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Rhyno posted:There were a few guys who aped Kirby's style here and there, the dude who finished Phantom Force and a bunch of Image stuff. Nobody bought it and it all went away. Ron Frenz did a pretty good job getting the Kirby feeling back in Thor from like 390 to 425. Those covers were very late-silver age Kirby and even the interiors invoked a Lee/Kirby vibe.
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There was a guest artist who did one of those faux retro issues of Deadpool, and it took place in the 60's. He aped Kirby nicely, imo.
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I always thought Mignola was similar to Kirby, especially with how he draws monsters.
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Herb Trimpe used to do a pretty good pseudo-Kirby back in the day, although he switched to pseudo-Liefeld when the 90s rolled around.
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Begemot posted:I always thought Mignola was similar to Kirby, especially with how he draws monsters. It's weird to read this because I love Mignola and am very indifferent to Kirby, like I guess I understand how the seem similar on a broad level but they feel like such different tastes to me
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purple death ray posted:Even if you managed to get that aesthetic back in vogue there's not a single colorist working for the big 2 in 2017 that would not completely ruin it Jordie Bellaire could do it.
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Lurdiak posted:What about Allred on colors. I'd love a book where the Allred's go over Jack's inks. There's a a Black Bolt pin up they did for the Kirby Collector that I always harp about, and is what the kids call "the bee's knees". Open Marriage Night fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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GPTribefan posted:Ron Frenz did a pretty good job getting the Kirby feeling back in Thor from like 390 to 425. Those covers were very late-silver age Kirby and even the interiors invoked a Lee/Kirby vibe. That's just Ron Frenz's style and it's always been good and cool.
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haitfais posted:Jordie Bellaire could do it. That was the guy who did the Deadpool issue! It was good.
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Rhyno posted:That's just Ron Frenz's style and it's always been good and cool. Not really.... he had his own style in Amazing Spider-Man that didn't really homage anyone. And once he got off the Kirby riff he went for a Simonson vibe on Thor. His 90s Fantastic Four was decent, but never had a Kirby feel to it. I always loved Frenz' work, he always had some dynamic covers and solid interiors. On the other hand, Rich Buckler tried so hard to ape Kirby on Fantastic Four in the early 70s and it looked awful.
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GPTribefan posted:Not really.... he had his own style in Amazing Spider-Man that didn't really homage anyone. And once he got off the Kirby riff he went for a Simonson vibe on Thor. His 90s Fantastic Four was decent, but never had a Kirby feel to it. I always loved Frenz' work, he always had some dynamic covers and solid interiors. I guess I've always been able to easily ID Ron's style, even when he was drawing Superman he was doing a lite Kirby riff. It's funny that as a teen I hated it and today he's what I consider one of the most talented artists this industry has ever seen. Buckler's work was indeed horrible.
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Thanks to this thread i bought all of Marshall Law and Nemesis: The Warlock. So thanks for the big scans.
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GPTribefan posted:Not really.... he had his own style in Amazing Spider-Man that didn't really homage anyone. And once he got off the Kirby riff he went for a Simonson vibe on Thor. His 90s Fantastic Four was decent, but never had a Kirby feel to it. I always loved Frenz' work, he always had some dynamic covers and solid interiors. You could do a lot worse than aping Walt Simonson on a Thor run. Like, for instance, not aping Walt Simonson.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:That was the guy who did the Deadpool issue! It was good. *gal
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Wapole Languray posted:Law hates superheros because he's never actually met one, all the superhumans are broken people, either victims or monsters. Marshal Law actually wants there to be genuine superheros, instead of broken people, psychopaths, or cynical assholes. There's also that Pat Mills loving hates the very concept of superheroes to the core of his being, seeing them as fascistic, war-glorifying, submit-to-your-betters authoritarian propaganda, and that comes through strongly as well! His take on Batman in 'Kingdom of the Blind' has genuine loathing and anger at the idea that a psychologically hosed-up billionaire who beats the poo poo out of poor people with impunity is in any way a hero, and it's brilliant.
