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Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM
The happiest place on earth with Chinese characteristics.

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Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Had a little China experience when I was on holidays in the UK recently.

A few minutes before we went to check into our hotel, about 40 elderly Chinese folks showed up completely out of the blue and jammed up the checkin desk for over an hour. They had no reservation, they literally just walked into the hotel with 40+ people and asked for 20 odd rooms. They stayed for only one day. Amazing planning there.

Got several free drinks to make up for it at least.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Spatial posted:

Had a little China experience when I was on holidays in the UK recently.

A few minutes before we went to check into our hotel, about 40 elderly Chinese folks showed up completely out of the blue and jammed up the checkin desk for over an hour. They had no reservation, they literally just walked into the hotel with 40+ people and asked for 20 odd rooms. They stayed for only one day. Amazing planning there.

Got several free drinks to make up for it at least.

Mama and baba go to have a look at the foreigners.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Lmao Shanghai Disneyland. How are HK Disneyland and Ocean Park doing with the ~more patriotic customers~ going to Shanghai instead?

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

webmeister posted:

Not defending this at all, but IMO there's one country on earth which hasn't earned the right to complain about the poor behaviour of tourists
Another aspect of this is someone sent me this link today and said "SO TERRIBLE!!!"
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/86GixwjKNlruSzwmWuxRHg

It's an article about how SPOOKY STRICT the US immigration system might become under Trump. I used Google to translate it and had an LOL at how scared they are about not being able to flee with their piles of money to the USA. I liked that they used a photo of some random Portuguese document with "Chinesa" written on it, which as nothing to do with US immigration.

quote:

The United States has begun screening for people who have green cards, including those who have enjoyed benefits during the United States, who have been assessed as strict, and those who have taken food vouchers and who have enjoyed free lunch at school will be the target.
It says that the time is coming soon when foreigners can go to America and get on welfare benefits and get free healthcare and their babies born in the US are automatically US citizens, and I am wondering how many rocks they were smoking when they wrote this article.

quote:

This almost declares the end of the American dream of living in the United States with a green card, living by the bottom of the welfare of the "comfort" life.
My reply of "LOL, does China even have an immigration system? I can't even get a hotel room in most hotels because I am a foreigner. Chinese shouldn't complain" was met with shock and an unsure "Oh..."

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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:backtowork:

Spatial posted:

Had a little China experience when I was on holidays in the UK recently.

A few minutes before we went to check into our hotel, about 40 elderly Chinese folks showed up completely out of the blue and jammed up the checkin desk for over an hour. They had no reservation, they literally just walked into the hotel with 40+ people and asked for 20 odd rooms. They stayed for only one day. Amazing planning there.

Got several free drinks to make up for it at least.

I was doing a street performance once, and a random Chinese woman and her family walks up to my friend and I to ask where a hotel is. Our Mandarin is lovely but we try to help her, asking what the name of the hotel is, what street etc. Turns out she just came to HK with her family with no hotel booking and was just walking around trying to find one.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Imperialist Dog posted:

I was doing a street performance once, and a random Chinese woman and her family walks up to my friend and I to ask where a hotel is. Our Mandarin is lovely but we try to help her, asking what the name of the hotel is, what street etc. Turns out she just came to HK with her family with no hotel booking and was just walking around trying to find one.

This is how a lot of porns start.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Are you overstaying a visa or something haier?

Used to be getting a hotel room was a never a problem they just wanted to photocopy your passport or something.

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009

hakimashou posted:

Are you overstaying a visa or something haier?

Used to be getting a hotel room was a never a problem they just wanted to photocopy your passport or something.

Hotels need to be authorised to have foreigners stay there or something. When you give them your passport that's so they can register you are staying there with the police. In big cities you won't usually have a problem getting a hotel, but when I go somewhere like my girlfriends hometown a lot of places will say I can't stay there until my girlfriend has screamed at them enough for them to give in.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

hakimashou posted:

Are you overstaying a visa or something haier?

