queserasera posted:

Doing genealogy work, I get depressed when I see "potter's field" on an old death certificate. Did this person outlive friends and family, couldn't get a family plot, died poor and alone, too anonymous in life?

queserasera posted:

Bobby Driscoll, the child actor who played the child leads in Song of the South and Treasure Island and was the voice of Disney's Peter Pan died of a drug overdose in the 60s and is buried in one of the mass graves on Hart Island.

Doing genealogy work, I get depressed when I see "potter's field" on an old death certificate. Did this person outlive friends and family, couldn't get a family plot, died poor and alone, too anonymous in life?

Sarcopenia posted:

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/michael-alig-party-monster-murderer-returns-to-nightlife-w463399


Michael alig "King of The Club Kids" has started promoting parties again.


Unsurprisingly he is still a huge piece of trash. Prepare youself for a lot of

Pick posted:

ElGroucho posted:

This is the worst poo poo so far

Azathoth posted:

Our church was the local Scandinavian Lutheran church, just down the road are the German Lutheran church, and graveyards from the now-closed Catholic and Methodist churches. That's important to know in a bit.

This grave is for a man with an Irish name and has nothing more than his dates of birth and death, which tells us he died in his mid-40s. It's also a nice headstone, as nice as any from that era. There's no other graves in the cemetery with his last name, and he is not buried with a wife or any children. It isn't until 60-70 years after he died that non-Scandinavian names begin appearing in the cemetery, and we're rural enough that no one was carting people out to us to be buried if they weren't affiliated with the church. Plenty of closer graveyards for that.

His story is lost and even our unofficial church historian doesn't know his story. All we know is that he wasn't a member of the congregation and no one with his last name ever was. He doesn't match anyone on Ancestry.com that I can find, as he has a really common name. He must have died in the immediate vicinity, but that just begs the question of why he isn't buried in the Catholic cemetery, since assuming he was of Irish heritage, in our location and in the time, he almost certainly would have been at least nominally Catholic.

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moonsour posted:

The main takeaway, and the unnerving part was that everyone there (at least in the city) absolutely loved the military. The parades were full of cheers from both young and old. They're raised to believe, and never told otherwise that America can and will come back at any time to kill them all. They believe completely that their government is the only reason they're still alive.

moonsour posted:

He also said the passports had to be surrendered to the tour guides.

city of doves posted:

there between the bathroom and the sea, more than forty thousand strong men were slain by the emanations of my rear end

1stGear posted:

Pretty sure this would be the point where I'd be like "Nope, leaving this country now, don't need to see a totalitarian hellhole that badly."

Azathoth posted:

By that point, it's already far too late to change your mind. You've flown in, the passport's been stamped and the only way out is on state-owned airlines. Even if you had the passport, what good would it really do?

moonsour posted:

the unnerving part was that everyone there (at least in the city) absolutely loved the military. The parades were full of cheers from both young and old.

InediblePenguin posted:

you've never been to texas, have you

moonsour posted:

They're raised to believe, and never told otherwise that America can and will come back at any time to kill them all. They believe completely that their government is the only reason they're still alive.

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Hi, my name’s Frank, and I’m a registered citizen in the state of California, also known as a sex-offender. And I just wanna let you know that that’s not who I am, that’s something I did 35 years ago. It’s not who I am today, and so I don’t particularly care for that title. I will accept the title of a registered citizen right now, because that’s what I am – I’m a citizen and I’m required by law to register,

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There was somehow… Some teasing got started, and that progressed.

What kind of teasing?

You know, those are kind of sketchy detail, and I just don’t want to go into the details of what happened, because that leads constantly down this road of talking about this incident, and that is just something I don’t want to do, because she’s not here. But it… Yeah, that’s how it got started, then I asked her, “Do you wanna continue doing this?” and she said, “Yes,” so I said, “Well, my house is little ways away.” She got permission from her parents and we walked over to my house. We spent maybe 15 minutes, maybe 20 in this touchy-feely interaction. At a point she said, “I’m done with this, I don’t wanna do this anymore,” and I said, “Okay.” I walked her back home, and that was it.

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The day after the incident happened I was kind of walking aimlessly, and there was a church, and I wandered in. I sat alone, I don’t know for how long, to say I’m sorry. I just remembered that.

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Two weeks later the parents showed up at my door. I was actually napping on the couch, still trying to stay numb because I just felt horrible about what had happened, it wouldn’t leave my brain alone. Knock on the door, I opened the door and it was her parents.

Did you know her and her parents?

No, I didn’t. That’s the crazy thing. I had never met them, but I had seen them that evening. He made an accusation, and I said “Yes.”

What did he say?

