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Lutsenko was the last rider to make the time cut. I don't haven't seen any reports on his banana.
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HBO's Tour De Pharmacey has made me laugh tonight
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Jul 9, 2017 22:57
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paddyboat posted:Lutsenko was the last rider to make the time cut. I don't haven't seen any reports on his banana. I wonder how many hours were spent pulling gravel out of that this evening.
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Jul 9, 2017 23:05
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Just caught up with the highlights. That was mad max levels of grim. Wonder if next year they'll either use only mountaintop finishes for the hilly stages or if they'll double down with more blood for the blood god. Also holy poo poo Uran winning the sprint single speed.
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Jul 10, 2017 07:37
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djssniper posted:HBO's Tour De Pharmacey has made me laugh tonight Good stage, though. Xabi fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Jul 10, 2017 |
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Given that Porte is out and Quintana is in trash form after the Giro, does Froome have this wrapped up? I am hoping Martin can challenge him a little but he doesn't have a whole team supporting him. I don't see Aru doing anything. edit: Girl -> Giro. accipter fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jul 10, 2017 |
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Jul 10, 2017 15:04
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Quintana was in poo poo form at the Giro too, but pretty much yeah Froomes one weakness a few years back was his sketchy bike handling (or at least a style that looked like that). His descending is insane now, and it's his rivals that can't stay up
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Jul 10, 2017 15:13
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If they want to do something they have to work together against him. For example why didn't Aru or Fuglsang attack in the last 10k, instead of reeling in Bardet. That would have forced Froome to do all the work chasing. If you want to hurt Froome you have to stop defending 2nd & 3rd place. It's the same old song, just the names are different..
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Jul 10, 2017 15:18
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Aru could have done poo poo if Porte hadn't defended his old team mate. Froome's much weaker looking when he's on his own for long periods.
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Jul 10, 2017 15:23
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Eh, attacking mechanicals is always a dick move, regardless of who's in yellow, and he couldn't even pretend he hadn't seen it like Nibali did
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Jul 10, 2017 16:06
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Is attacking on a mechanical really so bad? Isn't luck, shifting skill (wasn't Schleck cross-geared when he threw his chain?), the construction of your bike, component choice all part of the race? Case in point that Christian VDV made: why didn't everyone slow up and wait for Dan Martin after Porte took him out through no fault of his own? Now he's down an extra minute or so, but no one's complaining about sportsmanship. Would they have not been told in the last 25k or whatever that he was back on his bike? Granted, if we're talking about something like the tack incident from a few years back, I get it. That's exogenous to the race. But thrown gears and normal flats? Feels like asking Lewis Hamilton to slow down because Sebastian Vettel's gearbox got stuck in 3rd. Granted, an F1 car is a totally different beast from a road bike but…something something let the drivers decide the outcome… I'm playing Devil's advocate here mostly, but it seems like a question worth asking.
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Jul 10, 2017 16:37
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No, it's not a dick move. It's an idiotic "rule" and the yellow jersey is the only one who gets the protection according to it. gently caress that. Did we even see what was wrong with his bike? He was up there with them 30 secs later on the same bike, wasn't he?
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Jul 10, 2017 17:17
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gently caress that, always be attacking.
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Jul 10, 2017 17:21
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I like all the traditions, its part of the appeal 
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Jul 10, 2017 17:33
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Why won't Froome say what his mechanical was? What is he hiding?
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Aru did nothing wrong.
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paddyboat posted:Why won't Froome say what his mechanical was? What is he hiding? a motor in his wheels
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Rojkir posted:If they want to do something they have to work together against him. For example why didn't Aru or Fuglsang attack in the last 10k, instead of reeling in Bardet. That would have forced Froome to do all the work chasing. If you want to hurt Froome you have to stop defending 2nd & 3rd place. It's the same old song, just the names are different.. This was so frustrating! They had Froome isolated and they chose to ride with him and pull back Bardet. I don't understand what they were thinking. https://twitter.com/hornerakg/status/884130402415382529
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For someone who did nothing wrong he seems very keen to tell everyone it was totally his idea to stop attacking as soon as he heard about the mechanical Turns out he is saying he didn't know, despite riding past Froome actually having the problem
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Jul 10, 2017 17:56
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Weird of Froome to raise his arm like this... better ride under him.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:08
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Is it verboten to attack when a guy is calling for a bottle?
