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This year has been an emotional rollercoaster and I'm not sure I'm ready for the next descent https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/884816540473995264 https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/884817469545861120
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FrozenVent posted:I hope he does, and then Junior either refuses or we find out he's already deleted all the emails or something like that. Hey fun fact, Donnie's already wiped email servers related to his businesses for at least one court case he was being sued in. But, ya know, Crooked Hillary.
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 19:24 |
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*in war hero voice* I'm very concerned in light of current events.
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 19:24 |
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I guess the total idiot gene skipped Ivanka.
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 19:40 |
Haha poo poo so this isn't just hopeful poo poo it is actually real Wow
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KildarX posted:Current right wing talking point on AM radio today was, "Putin would have absolutely loved Hilary in charge, why would he possibly help trump?! Makes no sense, trumps an unknown quantity while Hillary would have just been more of Obama which would be SCRAPING to Putin." The gently caress are sanctions anyway?
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 19:40 |
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I'm just glad that Trump ended our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 19:43 |
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https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/884842004672376832 lmao
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 19:53 |
Press briefing pretty good today. Also Don Jr on Hannity tonight
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 20:03 |
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Poppyseed Poundcake posted:The gently caress are sanctions anyway? Legally enforced boycott and persona non grata. These people and organizations cannot visit, do business, or associate with any US citizen or organization. What's the good of being a corrupt strongman when the empire that controls all the luxury goods and services freezes you and your cronies out?
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 20:09 |
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TBeats posted:Fox News anchor just said this exact thing, and maybe someone can check the accuracy of the claim: "Collusion is not a crime so be that it is not being held in exchange for favors, especially during a political election." Collusion is not a crime in this context, though it can be in an antitrust context. Regarding 2016's presidential campaign issues, 'collusion' is being used colloquially, not legally. Collusion is a less culturally and less legally loaded term than conspiracy, which I guess is why its being used. The solicitation angle comes from Title 52, section 30121 of the U.S. Code which has to do with Contributions and donations by foreign nationals. For trump purposes, there are two different crimes here: quote:It shall be unlawful for— quote:It shall be unlawful for— Title 11, section 110.20 of the Combined Federal Register (Federal regulations) lays out what definitions are to be used in this context - in this case, at 11 CFR 300.2. quote:To solicit. For the purposes of part 300, to solicit means to ask, request, or recommend, explicitly or implicitly, that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value. A solicitation is an oral or written communication that, construed as reasonably understood in the context in which it is made, contains a clear message asking, requesting, or recommending that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value. A solicitation may be made directly or indirectly. The context includes the conduct of persons involved in the communication. A solicitation does not include mere statements of political support or mere guidance as to the applicability of a particular law or regulation. quote:(1) The following types of communications constitute solicitations: So, back to 52 USC 30121. 1) No foreign national gave or promised to give Clinton opposition research to Trump or anyone connected to the campaign. Opposition research could be a thing of value that could constitute a donation. 2) No Trump person solicited the opposition research - Goldstone solicited Trump Jr. I don't think Jr. agreeing to a meeting set up by Goldstone can transfer Goldstone's solicitation of Jr. to a solicitation by Jr, but I haven't researched it. e: for the masochists, further comments on the definition of solicit as used in the contributions and donations by foreign nationals statute. Start at page 69942. Short answer: solicit was meant to be narrowly construed as a specific asking, and not broadly construed as a suggestion. What was envisioned was "a palpable communication intended to, and reasonably understood to, convey a request for some [donation]." joat mon fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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Ceiling fan posted:Legally enforced boycott and persona non grata. These people and organizations cannot visit, do business, or associate with any US citizen or organization. What's the good of being a corrupt strongman when the empire that controls all the luxury goods and services freezes you and your cronies out?
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 20:15 |
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Lal
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 20:22 |
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i'm the autistic weirdo in that gif
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 20:23 |
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I'm just boggled by Junior thinking he had anything to gain by just tossing the emails out like that
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 20:25 |
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Internet Wizard posted:I'm just boggled by Junior thinking he had anything to gain by just tossing the emails out like that He's a Trump so it's probably distracting from his raping the Russian lawyer or the like.
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joat mon posted:Collusion is not a crime in this context, though it can be in an antitrust context. Regarding 2016's presidential campaign issues, 'collusion' is being used colloquially, not legally. Thanks for this. There's a lot more more nuance to it than I thought.
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 20:28 |
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CHICKEN SHOES posted:i'm the autistic weirdo in that gif The script writer?
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 20:32 |
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aaaaaahahahahahahahaha https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/884853347815235584 HE THINKS HE'S HELPING https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/884856520055418880 https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/884857260995903488
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facialimpediment posted:aaaaaahahahahahahahaha reading the thread on the Assange tweet he wanted the email to basically be leaked anonymously, I guess through wikileaks.
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 20:38 |
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Podesta tweeted back at Assange, https://twitter.com/john_podesta/status/884854018824175620
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 20:51 |
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I remember the times when political people all used the same standard talking points and all that actually changed was the name barking the words. Occasionally, people would even wince when they'd have to say bullshit. Now, it's a free-for-all chucking poo poo against a wall for my amusement. But this one's the best. https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/884858126339645441
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Handsome Ralph posted:Podesta tweeted back at Assange,
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 20:59 |
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You ever wonder how much of their day various people running our political system spend reading and writing tweets nowadays?
