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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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Colangelo's time in Toronto was mostly a disaster but I think he should get some credit for trying to build a 2017 NBA team with 2006 parts
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Jul 11, 2017 21:51
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Dante80 posted:Re-uploaded a MILKO ad Giannis did, while adding hardsubbed subs for english speakers. Be gentle, its my first time using aegisub. Greek chocolate milk does not gently caress around.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:53
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I feel like if Embiid had been able to play healthy during all the time he missed, we'd be looking at Hinkie differently. I know that's a big if, but he's obviously a very good, possibly great talent if he has all that time to develop as a player. Maybe people even want to play with him because of his skill and Philly's considerable cap space. Of course, if Embiid had been able to play healthy during all the time he missed, they wouldn't have been in a position to draft Simmons and Fultz.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:53
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He's a good guy, I'm glad he got some money.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:55
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His biggest mistake was Okafor over Porzingis.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:55
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Doltos posted:That's extremely obvious and everyone is aware of the strategy. The point is Hinkie made it a point to make his strategy not only obvious, but blatant. We don't even know if it worked yet. Hinkie is that guy who went to college just so he could join a frat and network. He pretty much ignored class so he could pound beers with as many sons of rich businessmen as he could. Like dude at least pretend education matters in landing that cushy job you'll never be fired from
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Jul 11, 2017 21:55
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https://theundefeated.com/features/chris-paul-time-for-change/ Some cool stuff from Chris paul's perspective here, nothing bitter toward LA, but basically admitting he thought the clippers had hit their ceiling and had no way to get over the hump, so he moved. Also, totally confirmed the INTANGIBLES value of one Bobby Brown.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:57
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NBA Offseason 2017-18 G/V: The Same Dumb Discussion that We All Had the Last Two Offseasons.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:58
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Niwrad posted:His biggest mistake was Okafor over Porzingis. That was everybody's mistake. Literally no one thought Porzingis would be immediately good, let alone better than post-savant Okafor Has Noel even signed yet? I guess a lot of people misjudged the (R)FA market. Brooklyn cant sign everybody
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Jul 11, 2017 21:58
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TheKevman posted:But if it's obvious and the right thing to do, even if it hasn't worked yet, what does him making it obvious or blatant mean other than you simply not liking that he did that? Yeah I don't like his style. He had players on the roster that knew they were either doomed or only there for a short layover. He let everyone know that Philly had no hope until a superstar started to develop, which led to players like KP refusing to workout for him and agents saying poo poo like this: quote:"The only way an agent will deal with the Sixers is the Jimmy Butler situation," said a league source, noting that the restricted free agent identified the Sixers as possible destination this summer before he re-signed with the Chicago Bulls. I think he did a bad job and other GMs did similar strategies without making headlines. Even if the Sixers turn into a perennial playoff team I'd still think he did a bad job with his time there, and that other GMs could have done a better job.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:58
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TheKevman posted:Do you have private messages I sent you one a while ago about how I live near and have served/hung out with Paul Zuvella Whoops, I totally forgot to respond to that. Unfortunately I just got this username from Lowtax, but it is awesome that you served a Yankees Legend.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:58
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:That was everybody's mistake. Literally no one thought Porzingis would be immediately good, let alone better than post-savant Okafor Paul Zuvella posted:Just want to point out that they didn't draft Porzingis because they didnt want to draft him. Not drafting someone because "they don't want to play there" is really dumb because a team has complete control of that player for 4 years and then RFA rights basically give them complete control again unless they completely tank their salary for a year. Ownership didn't want to draft him, but Hinkie did. Also, Porzingis had no issue with playing in Philly; his shithead agent, Andy Miller, also represented Noel and didn't want his clients cutting into each other's playing time.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:59
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Redgrendel2001 posted:NBA Offseason 2017-18 G/V: The Same Dumb Discussion that We All Had the Last Two Offseasons. If it was only contained to offseasons that would be fine but it's a monthly thing here. But it's easy to ignore, too, I guess.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:59
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The worst thing about this hinkie discussion is the constant revisionist history that Porzingis was the sure-fire pick. Literally months after the pick, people said this here. It was dumb as gently caress then, it's even dumber now.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:01
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Niwrad posted:His biggest mistake was Okafor over Porzingis. Yup Huge
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Jul 11, 2017 22:02
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SunshineDanceParty posted:I just remembered that the Grizzlies of the last few years are winding down. They were a really fun team to root for come playoff time. Also a perfect example of how it can be worthwhile to exist without making the finals or getting the #1 pick.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:05
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https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/884817776501764097 Rip
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Jul 11, 2017 22:06
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Dante80 posted:Re-uploaded a MILKO ad Giannis did, while adding hardsubbed subs for english speakers. Be gentle, its my first time using aegisub. Hah, nice ad. Thanks for subbing it. Also lol at these knockoff Cavs jerseys that I strongly suspect is not a real team despite sounding vaguely Greek ahah  good on Giannis for using a 10 foot rim instead of the 8 foot one Kevin Love used for his Chocolate Milk commercial Nissin Cup Nudist posted:That was everybody's mistake. Literally no one thought Porzingis would be immediately good, let alone better than post-savant Okafor I DID!