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Jul 10, 2017 18:25
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paddyboat posted:Why won't Froome say what his mechanical was? What is he hiding? A cable came out of his rear derailleur so it wasn't shifting, and no-one wanted to work with Aru because no-one likes him, and Fulgsang especially hates him.
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Jul 10, 2017 19:42
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Sounds like he should be whining at his mechanic and not good lad and clean racer Fabio Aru.
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Odds on FDJ going for the suicide breakaways to preserve the honour of France/break even on the tour?
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serious gaylord posted:A cable came out of his rear derailleur so it wasn't shifting, and no-one wanted to work with Aru because no-one likes him, and Fulgsang especially hates him. how is anyone in the tour not using electronic shifting?
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Jul 11, 2017 01:03
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Di2 still uses cables to send signals. Only etap is wireless.
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Jul 11, 2017 01:05
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Some of the older guys still use mechanical shifting, Contador, Nibali (and Cancellara used to)
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Skarsnik posted:Some of the older guys still use mechanical shifting, Contador, Nibali (and Cancellara used to) Fairly certain Contador uses Di2 now, with satellite shifters and all the jazz.
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Jul 11, 2017 07:12
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Ah yeah you're right, he switched this season
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Jul 11, 2017 07:38
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With Shimano STI, my hands/fingers would go completely dead at the end of 100mi rides with 10000ft climbing. With eTap I have no such fatigue. Now I'm imagining much longer grand tour stages day after day...NIbali is weird.
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just lol if your bike is not fixed gear imo or at least single speed imho
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kidsafe posted:With Shimano STI, my hands/fingers would go completely dead at the end of 100mi rides with 10000ft climbing. With eTap I have no such fatigue. Now I'm imagining much longer grand tour stages day after day...NIbali is weird. Also a mechanic's dream, especially eTap with its no internal wiring and removable batteries. Or is it?
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^^ eTap is indeed wireless with removable (and interchangeable between FD and RD) batteries.Skarsnik posted:Some of the older guys still use mechanical shifting, Contador, Nibali (and Cancellara used to) Sagan rode mechanical for the classics. Kittel is a beast. The ad-free aussies spent the last 10 km talking about how hosed he was back in the peloton, then dude gets it together and gaps second place to daylight.
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Bit of a yawn that.
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Hopefully this is not a stupid question but I've been looking around and am still really confused. Blame the fact that I never watch the Tour de France. I get what the difference is between the yellow and green jerseys, and I get that points are awarded not just at the end of the race. However, if this guy with the green jersey has won 4 stages, did he just do badly on the other 6 if he isn't also the overall time winner? I guess it's easier to fall behind in time quickly than in points. More importantly, is it possible to hold both the yellow and green jerseys? Or polka dot and one of the others at the same time?
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Yeah, he's a sprinter so he's hosed in the mountains which means he'll never do well in the general classification. You can indeed hold more than one jersey. In fact, you can hold them all but you'll only be wearing one of course. If you have all the jerseys, this is the priority: yellow, green, polka dot and then white. So if you're first in the general classification and the mountains competition, you'll be wearing the yellow jersey while the rider who's second in the mountains competition will be wearing the polka dot. Xabi fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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Wippersnapper posted:Hopefully this is not a stupid question but I've been looking around and am still really confused. Blame the fact that I never watch the Tour de France. Important to understanding all this is that riders in a group all receive the same time, so even winning a stage doesn't necessarily mean gaining any time on other riders if they are in contact with the same group. e: Though there are time bonuses, so caveat.
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glynnenstein posted:Important to understanding all this is that riders in a group all receive the same time, so even winning a stage doesn't necessarily mean gaining any time on other riders if they are in contact with the same group. This makes things so much more clear. Is the only motivation to win the stage to gain points then? Seems weird to me. Edit: And to win yeah I'm dumb. Wippersnapper fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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For the sprinters the motivation is to win stages (and for some, the green jersey).
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Win stages, show the shirt, make money.
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