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Nostalgia4Butts posted:nothing. mueller is in control Yeah. From all accounts that I've read, it's basically the jurisprudence equivalent of the original Dream Team and is probably the most experienced and battle-tested prosecution team ever assembled. Lots of experience with money laundering, financial crimes, counterintelligence, and even arguing cases before the Supreme Court. Yes yes, nothing matters, etc.; however, I wouldn't be surprised if a number of Trump's high-ranking lieutenants (Manafort, Kushner, Junior, etc.) end up being indicted.
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CHICKEN SHOES posted:A lot of americans will bow their heads and say "it was gods will" and be ok with it Inshallah
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:mike pence is hosed btw. he knows it I'll be surprised if he goes down. He's a party man, unlike Trump, and his real job from day one has been to stay clean enough to keep hold of the reins of power if/when Donnie implodes. Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jul 14, 2017 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:I'll be surprised if he goes down. He's a party man, unlike Trump, and his real job from day one has been to stay clean enough to keep hold of the reigns of power if/when Donnie implodes. I mean they're hoping he's clean enough to touch NASA space tiles
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I doubt Pence goes down for anything criminal. He might resign due to some highly embarrassing poo poo, but I don't see him being brought up on charges. And frankly, I think Paul Ryan will do less damage as President than he could do as speaker so I'm fine with that highly unlikely scenario.
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TBQH, if the tile had actually been that sensitive, it would have been in a clean room where people wear Tyvek suits instead of Brooks Brothers, and would have been put away before the boss was let in for his tour.
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Dead Reckoning posted:TBQH, if the tile had actually been that sensitive, it would have been in a clean room where people wear Tyvek suits instead of Brooks Brothers, and would have been put away before the boss was let in for his tour. Doesn't make the picture any less hilarious.
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Wait, why? I haven't heard anything about him recently besides lawyering up.
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Godholio posted:Wait, why? I haven't heard anything about him recently besides lawyering up. he lawyered up because of the fbi focus on him being in charge of the transition team plus him repeating over and over again that he knew nothing about flynn before sally yates told them isnt true if he didnt know directly he was in charge of making sure they were throughly vetting everyone, so if he didnt know at that time (after wapo and nyt were reporting about it) then he didnt check poo poo president paul ryan, ladies and gentlemrn. or pelosi if it takes awhile and the democrats weekend at bernies themselves into a majority beforehand
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also thats just me regurgitating maddow so consider that my source
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A wild scenario where Pelosi gets handed the presidency would be hilarious. That would be the ultimate comeuppance for voting based on what "makes liberals mad".
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It's fuckin Pelosi. After four years of her, middle America would install Cliven Bundy as President with the corpse of Saddam Hussein as his VP and never look back.
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Dead Reckoning posted:It's fuckin Pelosi. After four years of her, middle America would install Cliven Bundy as President with the corpse of Saddam Hussein as his VP and never look back. Do you want someone to be Nancy Pelosi's rubber stamp? *spooky music over milque toast dem candidate* Or someone with Vision whose willing to stand up to LIBERALS and make YOUR VALUES HEARD? * Queue patriotic music and 9/11 montage* vote the corpse of Osama Bin Laden for your district rep. Atlanta GOP candidates would be way more insufferable than they already are.
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KildarX posted:Atlanta GOP candidates would be way more insufferable than they already are. But have you heard of General Sherman?
