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hello i am doing a survey on whether brother aziz needs our help. if you could kindly donate $20 to my bank account, it will help me fund the survey
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loquacius posted:It seems to be closer to the second one, which was the less annoying of the two possible hypotheses I originally came up with Speak of the devil, NYT ran a puff piece today about how Harris is speaking up even after people say she needs to wait because she's too junior https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/us/politics/senator-kamala-harris-democrats.html
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steinrokkan posted:Hm, sounds like the case of picking the first response to get rid of the annoying block asap they actually throw out data if they think people didnt care to answer the question from what it looks like (it gets responses, but some of them dont count) also the answers are randomized except none of the above which is the last one. "272 collected / 500 targeted 235 answer(s) from 224 respondent(s)" anime was right has issued a correction as of 20:38 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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people don't generally bullshit the phone survey one, so it depends on where the question was asked
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steinrokkan posted:Hm, sounds like the case of picking the first response to get rid of the annoying block asap Kinda like how 420% of middle school males report having had multiple sex partners in the past week when surveyed.
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radical centrism
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there's a chance people are looking up the answer too but lol who cares
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Kamala thinks feeding the global financial system on the backs of the working class is a good thing But the funny thing is, this is 100% acceptable whereas liking Modi like Obama does disqualifies Gabbard
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Just keep Gabbard away from any international stuff and she's not particularly toxic, is that right?
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the last good democrat we had was also trash on foreign policy
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Aww you changed the thread title and didn't use that really good one 
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Gabbard is good on Syria and bad on almost everything else
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You don't understand, Gabbard is an Islamophobe and a Bad Democrat. Obama is a Good Democrat, despite droning countless innocent Muslims. Obama is good because he wasn't scared of them before he murdered them, I guess. That's how It Works.
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call to action posted:You don't understand, Gabbard is an Islamophobe and a Bad Democrat. Obama is a Good Democrat, despite droning countless innocent Muslims. Obama is good because he wasn't scared of them before he murdered them, I guess. That's how It Works.
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call to action posted:But the funny thing is, this is 100% acceptable whereas liking Modi like Obama does disqualifies Gabbard loquacius posted:I think I actually want Gabbard and Harris to both be in the next primary, so I can hear people tie their brains in knots explaining why everything bad about Gabbard is actually good about Harris
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I assume that by the time the 2020 election rolls around, the pertinent foreign policy question will be "OH GOD EVERYTHING IS ON FIRE", so I'm not sure I'd read too much into existing stances.
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Remember the sock circlejerk around Trudeau? Say hello to Polish Trump socks
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fits my needs posted:On the other hand, Obama was a secret Muslim while Gabbard is pro Muslim genocide openly. Openly pro Muslim genocide, huh. Can you quote that?
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call to action posted:Openly pro Muslim genocide, huh. Can you quote that? no
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with all due respect, the article is about winning, not about what is right. And I think the current state of affairs demonstrates pretty clearly that, whether we like it or not, Democrats will have to move to the center in order to win. And winning now is essential. Just as you have been arguing with "move-to-the-center" ranters forever, so have the rest of us been dealing with "move-to-the-left" ranters for just as long, having now witnessed them (through Sanders and Nader) install two Republicans in the White House. Either the left wing of the Democratic Party will wake up to reality, or the Party will become even more irrelevant. Half of zero is zero.
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Yeah I didn't loving think so, stop carrying water for your fellow slaveowners please the bitcoin of weed posted:with all due respect, the article is about winning, not about what is right. And I think the current state of affairs demonstrates pretty clearly that, whether we like it or not, Democrats will have to move to the center in order to win. And winning now is essential. Just as you have been arguing with "move-to-the-center" ranters forever, so have the rest of us been dealing with "move-to-the-left" ranters for just as long, having now witnessed them (through Sanders and Nader) install two Republicans in the White House. Either the left wing of the Democratic Party will wake up to reality, or the Party will become even more irrelevant. Half of zero is zero. Source your NYT comments, please
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the bitcoin of weed posted:with all due respect, the article is about winning, not about what is right. And I think the current state of affairs demonstrates pretty clearly that, whether we like it or not, Democrats will have to move to the center in order to win. And winning now is essential. Just as you have been arguing with "move-to-the-center" ranters forever, so have the rest of us been dealing with "move-to-the-left" ranters for just as long, having now witnessed them (through Sanders and Nader) install two Republicans in the White House. Either the left wing of the Democratic Party will wake up to reality, or the Party will become even more irrelevant. Half of zero is zero. The dems are to the right of centre.