Used to be getting a hotel room was a never a problem they just wanted to photocopy your passport or something.
No. Many people have problems with hotels though, even using English versions of Chinese sites. It's pretty common.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Can someone link the Levon Wei post of a young man enjoying his day on the Chinese Diaoyu islands when an elder accosts him to tell him of a very old country called "america" that once did china a great favor by nuking japan and then he has to go play dota.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
WOW, SHANGHAI SO MAGIC. MANY PRETTY LIGHTS. LOOK AT THE KEBAB TOWER! I LOVE SHANGHAI, SO MODERN AND BEAUTY.

plumpy hole lever
Aug 8, 2003

♥ Anime is real ♥
thats a loving hideous city

DreamScythe
Jul 25, 2007
Huh, must be a clear day that day if you can actually see it.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
I never went to shanghai and I don't regret it.

Closest I got was Nanjing where some bum violently accosted the chick I was with in 'china's safest city.' I threatened to hit him with my big fancy british umbrella but a jingcha came and told me and the chick to zou ba.

The only place I wish I'd seen was Dunhuang and the gobi desert.

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Jul 11, 2017

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Please tell me that photo is just an establishing shot from Dredd

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

basic hitler posted:

Please tell me that photo is just an establishing shot from Dredd

In china all that blade runner dystopia poo poo is real

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

To be fair look on google earth at Tokyo or something, the scale and density is just beyond comprehension but from all accounts it's a very cool place to visit or even live. What matters less is what a city looks like from the air and more what it's like on the street.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Though Tokyo does look a lot less dystopian from the air. Or at the very least, more Mirror's Edge dystopian than Blade Runner dystopian.

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe
Le Corbusier was the most influential architect of France in the 20th century. He designed everything to look good from the air and that is why every one of his projects was a horrific mess to live in. Besides the racist aspects of allocation, he and his theories are the biggest reasons why public housing has failed in the places it has failed

Brasilia was a purpose built capital city designed by Costa and Niemeyer. They made it look really really great from the air which is precisely why a shantytown immediately popped up of the construction workers who built the loving thing but couldn't afford to live in it

curufinor fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Jul 11, 2017

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Ceciltron posted:

Memories of New Years/Spring Festival.

Uncle: Exhales a cloud of cigarette smoke and shoves some jiaozi in his mouth "EAT! EAT! CHI!" Gesticulates madly at the table covered in delicious food.

quickly, as someone who has now drank with this uncle, this is an incredibly good description of how the night went. I know simplefish also really enjoyed him

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Haier posted:

WOW, SHANGHAI SO MAGIC. MANY PRETTY LIGHTS. LOOK AT THE KEBAB TOWER! I LOVE SHANGHAI, SO MODERN AND BEAUTY.



Just outside of seoul is a bit worse when it comes to rows of identical, near windowless apt buildings. Each block is a like a mini town with their own shopping complex on the bottom floors and underground.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Haier posted:

WOW, SHANGHAI SO MAGIC. MANY PRETTY LIGHTS. LOOK AT THE KEBAB TOWER! I LOVE SHANGHAI, SO MODERN AND BEAUTY.



Having only heard about New Jersey from things like Futurama, this is kinda how I imagined it to look. Only with more open tire fires.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
OMG, all that gasoline Chinese alcohol!
http://i.imgur.com/A2rd5Nl.gifv

Edit: I'm the glorious shower of cigarettes to calm and cool the nerves during these scary times.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


The Great Autismo! posted:

quickly, as someone who has now drank with this uncle, this is an incredibly good description of how the night went. I know simplefish also really enjoyed him

Yeah if thats the uncle i think it is hes a pretty cool dude

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Fauxtool posted:

Just outside of seoul is a bit worse when it comes to rows of identical, near windowless apt buildings. Each block is a like a mini town with their own shopping complex on the bottom floors and underground.

When the alternative is american style suburb rows of bloated idle rich and listless teenagers it doesn't sound very bad to me.





Now Kabul, whew that's a lot of goat poo poo

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Amergin
Jan 29, 2013

THE SOUND A WET FART MAKES

Jimmy Little Balls posted:

Hotels need to be authorised to have foreigners stay there or something. When you give them your passport that's so they can register you are staying there with the police. In big cities you won't usually have a problem getting a hotel, but when I go somewhere like my girlfriends hometown a lot of places will say I can't stay there until my girlfriend has screamed at them enough for them to give in.

