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atholbrose posted:As much as I enjoyed Nier changing into a series of text adventures and then a survival horror game, I didn't really like being forced into a huge boss battle on going back to town with only 2 medicinal herbs and one healing potion. The isometric dungeon crawl made up for it, though. It was fun IMO.
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The trick is to start using healing chips.
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Jul 5, 2017 15:36
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Ain't any healing chips in Nier 1.
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Jul 5, 2017 15:39
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Too early, Nier is a Replicant and not YoRHa like 2B or 9S. 
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Jul 5, 2017 15:40
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Raxivace posted:That happened to me with the final phase of the boss in the desert temple place. By time I got to the final phase of the boss I had run out of healing items and was down to 1 HP so I had to clear that section without taking any damage. Yeah, that's the area where you hear the best music in the game, and only for that one spot. That couldn't possibly get old. Slightly disappointed there was no Gods Bound by Rules remix in Automata. I was looking for it.
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Jul 5, 2017 15:46
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but the official Nier Automata strategy guide contains some inner thoughts of the cast during scenes. It got translated recently. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TOfwtCb-j4xCjlttfAmn_tviYEfWsplIg565Ej5M9S8/edit?usp=sharing Some random excerpts: Chapter 1 2B felt a surge of emotions upon hearing how happy 9S sounded when she told him that he didn’t need to address her so formally. Chapter 3 9S is quite a bit more shocked by the birth of Adam than he lets on. That’s the first moment where he begins to doubt his own conviction that no matter how much the machines try to mimic humans, they will never be like them. He tries to rationalize it as ‘the machines are mimicking androids (as opposed to humans) because there’s strategic value in mimicking your enemies’, hence his somewhat guided question towards 2B asking her why the machines are trying to mimic androids. The whole thing still weighs heavy on his mind even when 2B tells him there’s no point in thinking about things you won’t understand, but his natural curiosity and desire to understand everything lead him to keep thinking even if he knows he’s following a trail of thought he should be abandoning. Highly recommend checking it out if you've beaten the game.
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Jul 7, 2017 03:42
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After getting Ending C I used the chapter select to go back and complete a couple of missed quests. How do I now go ahead and start Route D? If I load the save then press 'continue' it takes me to where I last used Chapter Select. Or is Route D just using the chapter select feature on the Route C chapters and making the other choice at the duel.
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Jul 8, 2017 03:04
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The Lone Badger posted:After getting Ending C I used the chapter select to go back and complete a couple of missed quests. How do I now go ahead and start Route D? If I load the save then press 'continue' it takes me to where I last used Chapter Select. You got it right with the last guess. Ending E should be easy enough to find from there after.
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Jul 8, 2017 03:06
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It's what you said in the spoiler text. Just take the other option.
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Jul 8, 2017 03:07
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So Nier's Route B, just like Automata's, exists mainly to make you feel bad for doing what you did the first time around while making you do it anyway. Now I'm working on C and D -- collect all the weapons? Really?
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Jul 9, 2017 07:36
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What? No. Or at least I did both those routes without collecting them all?
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Jul 9, 2017 07:40
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Synthbuttrange posted:What? No. Or at least I did both those routes without collecting them all? I'm just working on what the pop-up after ending B told me to do.
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Jul 9, 2017 07:45
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atholbrose posted:So Nier's Route B, just like Automata's, exists mainly to make you feel bad for doing what you did the first time around while making you do it anyway. Now I'm working on C and D -- collect all the weapons? Really? Yeah that's the requirements for NieR endings C and D.
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Jul 9, 2017 07:47
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Oh wait, Nier, not Niertomata.
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Jul 9, 2017 07:48
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IIRC, there's really nothing new in the C/D path except the endings. You could get away with just watching the endings on Youtube unless you want to 100% the game or experience the endings first-hand since they'd land a bigger punch that way.