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call to action posted:Yeah I didn't loving think so, stop carrying water for your fellow slaveowners please Slaveowners?  Um I'm just worried she will genocide me and my people dawg.
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the bitcoin of weed posted:with all due respect, the article is about winning, not about what is right. And I think the current state of affairs demonstrates pretty clearly that, whether we like it or not, Democrats will have to move to the center in order to win. And winning now is essential. Just as you have been arguing with "move-to-the-center" ranters forever, so have the rest of us been dealing with "move-to-the-left" ranters for just as long, having now witnessed them (through Sanders and Nader) install two Republicans in the White House. Either the left wing of the Democratic Party will wake up to reality, or the Party will become even more irrelevant. Half of zero is zero. i call it the double down
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There's also, more importantly, nothing to be gained from moving towards the GOP. The GOP is a credible actor entrenched in its ideological positions, and Dems trying to compete for the same marginal voters lying along the GOP / Dem fault line are late comers, pathetic "me too" politicians trying to make a living out of Republican politics. And the voters know that.
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the bitcoin of weed posted:with all due respect, the article is about winning, not about what is right. And I think the current state of affairs demonstrates pretty clearly that, whether we like it or not, Democrats will have to move to the center in order to win. And winning now is essential. Just as you have been arguing with "move-to-the-center" ranters forever, so have the rest of us been dealing with "move-to-the-left" ranters for just as long, having now witnessed them (through Sanders and Nader) install two Republicans in the White House. Either the left wing of the Democratic Party will wake up to reality, or the Party will become even more irrelevant. Half of zero is zero. agreeing with this poster
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How dare Sanders endorse DOnald Trump
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the dems have lost shitloads of power by catering to the right and moving to the center. if they can't even win anymore and half-assedly "protect" us from the worst the republicans have to offer, then why the gently caress should we vote for them?
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fits my needs posted:Slaveowners? shes gonna bomb goons??????
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thats like benghazi saiyan 2
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Serf posted:the dems have lost shitloads of power by catering to the right and moving to the center. if they can't even win anymore and half-assedly "protect" us from the worst the republicans have to offer, then why the gently caress should we vote for them? Have you looked at the other guys!? 
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https://twitter.com/NRCC/status/882700044251652101 Goddamn. Godddddaaaaammmmmnnnnnnn
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you see what I'm loving talking about with the Nader thing people can instantly make Trump Bernie's fault by putting him in the same sentence as Nader, poof, because of course Bush was Nader's fault, we just kind of accept this unconsciously
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loquacius posted:you see what I'm loving talking about with the Nader thing No! nader will be trumps fault!
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steinrokkan posted:The dems are to the right of centre. Look the only two ideological positions are 'apocalypse cult" and "just barely not an apocalypse cult" and if we really want to win we just need to go slightly culty. It's just the way it is.
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the bitcoin of weed posted:with all due respect, the article is about winning, not about what is right. And I think the current state of affairs demonstrates pretty clearly that, whether we like it or not, Democrats will have to move to the center in order to win. And winning now is essential. Just as you have been arguing with "move-to-the-center" ranters forever, so have the rest of us been dealing with "move-to-the-left" ranters for just as long, having now witnessed them (through Sanders and Nader) install two Republicans in the White House. Either the left wing of the Democratic Party will wake up to reality, or the Party will become even more irrelevant. Half of zero is zero. I agree. We should do a compromise, a Grand Bargain if I may say so, to ensure that only 12 million Americans will get thrown off their health care plans instead of 23 million.
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I also believe that we should compromise with the GOP in that slights to the holy and almighty Christian God should only be punished by prison and hard labor, with summary stonings only reserved for the harlots and the sodomites. I can barely write that without drowning in anger, my God drat the Christian Right Feldegast42 has issued a correction as of 21:54 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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