Actually the worst time I had with this was in Beijing, took about three failures before we just went online to search for "foreigner-friendly hotels." I think in larger/more "important" cities hotels take poo poo like this seriously. In Kunming or Xi'an or Suzhou they haven't given a gently caress.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Hey Chinagoons, so about that internet access :china: Guardian: China moves to block internet VPNs from 2018

the graun posted:

China will completely block access to much of the global internet as part of a sweeping crackdown aimed at suppressing dissent and maintaining the Communist party’s grip on power.

The government has ordered China’s three telecommunications companies to completely block access to virtual private networks, or VPNs, by February 2018, Bloomberg News reported, citing anonymous sources. The three internet providers, China Mobile, China Unicom and China Telecom, are all state-owned.

China operates the largest internet censorship regime in the world, blocking access to thousands of websites including Google, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Internet controls also mean news and commentary critical of the ruling Communist party and information about events like the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre are almost impossible to find within China.

But millions of Chinese citizens circumvent China’s censorship system, known as the Great Firewall, by using a VPN, allowing unfettered access to any website.

The latest directive comes as China prepares for a twice a decade political meeting in Beijing in late 2017, with various factions within the government jockeying for dominance in any potential shuffle of top officials. It also comes on the heels of a 14-month “cleanup” of internet services announced in January, part of president Xi Jinping’s push for so-called “internet sovereignty”.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


That ain't gonna stop TOR or similar protocols will it?

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?

basic hitler posted:

That ain't gonna stop TOR or similar protocols will it?

TOR stopped working in 2009, it's one of the easier things to block.

A full VPN block won't happen because it'd harm the industry too much

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe
I bet they will think about technical measures, say chabuduo and block tls/ssl or something lolsy like that

Just do banking in http or whatever

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Haier posted:

Another aspect of this is someone sent me this link today and said "SO TERRIBLE!!!"
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/86GixwjKNlruSzwmWuxRHg

It's an article about how SPOOKY STRICT the US immigration system might become under Trump. I used Google to translate it and had an LOL at how scared they are about not being able to flee with their piles of money to the USA. I liked that they used a photo of some random Portuguese document with "Chinesa" written on it, which as nothing to do with US immigration.

It says that the time is coming soon when foreigners can go to America and get on welfare benefits and get free healthcare and their babies born in the US are automatically US citizens, and I am wondering how many rocks they were smoking when they wrote this article.

My reply of "LOL, does China even have an immigration system? I can't even get a hotel room in most hotels because I am a foreigner. Chinese shouldn't complain" was met with shock and an unsure "Oh..."
As a European I'll take the Chinese immigration system system over the US one any day. At least the Chinese generally don't give a poo poo. But I know several (very middle class Swedish white people) who were busted for smoking weed and had to go to the US embassy for like a two hour interview to be granted a visa and still be refused entry into the US because of some bureaucratic fuckup. I don't even want to imagine what it's like if you're not from an ESTA-country.

Where have you been denied a hotel room because you're a foreigner? Haven't heard of that happening in like ten years.

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe
Chill embassy employees wrt visas is not a thing

If an embassy employee fucks up hard enough with admissions, people die. Namaste

E: chill != bribeable. But the bribes go up a lot

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
Haierfternoon:
I usually cook at home, but some days I don't want to and I go out to buy food. I realized I have been here 11 months already and will be buying my air tickets this week for my possible forever-departure from China. It's pretty exciting. At the same time, I am so drat tired of Chinese food.

As a result, for the past month I have come to rely on Saizeriya/Saliya as my go-to garbage "I don't want to cook, but I sure as hell don't want Chinese food" place. There's one near me and I usually sit in same table every time and take a long lunch break from work. I listen to my paranormal podcasts and zone out, sipping hot milk and coffee and spending 80 minutes to eat what's in the photo. It's become kind of a fond Pavlovian memory now, and I almost don't even want to listen to these radio shows unless there is a matcha milk tea and pizza in front of me.



Pictured cost me 52 RMB, or $7.65 USD. I know this stuff is basically fast food, but a big meal there still leaves me nowhere near as over-salted or bad feeling as a normal-sized bowl of noodles does (which tend to contain three days RDA of sodium in them). It's a blessing to taste melted cheese.

