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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


Another victory for leftism

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fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Serf posted:

sure but we're gonna pay you very little. 120k is what we're thinkin

I'm not accepting anything but at least half of Chelseas salary at CNN for the same amount of work

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

bernie will run against trump and lose and it'll be mcgovern going down in flames in '72 all over again

better the right win then a leftist gets in power

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Concerned Citizen posted:

3. although getting into gated apartments is difficult, i would point out that finding a way into those is likely imperative for a group like dsa. apartment renters are more likely mobile and young, and probably more likely to be sympathetic with dsa's goals. the easiest neighborhoods to canvass - homes & outside-facing condos, especially suburban ones - are also more likely to be wealthier homeowners. if your group has purchased a voter file with some phone data, and you encounter a door locked with a keypad, don't be afraid to just guess. the worst thing that can happen is you get in and then get kicked out after hitting a few doors. look for faded numbers on the keypad, or if it's new try using the last 4 digits of people's phone numbers as codes followed by a pound. many landlords are lazy and use that by default.

In case anyone missed it I would just like to highlight this really good urban-exploration tip provided by Concerned Citizen

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

SKULL.GIF posted:

thanks for the writeup. #3 seems sketchy. #4 seems important, combined with #1. you should send this stuff to the dsa. actually you should join the dsa.

#3 is sketchy but unfortunately, trespassing (which carries no penalties if you cause no damage & leave when asked without causing commotion) is a necessary evil for effective organizing work. one of the most important movements impeding the mobilization of people has been the gradual elimination or closing of public (as in shared, not as in government-owned) spaces to political engagement. in the past, one could, for example, register voters at a sidewalk outside of a large retail store. in many places though, people will simply drive from their apartment to a big box retail store that restricts activity to a road with no sidewalk. at some point, you follow the principle of "ask for forgiveness, not permission" as the most important groups to mobilize are simply the hardest to reach. ultimately you should never ask your volunteers to do somethign they aren't comfortable with, so reserve those doors to your boldest people.

also fun fact, in mass you actually have the right to gather signatures to get on the ballot on private property, as your free speech rights are seen to outweigh the rights of the private property owners.

also unfortunately i will not join the dsa as these days i can no longer financially afford to do this sort of work for free.

Concerned Citizen has issued a correction as of 18:49 on Jul 10, 2017

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



if bernie or someone like him wins the nom a number of bad dems are gonna abandon the democrats and say everyone has to vote third party like when the bad french socialists jumped ship to macron when hamon won or the blairites told people to vote lib dem in the british election.

the bad dems all abandoning the party and joining the republicans or a rump third party is inevitable anyway though.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010


just posting the whole thing because what else do you even say to this

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Shear Modulus posted:

if bernie or someone like him wins the nom a number of bad dems are gonna abandon the democrats and say everyone has to vote third party like when the bad french socialists jumped ship to macron when hamon won or the blairites told people to vote lib dem in the british election.

the bad dems all abandoning the party and joining the republicans or a rump third party is inevitable anyway though.

Yeah I'm afraid that if Bernie or someone leftist gets the nom its going to be a threeway between him, Zuck/Bloomberg and Trump. The dems split the vote and Trump gets in with a vote by the House :lol:

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Office Pig posted:

just posting the whole thing because what else do you even say to this

you are going to see more and more of this in the next couple decades, because africa is projected to have 2.5 billion people by 2050 and the rest of the planet isn't going to accept that passively

especially not when climate change starts displacing them, or if they start consuming resources and outputting carbon/waste at even half the rate of developed countries

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

this is exactly why culture war must be abandoned in favor of class war

deadgoon has issued a correction as of 19:07 on Jul 10, 2017

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

This doesn't strike me as a particularly inspiring message, but I guess it's a step up from "the ACA is good bc the ACA is great."

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'm never gonna take overpopulation bullshit seriously when the highest pops. are brown people, yet the biggest polluters and resource suckers are Western multinationals .

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Willa Rogers posted:

This doesn't strike me as a particularly inspiring message, but I guess it's a step up from "the ACA is good bc the ACA is great."



sounds like half a loaf to me

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Frijolero posted:

I'm never gonna take overpopulation bullshit seriously when the highest pops. are brown people, yet the biggest polluters and resource suckers are Western multinationals .

it's actually china, op

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015

Shear Modulus posted:

if bernie or someone like him wins the nom a number of bad dems are gonna abandon the democrats and say everyone has to vote third party like when the bad french socialists jumped ship to macron when hamon won or the blairites told people to vote lib dem in the british election.

the bad dems all abandoning the party and joining the republicans or a rump third party is inevitable anyway though.

