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CC / VS you two have experience doing this, what do you think of their advice? https://twitter.com/DemSocialists/status/884449646889906177
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gotta canv dat rear end yo
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Jul 10, 2017 17:35
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SKULL.GIF posted:CC / VS you two have experience doing this, what do you think of their advice? My name's CC and I'm hear to say: I believe in JaneGate ever-y-day
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Jul 10, 2017 17:35
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It's kind of hard to talk to people when your eyes are two eggs carefully balanced on the bowl formed by your face, with "pupils" drawn on in Sharpie sort of puts them on their guard right out of the gate
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Jul 10, 2017 17:39
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loquacius posted:It's kind of hard to talk to people when your eyes are two eggs carefully balanced on the bowl formed by your face, with "pupils" drawn on in Sharpie its a pretty accurate depiction of a dsa member
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Jul 10, 2017 17:42
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loquacius posted:It's kind of hard to talk to people when your eyes are two eggs carefully balanced on the bowl formed by your face, with "pupils" drawn on in Sharpie yeah, 
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Jul 10, 2017 17:43
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Serf posted:its a pretty accurate depiction of a dsa member can confirm, our biggest expense is dry erase markers so we can change expressions
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Jul 10, 2017 17:45
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at least make the pupils point in the same direction ffs
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Jul 10, 2017 17:45
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Yinlock posted:like bernie's kind of on the very edge of the point where his body will start melting, i dont think he could physically do a campaign in 2020 You do know that gif that gets posted periodically of Bernie running to catch a train is literally from last year, right? Dude's in remarkably good shape for someone his age. Frijolero posted:
Hah trick question: CC doesn't actually believe in anything.
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Jul 10, 2017 17:46
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He certainly still seems agile enough to catch that hen apparently, based on that internet video that gets posted frequently onto this message board
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Jul 10, 2017 17:50
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livid leftists: we gotta go door to door and build a mass movement concerned citizen: you guys go on ahead i need to carry water for a right wing idiot's conspiracy theory
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Jul 10, 2017 17:56
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https://twitter.com/davelevinthal/status/884406855279226881 speaking of 2020 madness
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Jul 10, 2017 17:56
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Captain_Maclaine posted:You do know that gif that gets posted periodically of Bernie running to catch a train is literally from last year, right? Dude's in remarkably good shape for someone his age. yeah but how long is that gonna last i guess that's a question for 2020 though
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Jul 10, 2017 18:00
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SKULL.GIF posted:CC / VS you two have experience doing this, what do you think of their advice? there's a lot of incompleteness in the program listed there so i can't really judge it for sure. there is some very good advice there, though. i have to kind of fill in the blanks a bit. i would say: 1. typical campaign trainings are short & include a brief role-play to get people comfortable with their role. this is appropriate for campaigns because even a weak, scripted conversation will at least yield important data. for the dsa it is less appropriate, so i would recommend they invest more heavily in training their activists. it would be asking more of people, but getting a small core group of a dozen people who have completed a 5-6 hour training - or longer! - on talking to people at doors would yield significantly more value than 25 people with an hour of training. so you might have a big saturday training and then everyone there commits to signing up to canvass one time in the next couple of weeks. especially since the dsa has groups of strongly committed activists, you want to make sure you're using those people to maximum effect and that they understand how to properly interact with voters, recognizing that (at least initially) the people they are speaking to might not understand the issues very strongly or have very different values than the canvasser. the goal would be to have long form (15+ minute) productive conversations that lead to something tangible. this would also have the bonus of increasing the sustainability of your door-to-door operation, because people who feel very confident about their effectiveness will want to do that activity many times over. 2. petitions/commitment cards/etc are a very useful tool and they should be emphasized strongly. in organizing we use the concept of "ladder of engagement" which basically means an unactivated person can be gradually turned into an activist by asking them to take a simple action before later trying to get them more involved. asking someone to sign a petition is very easy, and you also should ask them for additional information - phone, email address, etc - so you can later contact them and ask them to take more action, like attend a rally/meeting. if you can yield a few hundred petition signatures with contact information, you will suddenly have a good base for expanding your membership, who will then do this same task later and further expand your lists. 3. although getting into gated apartments is difficult, i would point out that finding a way into those is likely imperative for a group like dsa. apartment renters are more likely mobile and young, and probably more likely to be sympathetic with dsa's goals. the easiest neighborhoods to canvass - homes & outside-facing condos, especially suburban ones - are also more likely to be wealthier homeowners. if your group has purchased a voter file with some phone data, and you encounter a door locked with a keypad, don't be afraid to just guess. the worst thing that can happen is you get in and then get kicked out after hitting a few doors. look for faded numbers on the keypad, or if it's new try using the last 4 digits of people's phone numbers as codes followed by a pound. many landlords are lazy and use that by default. 4. i do not recommend sending canvassers out in pairs, except for pairing up an inexperienced person with an experienced one the first time. beyond the fact that it makes some people uncomfortable & less engaging to be outnumbered 2-to-1 at their own door, you also end up canvassing at the rate/quality of the least effective person in the pair. it's best to break that habit early, and the number of conversations you are having will skyrocket.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:02
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Yinlock posted:yeah but how long is that gonna last As long as the sap runs clean in the spring, the mountains remain green, and the ice on Willoughby breaks up late, he will persevere.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:03
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Yinlock posted:yeah but how long is that gonna last 2020 is going to be Bernie Sanders, who won the primary despite hillmen latching on a rumor that his fingerwagging drains a year of life from all who witness it vs Dwayne The Rock Johnson, who called the president of the United States a candyass on national tv.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:05
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Agean90 posted:https://twitter.com/davelevinthal/status/884406855279226881 Lol gently caress this poo poo
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Jul 10, 2017 18:10
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https://twitter.com/DemRulz/status/884455815465357312 lol quote:In addition to the revised SPP, the DNC has made an unprecedented investment in local Democratic organizing by establishing a $10-million State Party Innovation Fund (SPIF), the largest-ever DNC investment in state parties and their organizing efforts. Under the program, state parties will compete for grants to create and support grassroots engagement programs for millennial and youth voters, rural and base constituencies, and other electoral organizing efforts to win elections. The SPIF grant program also includes $500,000 in dedicated grants for Democrats Abroad, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the territories.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:12
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Feldegast42 posted:Lol gently caress this poo poo it's unauthorized by the man him self
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Jul 10, 2017 18:13
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lmao fuckin compete for grants??