Today I was watching this kid. He was probably about eleven years old. His mom was playing phone and he got up about ten+ times to fill his drink cup from the machines. After five or six times of him passing by my table, I watched him go to the soda dispenser, fill the cup to the top, go to the ice machine, have a torrent of ice fly into his full cup and splash soda all over his arms, shake himself off, wash his hands, dump out the entire cup to the sink, and then start over. While watching him, he did this three times in a row before finally putting about 1/4th of a cup of drink and then one ice piece and going back to his table. I was thinking "holy poo poo, this kid is too old to be this loving stupid."

There were some of those pompadoured faux-business men at a table near me, and one of the guys got lost looking for the bathroom. He finally walked into the kitchen to ask the guy cooking where the bathroom was and was shooshed out. He returned to fill up his drink cup and, without fibbing or exaggerating, did the exact same thing the kid had done regarding ice and soda levels. He also finally settled on a mostly-empty cup without ice in it.

Then the kid got up and also got lost looking for the bathroom (the signs are very clearly marked), and went into the broom closet and closed the door. I am 100% sure he pissed in the closet. He was in there for about two minutes and then came back out.

As I was walking home a delivery guy on an ebike came zooming up and abruptly stopped to fiddle with his phone. He started up his bike again with one hand and continued to look at his phone and drove right into
a barrier gate bar and flipped his bike. Everything in his basket fell out onto the ground and the bike was on top of him. A few people stood to watch him pick his things up. I kept walking.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Haier posted:

Haierfternoon:

Have you considered just lifting your post history in these threads into a Word document and offering it as-is to a publisher? After reading your posts for years I would love to own a copy of Haierventures in Chinar: Diary of a Plunger.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

Haier posted:

As a result, for the past month I have come to rely on Saizeriya/Saliya as my go-to garbage "I don't want to cook, but I sure as hell don't want Chinese food" place.

i hate to break it to you, but....





no seriously i mean as you can see from the clientele, these are the kind of people that absolutely cant handle western food, so no matter what the food there looks like it's still 100% chinese food

its like Bread Talk being called a western bakery

also as an aside, in my office cafeteria we have those fast-food style soda fountains (no ice) and despite these guys being programmers and stuff who got engineering degrees from good schools, they almost always over-fill the cups and slosh coke onto themselves

LentThem fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Jul 11, 2017

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe
I mean, breadtalk is western inasmuch as it's Singaporean so it has the possibility to not be as chabuduo maybe

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Hedenius posted:

As a European I'll take the Chinese immigration system system over the US one any day. At least the Chinese generally don't give a poo poo. But I know several (very middle class Swedish white people) who were busted for smoking weed and had to go to the US embassy for like a two hour interview to be granted a visa and still be refused entry into the US because of some bureaucratic fuckup. I don't even want to imagine what it's like if you're not from an ESTA-country.

Where have you been denied a hotel room because you're a foreigner? Haven't heard of that happening in like ten years.
It's not about the hotel rooms (yes, foreigners still get denied, a shock). I'm talking about immigration and starting a new life in a new country, not the customs counter. The article I posted was for Chinese on green cards and visas trying to remain living and working in the US, or become citizens (or hope they can get one of these things done). People can still immigrate to the US, which does have a functional immigration system and, once in process, green cards aren't too difficult if the boxes are checked. People can go to the US, live, work, and become a citizen after X amount of time and paying fees. They can buy a house and land as foreigners, have anchor babies, and spend their money as they see fit.
Can any outsider coming to China do that? No.

LentThem posted:

i hate to break it to you, but....
Saizeriya is Japanese. When I used to go to them in Shanghai a decade ago, they used to fresh bake the pizzas. Now it's cardboard frozen ones, but gently caress it, it's not oily noodles with that one obnoxious peppercorn on it.

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Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

LentThem posted:

also as an aside, in my office cafeteria we have those fast-food style soda fountains (no ice) and despite these guys being programmers and stuff who got engineering degrees from good schools, they almost always over-fill the cups and slosh coke onto themselves
Got to fill the cup to the brim or you're not getting your money's worth.

Even if refills are free. Got to maximize the drink volume per trip ratio.

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