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 21:00 |
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aphid_licker posted:You ever wonder how much of their day various people running our political system spend reading and writing tweets nowadays?
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 21:08 |
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I think Richard Painter actually does a good job of boiling all of this down:quote:“Let’s cut through the baloney here. We know what the Russians have been doing,” Painter said during a later appearance on the network. “When the Russians call or someone calls on behalf of the Russians and offers derogatory information about a former secretary of state who is a presidential candidate, the first person you call is the FBI.” http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/11/donald-trump-jr-treason-buzzword-240406
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 21:16 |
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Wrong. This is clearly republican vs democrat. The Russians know the GOP has the best interest of democracy in mind. --some maga dude
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 21:22 |
https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/884867119434747904 hell ya finally some justice MAGA
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 21:29 |
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Even Fox News is having a difficult time defending it. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/11/trump-jr-burns-gop-defenders.html
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 21:35 |
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Speaking of the old thread favourite, SS-18 Satan https://twitter.com/thedelphivision/status/884858702704123904
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 21:37 |
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TBeats posted:https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/884867119434747904
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facialimpediment posted:I remember the times when political people all used the same standard talking points and all that actually changed was the name barking the words. Occasionally, people would even wince when they'd have to say bullshit. Now, it's a free-for-all chucking poo poo against a wall for my amusement. Hey Alex.. How are your kids doing?
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 21:47 |
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TBeats posted:https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/884867119434747904 That....may not be the brilliant maneuver he thinks it is. Like, I get that hyperpartisanship is the name of the game. Even so, if this poo poo show turns into a judicial free for all of just arresting political opponents based on what the guy in charge today says I have to think there's enough people with survival instincts that can look to tomorrow and think, 'better not, that could be me'. Not nearly as many as a functioning, stable society should have, but enough. Because if not and we start down THAT rabbit hole then the last six months are going to be the calm period in history.
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# ? Jul 11, 2017 21:57 |
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Chances of a government shutdown on October 1st just went up dramatically as House Republicans are tossing some wall funding into the next appropriations bill. https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/884878855466614785 BBC getting high as a kite on the news https://twitter.com/JessicaLennard/status/884818465021988867 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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psydude posted:I think Richard Painter actually does a good job of boiling all of this down: drat straight. BTW, that's Richard Painter, GWB's Ethics Lawyer. (maybe not in 2017) quote:In the Bush administration we could have had him in custody for questioning by now.
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bird food bathtub posted:That....may not be the brilliant maneuver he thinks it is. Basically. The reason you don't is because if you are ever ousted from power, you are going to be swinging from the end of a rope. If for no other reason than breaking the long standing agreement that you don't jail the prior administration. Its why you didn't see a bunch of Cheney and Rummie's people in stripes after Obama got elected. When the investigations and trials start under a prior administration, you leave the courts to do the work and stay out of it. If all the nasty poo poo comes out after, then you leave it to Congressional committees to recommend charges and then go after them. Mitch and Paul aren't retarded. They supply the fart that the rest of the elected GOP has been huffing and they know the boundaries. If Trump starts arresting prior administration to incite hyper partisanship, they will shut him down. Also, good luck finding anyone currently in the DOJ outside of Sessions willing to actually try and put handcuffs on Clapper. Pretty sure if the Keebler Klansman tried, Clapper would tear Sessions's intestines out with his bare hands. Rodger Stone is an idiot and probably going to jail for several decades. His ranting isn't going to convince the real power in Washington to do a drat thing. No one wants to be the one to open that Pandora's Box because the monster inside doesn't care about sides, it just kills everything and everyone. facialimpediment posted:Chances of a government shutdown on October 1st just went up dramatically as House Republicans are tossing some wall funding into the next appropriations bill. Its like 3 dudes in the House and the rest of the Reds rolling their eyes saying "Yea, yea yea.. Ok here." because they know the Senate is just going to remove it. They are going to run a carry over budget with minor adjustments, raise the debt ceiling and Trump will sign off on it because "Who knew budgets were so complicated and we are going to rewrite things over the next year because obstructionist democrats.". Edit: In non Trump news.... The Chinese have figured out teleportation?? Maybe?? This seems kinda like a big deal. But maybe not. Genocide Tendency fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jul 11, 2017 |
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Zeris posted:The script writer? Pretty sure he meant Wil Wheaton.
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quote:n the Bush administration we could have had him in custody for questioning by now.
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Genocide Tendency posted:The Chinese have figured out teleportation?? Maybe?? What they are doing is quantum teleportation, which is just sharing the state of a photon not teleporting actual molecules. It also relies on using standard communication equipment like lasers and radio signals. Quantum teleportation has been done in labs all over the world for quite a while now, the Chinese are just the first to put the equipment on a satellite. It does allow for exciting new technologies and supposedly unbreakable cryptography, but it doesn't give us faster than light communications or anything like that since it is still needs conventional techniques to communicate.
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