He said, “My daughter told me that…” and I don’t remember the exact words he used, but “you had contact with her.” I’m not sure how he…

He must’ve been angry.

Well, he didn’t look it, and the wife was standing right behind him. But as soon as I said, “Yeah, that happened”, it was like a huge burden. Finally got to admit it. Well, I didn’t know that he had nunchucks in this back pocket, and they came out, and the flailing started. It was everything I could do to fend those blows off as best as possible, but when you’ve got two of those things going on in rapid fire, some of them you miss. But what I was feeling was that rage that I knew I would probably feel if it was my daughter. So I looked at him as being justified for his rage. Didn’t particularly care that it was causing pain, but that’s okay, he needed to get his rage out. It felt good that I had been honest. Immediately his wife ran over to my phone and jumped on the phone; I remember her saying, “You’d better get here quick or he’s going to kill him.” [Laughs]

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Cops came, they gave them their version. Cops came over and said, “Did you do this?” and I said, “Yeah.” “Well, what did you do?” So I told them. Then we get to the police station, I’m under arrest, and a couple hours later they come back and say, “Well, we forgot to Mirandize you. Would you be willing to make that statement again?” So again, I could say yes. My attorney, that I contacted several hours later found out about it and he goes, “Oh… We could have gotten you off.” That’s not what I wanted to do. Here I was, holding on to this huge, ugly, dark secret. I’ve done something wrong, I feel like I’m broken. I feel like I’m not human because I’ve done this, and now I have to carry it. And, you know, who can you go and tell? No one. No one.

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What’s the code, what’s on the books?

Lewd or lascivious acts with a minor under 14.

How old was she?

I don’t want to go into this, I just really don’t want to go into the details. Not until she’s sitting next to me some day and she can say, “Yes, that’s exactly what happened.” Because otherwise, as I begin to that, you know, first it starts with age, and then all of a sudden you’re hearing things that you would not believe. “Kids don’t do that…” So I don’t tell the story.

Deified Data posted:

I know this thread sometimes goes off on podcast tangents...

I'm listening to the Red Dot episode of the Love + Radio podcast, basically a sex offender being interviewed for an hour. The guy talking, Frank, is...one of the most singularly vile creatures I've ever seen/heard. He compares the sex offender registry to Jews being persecuted in the Holocaust, not once but twice. Threatens to commit mass murder if he's not removed from the registry. Says he wants to book a cruise ship so he can take all the sex offenders in America on a pleasure cruise. I'm sorry I quoted so much, but there really is so much and I only nunrecommend listening if you want to get a massive hate-on. Does anyone know if this is real? Because this guy is so profoundly, perfectly hateful and his smug voice so sickening I can't imagine this being a real person.

Glazier posted:

Everyone has a kink or two, in the grand sweep fart fetishists are pretty tame.

InediblePenguin posted:

do you think it's impossible to put a hand in a butthole, bro?

Sarcopenia posted:

That dude just could not own up to what he did. It was just excuse after excuse.

There's a documentary called "Pervert Park" about sex offenders living in a town made for pedophiles so they don't have to worry about getting beat up or thrown out because a child or school moves in near them. The thing that scares me is when they can't seem to take responsibility for their crimes and blames society for the situation they're in. That means that they don't understand or think that what they did was wrong.

Here's the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXoLTFH6W_g

Sarcopenia posted:

because it's a common pop culture psychology misconception that victims of child abuse go on to offend themselves. abused children being inappropriate because they don't know that it is wrong, sure, but sexual abuse victims don't have a no higher risk of offending as adults than the rest of the population.

Alereon posted:

I am pretty sure this is wrong, and a quick Google seems to agree. It is extremely important not to think that being a victim inevitably causes someone to perpetrate abuse, and obviously victims of abuse shouldn't be viewed as potential abusers, but it seems very well established that being abused as a child is a risk factor for abuse.

Sarcopenia posted:

I think I would have been more surprised if any of them weren't lying to some extend. It almost seemed like the filmmakers tried to seek out the most insincere people in the town.

Alereon posted:

I am pretty sure this is wrong, and a quick Google seems to agree. It is extremely important not to think that being a victim inevitably causes someone to perpetrate abuse, and obviously victims of abuse shouldn't be viewed as potential abusers, but it seems very well established that being abused as a child is a risk factor for abuse.

This American Life posted:

There's one group of people that is universally tarred and feathered in the United States and most of the world. We never hear from them, because they can't identify themselves without putting their livelihoods and reputations at risk. That group is pedophiles. It turns out lots of them desperately want help, but because it's so hard to talk about their situation it's almost impossible for them to find it. Reporter Luke Malone spent a year and a half talking to people in this situation, and he has this story about one of them.