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Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

if bernie had gotten the nom, would the hill fanatics who smeared bernie as racist have voted for mike stop and frisk bloomberg?

HillaryIs44 became pro-trump. They would have gone full republican.

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Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
"how do i helped democrats 2018"
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white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Dat make up is on fleek 👄💅🏻💍💄💋🙌🏻

Go Hillary!

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


tbf using her connections to dump money into important congressional races is extremly good in a vacuum, issue is that we allll know she's gonna springboard this poo poo into a 2020 candidacy.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

SKULL.GIF posted:

He's saying that the people who weren't happy with Hillary also made it worse

IDK I can see his point but it feels like voter-blaming

People who weren't happy with Hillary were airing justifiable concerns that only ended up being ruthlessly suppressed by a base of fanatics who smeared anyone critical of Hillary or her campaign as racsexists. It prevented any kind of meaningful feedback from reaching the Clinton campaign, because Hillary had already surrounded herself with sycophants and loyalists - so there was no room for any kind of correction which could have made a difference in the tiny margins of victory that let Trump take the white house.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

If there's one thing that definitely doesn't need to die it's the patronage network that propelled the worst candidate in election history to the democratic nomination.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
campaign finance is such a slippery slope, you're funding downtickets and the next thing you know you pull that funding and bet on yourself instead :smugbert:

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Yea right you'd still carry water for her

nah i wouldn't have

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

i take the controversial stance that slavery is bad

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Yinlock posted:

i take the controversial stance that slavery is bad
So you too wish to amend the constitution to include intra-terrestrials, extra-terrestrials, and AI as all persons?

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

ThndrShk2k posted:

So you too wish to amend the constitution to include intra-terrestrials, extra-terrestrials, and AI as all persons?

sure why not

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Yinlock posted:

i take the controversial stance that slavery is bad

Look you need to be pragmatic, besides you wouldn't want Trump to win would you?

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Look you need to be pragmatic, besides you wouldn't want Trump to win would you?

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
Martians aren't humans. Earth must come first.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Nanomashoes posted:

HillaryIs44 became pro-trump. They would have gone full republican.

hillaryis44 endorsed the republican in 3 out of 3 general elections since it existed, so i'm not sure we can say they haven't gone full republican

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

logikv9 posted:

Martians aren't humans. Earth must come first.
We've had plenty of lizard people in office, they deserve the same rights as surface dwellers in the eyes of the law.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Agean90 posted:

tbf using her connections to dump money into important congressional races is extremly good in a vacuum, issue is that we allll know she's gonna springboard this poo poo into a 2020 candidacy.

if its dumping money into spawning more Ossoffs never loving mind

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar



:wow: Obama really let himself go after leaving office

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
lmao

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Agean90 posted:

tbf using her connections to dump money into important congressional races is extremly good in a vacuum, issue is that we allll know she's gonna springboard this poo poo into a 2020 candidacy.

But bad dems got wrecked in the 2016 Nov election since their tactics were linking themselves to Hillary and also using the Trump is scary appeal to voters.

It obviously didn't work.

etalian has issued a correction as of 18:12 on Jul 9, 2017

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

Yinlock posted:

i dunno, "literal slave-owner" is fairly strong line to cross

lol if u think ppl wouldnt defend her
its hilarious to me how ppl thought bernie was goin all scorched earth n poo poo on hillary w/o bringin any of this poo poo up but while bernie was decribed as some sorta rape loving misogynist cuz of a lovely essay he once wrote

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

i especilly liked all the "shes smarter than me so im gonna put my trust in her" ppl lmao

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

suck on that!!!

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Turdfuzz posted:

i especilly liked all the "shes smarter than me so im gonna put my trust in her" ppl lmao
Same reason people voted for Trump

Smart business man who makes great business will business america great again

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

ThndrShk2k posted:

Same reason people voted for Trump

Smart business man who makes great business will business america great again

so ur sayin clinton ppl n trump ppl arent so diff after all woah

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

guess the truth is in the middle or something

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Turdfuzz posted:

i especilly liked all the "shes smarter than me so im gonna put my trust in her" ppl lmao

I guess she overlooked how almost all her political career was based around nepotism especially shown by her inexperience in winning contested elections.

She's one of those bad dems who should be locked away in a safe blue district like Pelosi but shouldn't be allowed to have any control over the party.

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

brb donating to ron paul

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

ok im back he wouldnt take my money unless it was gold or bitcoin :/

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Yinlock posted:

i dunno, "literal slave-owner" is fairly strong line to cross

People have defended her now for it. Back when we were looking at either Trump or her? I fuckin' bet you'd be called a racist or something for saying it was all hosed up/

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Yinlock posted:

i take the controversial stance that slavery is bad

but will ending coerced prison labor defeat racism?

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ron+Paul

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Turdfuzz posted:

so ur sayin clinton ppl n trump ppl arent so diff after all woah

bing bong

says a lot that its taken a while for people to notice that, but deniability is a helluva drug

party loyalists are a disease to progress regardless of affiliation largely due to the fact that they fail to budge or adjust to incoming inevitable changes

its actually mindblowing how petty they are considering the exponential rate of technology climbing, so should quality of life. It's just that simple

And centrists want to compromise on that quality of life, and compromise is a shortcut, a temporary balm because again status quo blah blah the money is good, don't rock the boat blah blah. Your money's drying up idiot, if you were a better con artist you'd embrace the techies- oh my god :suspense:

they certainly can try to at least not make it so obvious :sweatdrop:

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015
Am I dreaming or are the feelers for Cuomo 2020 getting a bit too obvious?

https://twitter.com/politico/status/883949330201292800

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

Agnosticnixie posted:

Am I dreaming or are the feelers for Cuomo 2020 getting a bit too obvious?

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/07/andrew-cuomo-2020-trump-215348

that titles fucken great cuz its p much "this guy could win if he could make the side hes running on actually like him"

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Agnosticnixie posted:

Am I dreaming or are the feelers for Cuomo 2020 getting a bit too obvious?

https://twitter.com/politico/status/883949330201292800

cuomo 2020 was a thing as soon as he passed fake free college hth

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Agnosticnixie posted:

Am I dreaming or are the feelers for Cuomo 2020 getting a bit too obvious?

https://twitter.com/politico/status/883949330201292800

Cuomo would lose pretty badly.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Agnosticnixie posted:

Am I dreaming or are the feelers for Cuomo 2020 getting a bit too obvious?

https://twitter.com/politico/status/883949330201292800

oh holy poo poo lol

I forgot I wanted to report back with this:
I was at the gym yesterday and glancing at FOX on one of the screens. I couldn't hear what they were saying but the topic was "HOW DO DEMOCRATS WIN?" or some poo poo. Then images of Bernie, Warren and Kamala came on, with subtitles like "Too socialist, too tied with identity politics." And then Andrew Cuomo came up and both the guest and the host said Cuomo would make a good 2020 candidate lololol

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Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Cuomo must be pissed that Schumer or Gillibrand doesn't step aside so he can jump from Governor to Senator in order to tidy up his resume ahead of 2020.

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