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I'm hoping that Don Jr. and whomever else is dumb enough that we get a moment like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rh9w-CYBcM
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Hollismason posted:I keep forgetting that Trump has another daughter. So does Trump.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:45
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farraday posted:Two male hookers and a horse costume? With a giant leather dildo.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:49
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DreamShipWrecked posted:This will at least be interesting because afaik Jr. doesn't have any confidentiality-based right to privacy right? They're claiming Trump wasn't at that meeting, so no, nothing from that meeting fits the executive privilege language.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:58
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Well even if Don Jr falls you can't charge two people with the same last name with the same crime. Double Jeopardy.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:00
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empty whippet box posted:Maybe, but they sure are acting quickly. We're sure to get a tweetstorm in the morning that will make it worse, too. Don Jr. meeting w/Russians is #FAKENEWS. Real story is Crooked H deal to sell Russians #URANIUM. Much worse collusion! No puppet!
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Jul 10, 2017 05:01
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Chilichimp posted:They're claiming Trump wasn't at that meeting, so no, nothing from that meeting fits the executive privilege language. Does executive privilege extend to acts before inauguration?
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Mantis42 posted:Well even if Don Jr falls you can't charge two people with the same last name with the same crime. Double Jeopardy. Relax, there are more than enough felonies and treasons here to go around.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:03
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twice burned ice posted:Don Jr. meeting w/Russians is #FAKENEWS. Real story is Crooked H deal to sell Russians #URANIUM. Much worse collusion! No puppet! It's going to be almost this exactly.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:05
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Mantis42 posted:Well even if Don Jr falls you can't charge two people with the same last name with the same crime. Double Jeopardy. He has the worst loving attorney.
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La Brea Carpet posted:Does executive privilege extend to acts before inauguration? I don't think executive privilege has any limit other than it has to pertain to the executive.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:07
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Chilichimp posted:I don't think executive privilege has any limit other than it has to pertain to the executive. Oh I actually know this. Executive privilege is reserved for traditionally executive functions and is generally absolute however it does not defeat Congressional investigations with specific criminal investigatory reasons where privilege must yield. In other words, you can't start a case with things that are protected by privilege, but once you have a case and can show an actual basis, the President cannot claim privilege. That said, privilege SHOULD be personal to the President, which is why Jeff Sessions was pissing everyone off when he refused to answer if Trump had told him to plead privilege.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:12
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And seeing that Jr. is not actually part of the government other than through nepotism there really are no protections other than the 5th amendment. And boy have we been reminded of it since hey Trump doesn't have any conflicts of interest because that's all being done through his kids!!! Now I just want to see if the DJT is cold enough to throw his own son under the bus (he is)
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Jul 10, 2017 05:16
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DreamShipWrecked posted:And seeing that Jr. is not actually part of the government other than through nepotism there really are no protections other than the 5th amendment. Trump will never admit to anything, ever, no matter what. He won't throw his son under the bus simply because that would mean admitting that any of this happened at all.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:17
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So basically the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia. I mean between Jeff Sessions, Michael Flynn, and now his own son it's pretty cut and dry, right? Nobody can possibly deny this, right?
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Jul 10, 2017 05:27
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Burt Buckle posted:Nobody can possibly deny this, right? Oh my sweet summer child
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Burt Buckle posted:So basically the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia. I mean between Jeff Sessions, Michael Flynn, and now his own son it's pretty cut and dry, right? 30% of the U.S. population and no I'm not joking.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:31
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Burt Buckle posted:So basically the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia. I mean between Jeff Sessions, Michael Flynn, and now his own son it's pretty cut and dry, right? I mean, is it really collusion if you're just showing up to hear what they have to say? He didn't use anything! He neither got nor used anything nor I mean did he really expect it probably, so I mean was it really collusion? Really really? And look they were all behaving as private citizens while looking for info on Clinton and it was tooootaaaally unrelated to the campaign, okay? They're just real patriots who wanted to take down $hillary "Benghazi" Clinton.