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Payndz posted:There's also that Pat Mills loving hates the very concept of superheroes to the core of his being, seeing them as fascistic, war-glorifying, submit-to-your-betters authoritarian propaganda, and that comes through strongly as well! His take on Batman in 'Kingdom of the Blind' has genuine loathing and anger at the idea that a psychologically hosed-up billionaire who beats the poo poo out of poor people with impunity is in any way a hero, and it's brilliant. Pat Mills is probably the best comic writer of all time, so this is hardly surprising. From Charley's War (illustrated by the great Joe Colquhoun):  What's not immediately obvious, and even less obvious if you haven't read the whole thing, is that the character in the third panel looks a hell of a lot less like Charley Bourne than it does his dead friend.
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Payndz posted:There's also that Pat Mills loving hates the very concept of superheroes to the core of his being, seeing them as fascistic, war-glorifying, submit-to-your-betters authoritarian propaganda, and that comes through strongly as well! His take on Batman in 'Kingdom of the Blind' has genuine loathing and anger at the idea that a psychologically hosed-up billionaire who beats the poo poo out of poor people with impunity is in any way a hero, and it's brilliant.
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Nessus posted:This is the guy who came up with Judge Dredd, right? John Wagner created Dredd but Mills contributed a lot - Mills took over when Wagner left and introduced or established a lot about Dredd and his world.
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I think Mills really reinforced the idea that Mega City One is a dystopia. There's a lot of absurdity in the early Wagner stuff where insane crime happens because people are too bored with an idyllic society. He started to deconstruct his setting later on but Mills straight up went "The judges are insane fascists ruling over a calcified dystopia."
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Lurdiak posted:I think Mills really reinforced the idea that Mega City One is a dystopia. There's a lot of absurdity in the early Wagner stuff where insane crime happens because people are too bored with an idyllic society. He started to deconstruct his setting later on but Mills straight up went "The judges are insane fascists ruling over a calcified dystopia."
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david_a posted:Wasn't that the point to begin with? I thought the original concept of Judge Dredd was a satire of Thatcher/Reagan "tough on crime" nonsense: what if society actually worked like Dirty Harry/Death Wish, i.e. there are individuals in power who are judge, jury, and executioner all rolled into one. I never really paid attention to who wrote which stories, though. I mean, maybe it was, but in the original like, 100 progs or so, Dredd is the only sane man in a world of whiny idiots and people who desperately want to get shot in the face. If it was satire it went over my head. It's not until the war with Mega City 2 that I started to see actual social commentary.
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Yeah early judge dredd is more like fascist farce.
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Dang, I didn't know.
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You have to remember though that 2000AD was originally targeted towards 10 year olds and the like, so the early stories are quite simplistic. As the comic went on it grew with its audience (and obviously the writers solidified the direction they wanted to take it), which is why you get more social commentary later on.
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I wasn't trying to diss the early stuff or anything, just pointing out that Mills helped shape Dredd and his world into what we know today. Those early comics are great pulpy fun.
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Lurdiak posted:I wasn't trying to diss the early stuff or anything, just pointing out that Mills helped shape Dredd and his world into what we know today. Those early comics are great pulpy fun. So it's kind of like how Lee/Kirby created and wrote the X-Men but it was Claremont who influenced the X-Men and their world that we all know.
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Nothing that extreme, it's just a tone thing. It's more like Miller on Batman.
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https://twitter.com/TJoyceChin/status/883471363586965504
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Those two moloids that you can see their faces are terrifying. Arthur Adams is so good. Shame he hasn't done interiors lately besides that terrible Guardians Team Up issue.
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What in God's name is this?
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Animal-Mother posted:What in God's name is this? 
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good god that credits list
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Synthbuttrange posted:good god that credits list my man, Gumby comics have been a murderers' row of exceptional talent  
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oh man non poser Kyle Baker art. 
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Gumby's Shadowy Dick Hand
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Jul 10, 2017 02:25
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We did not deserve the Gumby comics and so God took them away.
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Rhyno posted:We did not deserve the Gumby comics and so God took them away. We are cursed.
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A new series started literally last week.
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Yeah. That's where the Baker story is from, right? When it's cancelled, it's all your fault for not being on the ball, Rhyno!
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