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Jul 9, 2017 08:24
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Ending D is enchanced by the time you spent collecting all that junk. Just look up which quests give weapons since it actually doesn't take that long. It's way more merciful than having to collect and upgrade everything to 100% Automata
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Jul 9, 2017 09:03
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Mega64 posted:IIRC, there's really nothing new in the C/D path except the endings. You could get away with just watching the endings on Youtube unless you want to 100% the game or experience the endings first-hand since they'd land a bigger punch that way. There's quite a bit more there -- new cutscenes, a new boss fight, the end choice. Finished it all today. I straight-out bought 7 of the remaining 10 weapons; the other three came from quests. The worst part of those was scumming the aerial robot room on B2 of the Junk Heap for Machine Oil. It took maybe three hours, including some time watching cutscenes that C-- wanted to see again. I'd just played as I normally do, on the normal difficulty level, and I was massively over-leveled for the C and D endings. I died twice, I think, from being careless. I really believe Yoko Taro when he says he wants his games to be accessible to everyone. Nier, just like its sequel, is a great game. I'm very glad I took the time to exhume my Xbox 360 and play it through. I'm quite satisfied with the whole experience. It was quite interesting to see how the ideas and themes of the original were carried forward and iterated on in Automata. I'm upset that I didn't give the game a chance when I originally got it -- but I also am very happy that I got to play both of them for the first time close to each other. I might just continue my apparent trend of playing these games backwards and move on to Drakengard 3, which I also bought but barely played.
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Jul 9, 2017 21:42
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So I'm five hours into the game and so far....I'm not really feeling it. I mean it was pretty good until I got to the the two alien created androids boss fight. It turns out I was underleveled and could not beat them as I was only at level 11 or 12. So now I have to roam around the world map doing odd quests to level up and then pursue the story. Is there something I'm missing here? Maybe I am not using the plug-in chip system right (which seems clunky and odd)?
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Jul 9, 2017 22:46
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You can't beat them then. It's a scripted fight. Keep playing.
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Jul 9, 2017 23:10
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I'm five hours into the game and so far....I'm not really feeling it. Are you playing on Hard or Normal mode? Hard’s difficulty curve is pretty drat broken w/ boss fights; If you’re under leveled you’ll get one-shot (unless you’ve got great chips) and if you’re at or a little over leveled it can be a cakewalk.
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Jul 9, 2017 23:11
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Look Sir Droids posted:You can't beat them then. It's a scripted fight. Keep playing. They keep killing me and its a game over screen.
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Jul 9, 2017 23:12
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punk rebel ecks posted:They keep killing me and its a game over screen. Spam the dodge button. You may want to pump some levels and use an auto-heal chip if you're getting one or two shotted though. Bump the difficulty down if you need to.
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Jul 9, 2017 23:15
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I'm five hours into the game and so far....I'm not really feeling it. Being under leveled seems unimaginable to me. I wish it gave that much of a challenge on normal. Are you dodging a lot? Plug ins aren't necessary, but just equip ones that make your HP go up and make your attacks stronger and give you better defense, that's all there is to it.
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Jul 9, 2017 23:35
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punk rebel ecks posted:They keep killing me and its a game over screen. What difficulty are you playing on? Hard is kind of obscenely unfair at points. I'd try it on Normal. As others have noted, it's an unwinnable scripted fight. You don't have to actually damage them so spamming the dodge button until their speech ends should easily get you through it. If you don't mind a little humiliation, bump it down to easy and keep the auto chips turned on. It'll be literally impossible to die; the auto chips will make you dodge at exactly the right times to avoid all damage. It'll work on any encounter in the game, including the hardest bosses.
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Jul 9, 2017 23:47
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Are you kidding me!? The cutscene occurs like two seconds after i quit before...
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Jul 10, 2017 00:30
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punk rebel ecks posted:Are you kidding me!? The cutscene occurs like two seconds after i quit before... "In attacks on patience, chastity, and fortitude, the fun is to make the man yield just when (had he but known it) relief was almost in sight."
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Jul 10, 2017 00:50
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Also, don't worry about the parade escort side quest later. You're going to be super underleveled when you get it. I'm not sure why they give it to you that early. Don't try it until route B.
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Jul 10, 2017 00:57
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...! posted:Also, don't worry about the parade escort side quest later. You're going to be super underleveled when you get it. I'm not sure why they give it to you that early. Don't try it until route B. There's a handful of quests that really seem to be balanced more for route B. Like that one at the bottom of the canyon where the boss is like level 50. It's not really hard, it would just take like a solid half hour of attacking to beat if you're even like 10 levels too low.