I wonder how many of the worst bad dems were Bush voters if you scratch even a little bit. IIRC Kurt Eichenwald voted Bush twice and still peddles green party dolchtoss bullshit. But yeah, I sincerely worry if the left of the party actually won it would end up with a split that would grab a lot of the shittier suburban dems with them.

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
"of course im a democrat, but i wish the democrats were socialist instead of republican-lite" -- every dem-leaning person under the age of 35

"i want to suck the lifeforce out of the young just as i've done to the earth itself" -- every person over 40 regardless of political identification

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

nopants posted:

Lady pooped pants we so good news please click world is over

i understand these words separately but not put together

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol the gently caress you are

no jokes zone

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Frijolero posted:

I'm never gonna take overpopulation bullshit seriously when the highest pops. are brown people, yet the biggest polluters and resource suckers are Western multinationals .
OK but if you want everyone to live as good as whitey (which by people arguing for higher min. wage/guaranteed work they also believe is not opulent enough in many cases) surely you can see how this is a problem

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


jBrereton posted:

OK but if you want everyone to live as good as whitey (which by people arguing for higher min. wage/guaranteed work they also believe is not opulent enough in many cases) surely you can see how this is a problem

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

jBrereton posted:

OK but if you want everyone to live as good as whitey (which by people arguing for higher min. wage/guaranteed work they also believe is not opulent enough in many cases) surely you can see how this is a problem

Macron has a solution

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015

jBrereton posted:

OK but if you want everyone to live as good as whitey (which by people arguing for higher min. wage/guaranteed work they also believe is not opulent enough in many cases) surely you can see how this is a problem

I can see how equivocating between the absolute poorest westerners and the west as a whole is indeed a problem, yes.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

jBrereton posted:

OK but if you want everyone to live as good as whitey (which by people arguing for higher min. wage/guaranteed work they also believe is not opulent enough in many cases) surely you can see how this is a problem

higher min wage = transfer of existing wealth, not greater overall consumption. the west's issue wrt overconsumption is waste. higher concentration of wealth leads to greater waste, and in general without regulation/taxation the system encourages more wasteful consumption that does not increase quality of living.

Concerned Citizen has issued a correction as of 19:27 on Jul 10, 2017

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Condiv posted:

I asked r/ess why they hated the sandanistas if they were democrats and not pro-Reagan. they said it's cause they hate america and promptly banned me.

At least r/ess admitted they hate america.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


fits my needs posted:

Macron has a solution

A great start would be crushing the Christian groups actively preventing birth control and condoms from being used in Africa (and everywhere else, for that matter)

I'm amazed we just passively let them get away with that for decades, especially as it's bigly exacerbated the HIV epidemic

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
https://twitter.com/joeprince___/status/884463860736028672


la suck zone

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
"There's too many people in the world!!"

-Fat gringos with two cars


Maybe stop concern-trolling about overpopulation and enact full communism so multinationals can stop polluting our air and water.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
that's only the second time he said something racist about Africans since he's been elected

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Kurtofan posted:

that's only the second time he said something racist about Africans since he's been elected
Do you count "El Khomri came up with my piece of poo poo law, blame her" as an attack on african women from his socialist days or no

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
Rich aristocrat banker is racist as hell lol. I wonder how quickly he can change France labor standards to those of the US to become more "competitive"?

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
i feel dirty just c/p'ing the link, i hope this worthless POS is one of the first against the wall
http://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/liberals-shouldnt-tolerate-the-loony-left/

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Concerned Citizen posted:

at some point, you follow the principle of "ask for forgiveness, not permission" as the most important groups to mobilize are simply the hardest to reach.

in conclusion, remember the words of a famous organizer:

say what you wanna say
let the words fall out
honestly
i wanna see you be brave

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Willa Rogers posted:

This doesn't strike me as a particularly inspiring message, but I guess it's a step up from "the ACA is good bc the ACA is great."



so r his rally props going to count as unindicted co-conspirators?

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
People always forget that the only way to stop tribalism between two different groups, is to unite them against an even bigger common enemy.

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star
I'm glad macron is finally sharing some of those extremely complicated thoughts he's been thinking.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
:obama:

https://twitter.com/neeratanden/status/861268048682119170

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
my original guess on the france goes facist/superleft timeline was like 10 years but given what macron's saying i'm now going with 5.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Is this like the Dems Nikki Haley or something?

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

fits my needs posted:

Is this like the Dems Nikki Haley or something?

:chloe:

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Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
the neat thing about macron is you can pretty much see what a Hillary Clinton presidency would look like and surprise it's loving terrible.

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