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iospace posted:You shut your whore mouth. Popularity != sport
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Hey hey hey I know what will give us more mainstream credibility, let's completely de value our championship so that we can try to boost ratings at Homestead Miami Yup, and shove Atlanta somewhere where it doesn't matter. Though racing as a whole is on a major decline. The loss of tobacco backing it was a huge blow, and we're still suffering the effects. Oh, and NASCAR finally gave into fans and is introducing a road course in the chase (or playoffs, whatever). loving. Charlotte. Roval.
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Mr. France sir, I was thinking maybe we could invest interest in the sport with some more interesting tracks like Bristol "gently caress that, give me a few more 1.5 mile ovals"
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Jul 10, 2017 20:01
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if racing cars is a sport than so is repairing watches, playing chess, or collecting stamps
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Metapod posted:Popularity != sport an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. So yeah it is a sport
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Jul 10, 2017 20:02
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Flikken posted:an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. Now, if you'll let me explain the intricacies of having buy scripts for my Counter-Strike: Global Offensive sponsored tournament team....
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SHOAH NUFF posted:if racing cars is a sport than so is repairing watches, playing chess, or collecting stamps You are not putting massive physical stresses on yourself that you have to be in good physical shape to function in with chess
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Jul 10, 2017 20:04
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As someone who knows nothing about NASCAR, what's the difference between "The Chase for the Championship" and what they were doing before?
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Flikken posted:an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. ...and which cannot be done at even a moderate level while drinking beer (this excludes most of the usual questionable suspects, such as chess, bowling, and baseball).
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Jul 10, 2017 20:05
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Mr. France sir, I was thinking maybe we could invest interest in the sport with some more interesting tracks like Bristol From what I understand, part of why they're so popular is because you can build a 100k person grandstand on the front stretch.
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Jul 10, 2017 20:05
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I cant imagine actually going to a racetrack to watch a bunch of cards drive in a circle (oval, whatever) for hours on end.
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Jul 10, 2017 20:06
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Is it a sport or not argument aside, I find NASCAR painfully boring and I can sit down and watch the PGA...
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Jul 10, 2017 20:06
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Flikken posted:an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. Ah yes the physical exertion of sitting for hours and driving
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Jul 10, 2017 20:08
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Eli Wiggum posted:As someone who knows nothing about NASCAR, what's the difference between "The Chase for the Championship" and what they were doing before? Basically, before the chase, it was whoever had the best average finish (with a couple bonuses for leading a lap and leading the most laps in a race) won the championship. Then Matt Kenseth came along, and won the championship while only winning one race. Mind you, this was when NASCAR was really taking off. So they changed everything to emphasize wins more, with a "win and you're in" thing for the last part of the season where only a dozen drivers could win the Cup. Then the made it sort of round based where you can win and automatically move on, and then the best finisher of the remaining drivers in the last race wins it all. They're constantly changing it too. AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I cant imagine actually going to a racetrack to watch a bunch of cards drive in a circle (oval, whatever) for hours on end. Road courses are more fun, if you ask me (obviously some people will disagree and that's just fine), but it's harder to see all the action at once.
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iospace posted:From what I understand, part of why they're so popular is because you can build a 100k person grandstand on the front stretch. Fair, although it was kind of funny seeing Bristol slowly turn into a literal bowl Eli Wiggum posted:As someone who knows nothing about NASCAR, what's the difference between "The Chase for the Championship" and what they were doing before? Imagine if you had the playoffs and still let everyone else compete for funsies It used to be who had the most points at the end of the season won, like a Soccer league But they wanted to have the drama of "playoffs" but didn't want to reduce the 43 car field so for the last ten races of the season the scores were reset and only the top 10 racers in the points could keep racing for points and the other people were just there for the gently caress of it. Then they decided they wanted wins to matter more than points and created an even worse system
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Metapod posted:Ah yes the physical exertion of sitting for hours and driving Well it gets hot in there and also sometimes you have to turn
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Metapod posted:Ah yes the physical exertion of sitting for hours and driving These guys are being put under similar exertions as fighter pilots.
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iospace posted:They're constantly changing it too. I legit have no idea how they determine the rules anymore and I bet 60% of fans can't either
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Flikken posted:These guys are being put under similar exertions as fighter pilots. Yup. There was a CART race scheduled for Texas Motor Speedway. It's a high banked oval. In 900+ HP cars. They had to cancel the race because they were pulling so much Gs in the turns there were gray-outs and g-LOC concerns.
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Jul 10, 2017 20:11
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NHRA moved to a playoff style format, but given the nature of drag racing, no one really noticed in the end.
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Jul 10, 2017 20:13
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Flikken posted:These guys are being put under similar exertions as fighter pilots. Counterargument -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9fB1IcTD48
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Jul 10, 2017 20:14
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If it ain't got Cole Trickle, I ain't watching 
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I'd love to see some of the same people arguing that car racing isn't a sport get into a Nascar or whatever and try to drive it because the argument is always Metapod posted:Ah yes the physical exertion of sitting for hours and driving Like it's some super easy thing
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Jul 10, 2017 20:16
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don't you loving talk poo poo about Dick Trickle hockles
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Jul 10, 2017 20:16
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lol at goons poo poo-talking auto racing while sitting behind a keyboard
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Jul 10, 2017 20:16
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I only went to a single NASCAR race back when I was a kid, but it was a lot of fun. Simply standing next to the track as 40+ cars rush past at 170 miles an hour is a hell of a rush.
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Jul 10, 2017 20:16
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Joey Freshwater posted:I'd love to see some of the same people arguing that car racing isn't a sport get into a Nascar or whatever and try to drive it because the argument is always I remember back when NASCAR used to have celebrities sit in the passenger side of a car during pre-race and the result was always pants-wetting terror
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Joey Freshwater posted:I'd love to see some of the same people arguing that car racing isn't a sport get into a Nascar or whatever and try to drive it because the argument is always I'll do it, get me all the stuff
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Jul 10, 2017 20:17
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Hockles posted:Counterargument -- Dick Trickle  He... went out in a very sad way.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:don't you loving talk poo poo about Dick Trickle hockles I'm not poo poo-talking it. Those guys have reflexes much faster than mine. But, it's 2017 and we have to be accepting of all competitions being identified as sports and the participants identifying as athletes. Much like the Magic The Gathering tournaments that were on ESPN 2 at 4:30am 15-20 years ago.
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Jul 10, 2017 20:18
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Flikken posted:These guys are being put under similar exertions as fighter pilots. I see no cars shooting bullets
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iospace posted:Dick Trickle fffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk We used to call celebrating something prematurely a "Dick Trickle Burnout"
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Jul 10, 2017 20:19
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Hockles posted:Counterargument -- 
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I remember back when NASCAR used to have celebrities sit in the passenger side of a car during pre-race and the result was always pants-wetting terror https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtcbsi8itHw&t=230s
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Plus nascar was the sport that gave us Jocko Flocko, the monkey that rode along during a race and they had to stop the race because he attacked the driver.
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Jul 10, 2017 20:20
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My all time favorite Nascar moment was when Elliot Sadler after crashing at Talladega said "I just want to finish the next race here on all four wheels" He then finished the next race at Talladega literally upside-down across the finish line
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Also, some people only watch racing to maybe catch something like this: http://i.imgur.com/Mk7Efsp.mp4
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did I just watch someone die
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Eli Wiggum posted:did I just watch someone die Nope! Walked away. Won a race a month later.
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No and the car that ran beneath won the race.
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