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Jul 10, 2017 01:11
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I feel like the game would be significantly better if the levels system was just completely omitted.
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Jul 10, 2017 01:20
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At the King's Castle now. I mean, I'm enjoying the game so far, but not as much as I should be. Maybe Persona 5 really did wear me out......! posted:Also, don't worry about the parade escort side quest later. You're going to be super underleveled when you get it. I'm not sure why they give it to you that early. Don't try it until route B. Too late. Tried it and saw level 35 robots and said "gently caress it" and ran away. The Lone Badger posted:I feel like the game would be significantly better if the levels system was just completely omitted. It has to be somewhat of a RPG I guess as a nod to the series.
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Jul 10, 2017 01:32
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punk rebel ecks posted:It has to be somewhat of a RPG I guess as a nod to the series. You're still getting chips, and the fact that they are customisable makes them more of an RPG element than the levels.
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Jul 10, 2017 01:40
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punk rebel ecks posted:At the King's Castle now. I mean, I'm enjoying the game so far, but not as much as I should be. Maybe Persona 5 really did wear me out... Take a break. Enjoying poo poo is not a competition. There are no points for enjoying something more than somebody else, and if you're trying to make a metric like that up then you're gonna fall short of it every time.
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Jul 10, 2017 01:47
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punk rebel ecks posted:At the King's Castle now. I mean, I'm enjoying the game so far, but not as much as I should be. Maybe Persona 5 really did wear me out... It took until the C playthrough for Automata to really click with me. A and B were delightfully bizarre, but didn't really hit the bizarre heights that Taro Yoko's other games hit. C, though...
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Jul 10, 2017 01:51
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Take a break. Enjoying poo poo is not a competition. There are no points for enjoying something more than somebody else, and if you're trying to make a metric like that up then you're gonna fall short of it every time. True. There are so many games I want to play, but I'm currently at the stage and age of "I'm getting bored, am I no longer liking video games?" I still enjoy fighting games though, but still. Mega64 posted:It took until the C playthrough for Automata to really click with me. A and B were delightfully bizarre, but didn't really hit the bizarre heights that Taro Yoko's other games hit. C, though... Oh right this is one of those "it's cool to play multiple times through" games. Yeah it may go in the back burner for me or at least I'll chip at it seldomly.
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Jul 10, 2017 01:55
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punk rebel ecks posted:True. There are so many games I want to play, but I'm currently at the stage and age of "I'm getting bored, am I no longer liking video games?" I still enjoy fighting games though, but still. Don't let the phrasing confuse you, the separate "playthroughs" are more like chapter breaks.
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Jul 10, 2017 01:58
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Yeah route C is a whole new level of batshit insanity. I assumed it would (playable character spoiler)follow A2 before the murder of the King but instead it (actual major spoilers) akes place right after it turns out 9s is alive and continues with the Yorha just straight up getting wrecked by a virus.
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Jul 10, 2017 03:57
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punk rebel ecks posted:At the King's Castle now. I mean, I'm enjoying the game so far, but not as much as I should be. Maybe Persona 5 really did wear me out... I believe it's typical to gradually fall in love with it. Nothing you're saying is surprising to me. It's a game that keeps getting better until you're done with it and it keeps getting better in your mind the more you think about it. When I beat the first play through, I went "Well that was good, but it has nothing on the first Nier." Now I think it did surpass it. If you're enjoying it now, I can almost guarantee you'll love it by the end. It slowly builds. some bust on that guy fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Jul 10, 2017 |
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Jul 10, 2017 04:33
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Is there any way to get the Route-C cosmetics from the start of a (new) game?
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Jul 10, 2017 04:51
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Overall I felt the game had a less emotional story, but told it better than the first Nier. There's also no stupid plot twist that relies on the bad guys acting completely out of their interests, and I thought it was a lot easier to feel bad for the machines than the shades.
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Wrapping things up finally with this game. Even with the ridiculous of money I saved up, buying certain materials + upgrading all the weapons got pricey really friggin fast. Looking for the materials needed to upgrade Pod 3 to level 2. Natural water and simple gadgets, I think. After those weapons and pods are done, it'll be time to say hello to an old friend, then upgrade another weapon, then say hello to them again. This game was a blast though. God dang.
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