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Jul 11, 2017 22:07
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I think you'd still have somewhat of an issue with playing both Porzingis and Embiid at the same time (Porzingis is a natural 5, despite the bullshit triangle Knicks not thinking so), though they are both probably talented enough for a good coach to have figured it out.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:07
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DeimosRising posted:Also a perfect example of how it can be worthwhile to exist without making the finals or getting the #1 pick. Yep, and even though the Celtics had absolutely no shot to beat the Cavs this year (much less the Warriors) I enjoyed the trip to the ECF immensely because 3 seasons ago they won 25 games. There's a lot to be said for a team that tries hard and outplays expectations. I've never fully understood "championship or bust"
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Jul 11, 2017 22:08
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WhyteRyce posted:That deal for George gets worse with every new tweet about it How in the world is that the best deal he could get
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Jul 11, 2017 22:08
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His jumper died
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Jul 11, 2017 22:09
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNSsqDQxqk
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Jul 11, 2017 22:09
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Wonder if this is legit or they pulled him because it was getting really embarrassing. Either way, the rebuild is off to a great start!
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Jul 11, 2017 22:10
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Tae posted:The worst thing about this hinkie discussion is the constant revisionist history that Porzingis was the sure-fire pick. Literally months after the pick, people said this here. It was dumb as gently caress then, it's even dumber now. I was actually praying that Okafor would fall to the Knicks and all the Porzingis hype on draft day would make the Sixers take him instead.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:10
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https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/884877879074541568 #nepotism
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Jul 11, 2017 22:10
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DeimosRising posted:How in the world is that the best deal he could get 31 year old point guard with major injury in recent years. Not enough cap space this year, especially since half the league has point guards and the other half drafted theirs.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:10
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That's just Dejan wearing a moustache
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Jul 11, 2017 22:11
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Dante80 posted:Re-uploaded a MILKO ad Giannis did, while adding hardsubbed subs for english speakers. Be gentle, its my first time using aegisub. pretty rad, might head up to junglejims and see if they have this for sale thank christ
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Jul 11, 2017 22:13
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I was perfectly fine with the Lakers slow-building with an eye on like 2020 and am super not fine with just throwing the next season away to pray for a Lebron and Friend team.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:13
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Rick posted:I was perfectly fine with the Lakers slow-building with an eye on like 2020 and am super not fine with just throwing the next season away to pray for a Lebron and Friend team. Magic's got a real big ego on him and it's going to hurt the team for a while. He spent the entire offseason preparing for the Lebron/PG plan and the PG plan is already showing its cracks. Maybe you should blow him up
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Jul 11, 2017 22:15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnd6yRc7EUk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQmJOaS036U&t=66s compare these to my immediate texts to my pal Travis reading "HELL YEAH" and "KING ZING is gonna BRING RINGS" 
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Jul 11, 2017 22:18
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G-Hawk posted:https://theundefeated.com/features/chris-paul-time-for-change/ Getting Bobby Brown was some forty dimensional chess type poo poo from Morey. I imagine his giant cloud database has a matrix of all AAU teammates and friends of NBA players who can be acquired on the cheap
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Jul 11, 2017 22:23
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quote:What can you say about Melo possibly being a teammate if the New York Knicks trade him to Houston or make him a free agent by buying him out? 
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Jul 11, 2017 22:26
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yeah i was gonna include that but thats about the 50th version of that from some source/player/whoever and at this point im tired of the rumors and just want it to go ahead and happen
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Jul 11, 2017 22:29
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Fast Luck posted:The premise is that you draft for generational talent, because you need top talent to win in the NBA. We now know they've got that with Embiid if he stays healthy. They've surrounded Embiid with two #1 picks in Simmons and Fultz, and theoretically all those guys will fit well together. And they've now got other NBA talent guys to surround them with like Covington and Saric and others. I get that there were doubters in the beginning but at this point the process worked and Sam Hinkie's vision has been validated, so it's weird to say he's not a genius or that people that were process fans from the beginning aren't all geniuses too. Dunno if I agree with this but I am also pretty extreme as far as being a Ben Simmons skeptic corn on the cop posted:Everyone knew Embiid was going to miss a massive amount of time at the time of the draft. That was his risk. Yeah this is the only reason they were able to draft him in the first place. He already had huge injury issues coming out of college. If he didn't he'd be a Cav right now. It was probably worth the risk but it wasn't exactly some unforeseeable thing.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:34
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The question with Simmons is whether you can be a star wing in this league and not be able to shoot.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:57
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From what I know about him he seems like he'd be a good fit as a Lamar Odom type but the sort-of-weird ongoing I AM THE PG war he's waging makes me wonder if he'll ever want to do that
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Jul 11, 2017 23:01
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morestuff posted:From what I know about him he seems like he'd be a good fit as a Lamar Odom type but the sort-of-weird ongoing I AM THE PG war he's waging makes me wonder if he'll ever want to do that He can want whatever he desires. The league tells you real quick what you are.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:03
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He's gonna defend SF or PF so who cares what he calls himself
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Jul 11, 2017 23:09
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