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Air traffic control is a notoriously high-stress job, and supposedly all the controllers are chain-smokers and on whatever legal or illegal stimulants they can find 24/7 because if you gently caress up you kill hundreds of people instantly.
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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!
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Jul 9, 2017 02:10
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Finger Prince posted:Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue! I picked the wrong week to age.
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Jul 9, 2017 02:40
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Sagebrush posted:Air traffic control is a notoriously high-stress job, and supposedly all the controllers are chain-smokers and on whatever legal or illegal stimulants they can find 24/7 because if you gently caress up you kill hundreds of people instantly. Most of us don't even take legal, OTC medications for valid minor medical complaints because we don't want to be disqualified. The image of controllers chainsmoking in a dimly lit basement is archaic, and wrong. (Now we chain 5hr energys in a dimly lit basement.)
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Jul 9, 2017 02:44
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If there's one word to describe how ferretking sounds on the radios it's stressed
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Jul 9, 2017 02:52
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I don't know how much control you get over where you're assigned if you take an ATC job, but there are plenty of jobs that seem reasonably low stress. The controllers at CYBW always sound stressed as gently caress when there's 6 aircraft in the circuit and arrivals and departures going on, but the folks at Edmonton FSS always seem chill, and the Calgary Terminal guys on the graveyard shift never sound stressed. Working "radio" rather than tower at a lower-traffic airport doesn't seem too bad either -- is that a thing in the US? Basically, they operate at MF airports and provide weather and "advisories" (sometimes with radar, sometimes without) but can't issue instructions or clearances (so you're basically free to ignore them at your own risk, although I can't see why you would).
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Jul 9, 2017 02:59
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PT6A posted:I don't know how much control you get over where you're assigned if you take an ATC job None fml
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Jul 9, 2017 03:20
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two_beer_bishes posted:None fml Oh right, I read that in the ATC thread. Out of curiosity, have you considered seeing if you qualify as a skilled immigrant to Canada (or somewhere else) on the basis of the training and experience you already have? It's probably not 100% ideal, but it'd likely be better than going to Alaska. Edmonton FIR in particular is loving huge, I imagine there's a need for employees and it's not very terrible here.
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Jul 9, 2017 03:28
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IIRC the only real control you have over where you end up as ATC in Canada is if you get CT'ed. "CT" meaning "ceased training", in other words, you flunked out of the IFR controller stream and ended up in the local controller stream, or worse still, the Flight Service Specialist stream.
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Jul 9, 2017 05:36
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Sagebrush posted:Sketchy? Like "a pallet of lithium batteries" sketchy or "a rack of atomic bombs" sketchy? Don't know, they're quite shy about telling the general public what the contents of any cargo ops is, let alone when they've been parked over there! We get some very old 747s coming and going from Tripoli every so often. Also, that An-12s sister ship is coming in today (UR-CGV) from Gothenburg. Bit of a coincidence.
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Jul 9, 2017 09:16
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I would say the only big threat to ATC jobs in the short term is if they take another stab at privatizing the industry and manage to...slip it in under the radar. 
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Sagebrush posted:Air traffic control is a notoriously high-stress job, and supposedly all the controllers are chain-smokers and on whatever legal or illegal stimulants they can find 24/7 because if you gently caress up you kill hundreds of people instantly. Eh. My dad was an air traffic controller for 35ish years, about half of which was spent doing approach control. Drug abuse isn't really a thing I ever heard about being a problem. Doesn't surprise me since if you ever piss hot you're turbofucked. A fair few marriages can't survive the weird hours and I'd say that the hardest thing aside from the stress is the shift work and sedentry lifestyle also tends to be paired with bad eating habits. That all tends to have negative health effects. Pretty much every controller I ever met tended to think the same way. A lot of black humor that you tend to see amongst nurses and emergency service type people. Bunch of fuckin' weirdos the lot of them (my dad included). Its kind of hard to explain. Carth Dookie fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Jul 9, 2017 |
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Jul 9, 2017 09:39
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PT6A posted:Oh right, I read that in the ATC thread. Out of curiosity, have you considered seeing if you qualify as a skilled immigrant to Canada (or somewhere else) on the basis of the training and experience you already have? It's probably not 100% ideal, but it'd likely be better than going to Alaska. Edmonton FIR in particular is loving huge, I imagine there's a need for employees and it's not very terrible here. Not an option if I want my marriage to last. If this poo poo doesn't work out I'm going back into flying.
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Jul 9, 2017 11:50
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Guy acts like manic over the Pacific, has poo poo beaten out of him by flight attendants, fellow passangers
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Nebakenezzer posted:Guy acts like manic over the Pacific, has poo poo beaten out of him by flight attendants, fellow passangers Supposedly he was flying on a family member's dependent pass so the dykwim probably came from his mom being the gate agent of the month in April 2012 or something.