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M_Gargantua posted:But have you heard of General Sherman? There's not a day goes by where I listen to am radio here and go. "Maybe the Republicans didn't go far enough after Lincoln bit it. "
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M_Gargantua posted:But have you heard of General Sherman? I've heard he stopped short.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Russian Tinder must be a-maz-ing. yeah you just have to let them know upfront you're not a violent drunk and their panties drop
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Please let this lead into a wrestling match. "Pootie, first you stole my heart, then you stole my wife. Will the oligarchy stop at nothing?!?" *Trump strips down to a 'Murica singlet
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I tried to recap Donnie's tweetbarf that he just did, but it's so stupid that I just can't. Topics are Pootie, DNC, sanctions, and not believing Intel community. I know this is par for the course for TrumpTweets, but this is the best recap of the Putin meeting you're ever going to get, since it's all stupid, lies, or both. https://twitter.com/RealPressSecBot/status/884017048719728641 https://twitter.com/RealPressSecBot/status/884019566271094784 https://twitter.com/RealPressSecBot/status/884022080970170369 https://twitter.com/RealPressSecBot/status/884027868220579840 This G-20 recap out of Australia has been making the rounds for it's bluntness and the really good point that the administration didn't even get a North Korea statement out of our allies. https://twitter.com/InsidersABC/status/883829926993862656
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U.S. officials say Russian government hackers have penetrated energy and nuclear company business networks They didn't really get into the guts of those networks but are more just probing and gathering info
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Hot Karl Marx posted:They didn't really get into the guts of those networks but are more just probing and gathering info I work with a bunch of smaller power companies and we were talking about this a couple weeks back. Hackers have been getting access to power companies administrative networks which contain things like their websites and corporate email accounts. These networks are completely separate from their SCADA network which is where all the critical infrastructure is located. Those systems are (or should be) completely isolated from the internet and communicate with each other through hard lines, microwave and cell service. The big issue is the hackers are attempting to cross that bridge by trying to target their efforts at the chief operating engineers and the like.
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Delizin posted:their SCADA network which is where all the critical infrastructure is located. Those systems are (or should be) completely isolated from the internet and communicate with each other through hard lines, microwave and cell service. they're not. there was a site that i am not going to link that aggregated all of the machines it could find with VNC clients accessible via public internet with default credentials. among them were SCADA systems, and that's just one remote management tool.
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Donal Trump posted:Election hacking will be guarded and safe. Well, at least he's honest for a change.
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It's more that security costs and so nobody invests what they need to. Isolated power plant networks are great, but your office network getting compromised can allow an attacker to forge credentials to get physical access
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More and more the only way I think we'll ever get anything approaching decent cybersecurity is to start holding software "engineers" and IT professionals to the same rigorous standards we hold the engineers building the rest of our infrastructure.
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Soylent Pudding posted:More and more the only way I think we'll ever get anything approaching decent cybersecurity is to start holding software "engineers" and IT professionals to the same rigorous standards we hold the engineers building the rest of our infrastructure. A lot of those people are the ones screaming about security issues right now. It's the bean counters that refuse to invest in security that are the problem.
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Maybe if you hold engineers to that standard, them saying "I in no way certify this as secure because x,y and z" would make the purse strings loosen up a bit.
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Then you get a cybergrover who signs off anyway.
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Nothing will change until a bunch of white people in the US die and it can't be blamed on something else.
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I used to think that too, then Sandy Hook happened. Now I think we are destined to a mad max future.
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not caring here posted:Maybe if you hold engineers to that standard, them saying "I in no way certify this as secure because x,y and z" would make the purse strings loosen up a bit. I'm not sure this works. Social engineering is still a big problem with security so even if you took a system entirely off network, you could still be insecure because of people infiltrating your company, or being bribed, or what have you. Then if your computer is on a network you have all manner of penetration attempts that you can attempt to secure against, but against a state actor or really deep pockets it's about mitigation and restoration rather than keeping people out 100 percent. If you're a civil engineer at least youre not held liable if a dude decides to bomb your building and your building falls over. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Jul 9, 2017 |
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I don't know dick about cyber security but I used to be in software sales and no one ever wants to pay for the service contract or a security package Than 3 years later you charge em 10x what the initial cost was for both to "secure" an outdated platform that has been patched or updated since the day your implementation team finished putting it in
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KirbyKhan posted:I used to think that too, then Sandy Hook happened. Now I think we are destined to a mad max future. You can split the blame on guns and mental health, so yeah, I wouldn't have expected anything there.
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