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Jul 10, 2017 18:14
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$10k a month per state party and $10 million in grants for innovative organizing programs. can't wait to see all that money directed toward the personal friends of the chair
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Serf posted:lmao fuckin compete for grants?? everything :clap: is :clap: a :clap: market
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Jul 10, 2017 18:14
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100% of all dnc investments should be grants, because state parties should be forced to justify every dime they get from the dnc as they have repeatedly proven they will waste every last dollar they get. also the dnc shouldn't be awarding the grants, but instead it should be me.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:16
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Concerned Citizen posted:100% of all dnc investments should be grants, because state parties should be forced to justify every dime they get from the dnc as they have repeatedly proven they will waste every last dollar they get. also the dnc shouldn't be awarding the grants, but instead it should be me. i mean, the counterargument is the national party wasting it on consultants who talk about Panera Bread America
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Joementum posted:i mean, the counterargument is the national party wasting it on consultants who talk about Panera Bread America that's why i should be awarding the grants
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https://twitter.com/chicagosmayor/status/884457083634147329 https://twitter.com/demsocialists/status/884459592331268096
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Jul 10, 2017 18:18
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i had no idea bernie wrote another book but apparently this one is an adaptation of his last book to a YA level which is extremely smart because now liberals will read it
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Jul 10, 2017 18:18
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Concerned Citizen posted:there's a lot of incompleteness in the program listed there so i can't really judge it for sure. there is some very good advice there, though. i have to kind of fill in the blanks a bit. i would say: thanks for the writeup. #3 seems sketchy. #4 seems important, combined with #1. you should send this stuff to the dsa. actually you should join the dsa.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:18
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bahahahahahahahahaha
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Jul 10, 2017 18:19
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So the Dems saw what Sears did and decided "that looks like a good, sustainable way to run an organization."
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Jul 10, 2017 18:19
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lol if you don't think half the state parties won't spend this money on serving lobster instead of chicken at their next fundraiser.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:19
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*dangles money over state parties* "fight for it you dogs"
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Jul 10, 2017 18:20
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bernie will run against trump and lose and it'll be mcgovern going down in flames in '72 all over again
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Jul 10, 2017 18:20
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Concerned Citizen posted:100% of all dnc investments should be grants, because state parties should be forced to justify every dime they get from the dnc as they have repeatedly proven they will waste every last dollar they get. also the dnc shouldn't be awarding the grants, but instead it should be me. no it should be me and I should be paid handsomely and get a job as a consultant in whatever state governments accidentally win to advise on introducing means testing into public employee pay structures and retirement
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Jul 10, 2017 18:25
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fits my needs posted:no it should be me and I should be paid handsomely and get a job as a consultant in whatever state governments accidentally win to advise on introducing means testing into public employee pay structures and retirement sure but we're gonna pay you very little. 120k is what we're thinkin
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Jul 10, 2017 18:26
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CC echoes some convincing points on canvassing I've heard from the experienced trainers and canvassers in my DSA chapter and what they've instituted. There is a big variance in political experience between chapter to chapter. In mine the leadership is basically all current and former union and political staffers and they seem like they know what they're doing, but other chapters are just getting off the ground.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:28
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Serf posted:sure but we're gonna pay you very little. 120k is what we're thinkin That's unreasonable. How do you expect him to maintain his cost of living on such a measly salary?
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Jul 10, 2017 18:31
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No State Party Left Behind
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Jul 10, 2017 18:34
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Concerned Citizen posted:lol if you don't think half the state parties won't spend this money on serving lobster instead of chicken at their next fundraiser. Ellison would have made them serve Burger King
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Concerned Citizen posted:as a longtime bernie fan, lol the gently caress you are
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