes on my team, they seem real good.
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Back Hack posted:Bullpup isn't a name of a gun, it's classification of a type of gun. If the magazine is behind the trigger, chances are it's bullpup, even the wiki page you pulled up says as much. I think you mean clip, dude. It'd be silly to bring reading material to a firefight.
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jfood posted:I think you mean clip, dude. It'd be silly to bring reading material to a firefight. You'll be eating your words when I win a battle with ADVENT by quoting Teen Vogue.
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Gyshall posted:So far I do want all 3 classes on my team, they seem real good. Has there been a templar video yet, or did I miss it?
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Ravenfood posted:I also use specialists to let Rangers take some ridiculous risks. Aid protocol giving the Ranger another free overwatch shot and defense bonus is great. Charge them into a group of high-priority targets and they just melt things. Two blademaster rangers in a squad are loving savage
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