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TGLT posted:I mean, is it really collusion if you're just showing up to hear what they have to say? He didn't use anything! He neither got nor used anything nor I mean did he really expect it probably, so I mean was it really collusion? Really really? It actually is illegal for campaign members to seek aid from foreign nationals I know your being sarcastic
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The Glumslinger posted:It actually is illegal for campaign members to seek aid from foreign nationals Sure but that's one of three main lines of denial I can see. This isn't "really" collusion because, I mean, common sense, y'know? I mean what about that British guy? The other two being that maybe it was news about how Clinton was actually colluding with Russia, which I think I saw Fox running with, and Donny Jr and Manafort were acting as private citizens somehow.
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Burt Buckle posted:So basically the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia. I mean between Jeff Sessions, Michael Flynn, and now his own son it's pretty cut and dry, right? But if this doesn't at least matter in some way, then nothing will.
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Jul 10, 2017 06:04
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Crows Turn Off posted:A third of the population either thinks there was no collusion or even if there was collusion that it's no big deal. Good thing you only need 2/3s to impeach
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Jul 10, 2017 06:14
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The Glumslinger posted:Good thing you only need 2/3s to impeach
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Jul 10, 2017 06:35
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Our allies in Russia were just helping Trump dig up the TRUTH about crooked Hillary!
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Jul 10, 2017 06:35
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They did and their audience either doesn't care or full on supports it Edit: oh... OHHHHHH  Second I posted that it dawned on me
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Jul 10, 2017 06:37
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And I thought blasting detainees with ear splitting music 24/7 was too horrific an abuse of human rights. Nobody deserves to be forced the company of Bannon.
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Someone made an interesting post a few pages positing that electing trump may have "permanently" ruined the US's reputation on the world stage (the idea being that no matter how well we may manage to "fix things" we've proven that we're never more than one election away from electing a loving idiot). I wonder what impact a successful impeachment would have on that. Would that redeem us at all?
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Same Great Paste posted:I wonder what impact a successful impeachment would have on that. Would that redeem us at all? You'd need a whole new set of laws regarding government, instead of a giant pile of traditions that can be easily discarded.
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This person is not by any stretch of the imagination well. It's really weird to watch the unique ways in which Trump identity branding exacerbates certain pathologies.
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nimby posted:You'd need a whole new set of laws regarding government, instead of a giant pile of traditions that can be easily discarded. Eh, just changing senior federal law enforcement so that the president cannot fire them would do a lot (allow removal via impeachment through congress instead). That and electoral college & gerrymandering reform would do a lot. The reason this is all turning into an epochal crisis is that all the error correction mechanisms have failed due to political partisanship and structural biases in our system.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I can't even parse this Oh good, I thought I was losing my mind
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nimby posted:You'd need a whole new set of laws regarding government, instead of a giant pile of traditions that can be easily discarded. It would be amazing if Trump's real only lasting legacy was dozens of new "the president can't be a a sack of poo poo" laws.
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Aves Maria! posted:Oh good, I thought I was losing my mind I think the girl she tagged, TrumpGirlStrong, is supposed to be on Sean Hannity or something...? And that's why she's mentioning NYC, since TrumpGirlStrong is there and they were on the phone with each other. Also 9/11?
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Same Great Paste posted:It would be amazing if Trump's real o let lasting legacy was dozens of new "the president can't be a a sack of poo poo" laws. Didn't Georgia re-elect a GOP congressman who like beat and stalked his wife and had a girlfriend in Argentina? Like, all that stuff came out, and they still elected him? "Sack of poo poo" is a non-issue for these people
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I find it amazing that Trump and co met with lawyers for an organization which at the time was under investigation for money laundering through real estate purchases (spoiler alert Manafort's houses) who attempted to have a federal witness killed by tossing him off a roof (he survived) and whose case was settled by the US government without acknowledgment of guilt or fault for 6m (way below the half billion they were charge with laundering) after Trump fired the DA charged with prosecuting the case, Preet Bharara. There's basically zero chance that there wasn't a quid pro quo somewhere in this whole mess; there's too many connections to be coincidence.
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Same Great Paste posted:Someone made an interesting post a few pages positing that electing trump may have "permanently" ruined the US's reputation on the world stage (the idea being that no matter how well we may manage to "fix things" we've proven that we're never more than one election away from electing a loving idiot). when you hear about foreign countries impeaching/imprisoning/overthrowing their leaders does it make you think they're getting more stable?
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