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Midjack posted:Supposedly he was flying on a family member's dependent pass so the dykwim probably came from his mom being the gate agent of the month in April 2012 or something. What?
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Jul 9, 2017 16:47
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The Ferret King posted:What? Do you know who I am?
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xthetenth posted:Do you know who I am? Yeah, that should have been dykwia.
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two_beer_bishes posted:Not an option if I want my marriage to last. If this poo poo doesn't work out I'm going back into flying. I heard the regionals are hiring like mad, some are even offering signing bonuses! 
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Jul 9, 2017 20:17
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sellouts posted:If there's one word to describe how ferretking sounds on the radios it's robotic ftfy
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Jul 9, 2017 20:30
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What's the tread's take on Essential Air Service? My knee-jerk is to want to support it just because Trump want to cut it, but I know that's shallow. Is it actually effective?
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Kilonum posted:ftfy I got similar feedback once. A Prowler "died" during an exercise because their ears didn't perk up at any of my three or four "threat" calls. I guess they were used to controllers sounding panicky, which seems about par for the course from when I've worked with Navy AIC.
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Platonicsolid posted:What's the tread's take on Essential Air Service? My knee-jerk is to want to support it just because Trump want to cut it, but I know that's shallow. Is it actually effective? It makes sense for places that aren't otherwise accessible. I'm not sure how many of those exist in the lower 48 but there are certainly places in Alaska and Canada that depend on air service. Subsidising flights to places that are a 30 minute drive from a larger airport is just stupid, though. That's closer than I am to either of the airports that serve my city -- considerably so if there's traffic. And don't get me started about Leduc International Airport
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Platonicsolid posted:What's the tread's take on Essential Air Service? My knee-jerk is to want to support it just because Trump want to cut it, but I know that's shallow. Is it actually effective? Effective at what? The point of EAS was to accomodate people who were opposed to airline deregulation who said "But if you let airlines set their own routes then there are these small communities that won't be able to access air travel." Which, for a lot of the communities served via EAS, is total bullshit, because there are big airports an hour's drive away. Phanatic fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jul 10, 2017 |
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Jul 10, 2017 16:30
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Decatur is particularly egregious
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mods please namechange to Egregious Decatur
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Jul 10, 2017 19:45
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EAS has both a real reason to exist and communities that need it, and a lot of waste with communities that are being served without need, and thus needs cleaning up. But I don't trust this administrator to do that intelligently or responsibly so I'd rather they not touch it at all.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Decatur is particularly egregious Illinois, Alabama, or Georgia? trick question, I know
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FuturePastNow posted:Illinois, Alabama, or Georgia? Texas!
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Jul 10, 2017 23:20
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because the last time I was in my smelly hometown of Decatur, Illanoise, I got to see the daily Cessna "airliner" land at the airport and take off again within about 20 minutes.
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Jul 11, 2017 00:39
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Decatur, IL: birthplace of barbed wire.
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Looks like 16 people killed in a C-130 refueling crash just outside of my hometown in the Mississippi Delta (it was coming from Memphis): http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/35851293/update-16-people-on-board-military-c-130-killed-in-leflore-county-plane-crash They think it exploded in mid-air.
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Jul 11, 2017 03:46
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Leaving Millington? Wow that sucks.
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Jul 11, 2017 05:37
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Well this sounded exciting http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/air-canada-sfo-taxiway-1.4198946 quote:An Air Canada plane narrowly averted a disaster after it almost landed on a taxiway with four other planes on it in San Francisco Friday night. 
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Jul 11, 2017 08:36
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Was Harrison Ford the pilot?
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"Don't get'cher y-fronts all inna knot, eh? I kept tellin' Wayne sumthin' didn't feel right yeh know, but he was all like 'the ILS is all loonie, eh.' Hoser."
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priznat posted:Well this sounded exciting The pilot apparently said he could see the "runway". I remember from playing MS Flight Simulator 4 that the lights for a taxiway and the lights for a runway are really different. Is it not quite so different in real life?
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drunkill posted:Was Harrison Ford the pilot? KTVU is calling NTSB to confirm right now.
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Platystemon posted:Decatur, IL: birthplace of barbed wire. I believe you will find you are thinking of Dekalb, IL.
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Buttcoin purse posted:The pilot apparently said he could see the "runway". I remember from playing MS Flight Simulator 4 that the lights for a taxiway and the lights for a runway are really different. Is it not quite so different in real life? Runway lights don't always work. I doubt the Canadian crew has the excuse that the relief crew on a 12 hour flight became very ill though.
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