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Jul 11, 2017 23:26
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Despera posted:Turtle face isn't even close to getting the votes He could probably lose his hard liners and go towards ACA fixing, while gaining his moderates and a few blue dogs. That might get a pass, but I have no idea how it passes the house after that.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:27
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cr0y posted:What would come after Mueller being fired? appointment of another special prosecutor, in a saner universe; the dissolution of the union; or somewhere in beteween
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Jul 11, 2017 23:28
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cr0y posted:What would come after Mueller being fired? Step 1: Fire Mueller Step 2: Step 3: The Trump Reich beings it 10,000 year reign. Would actually like to see Trump try it, just to see what level of concerned McCain would reach.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:28
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Eltoasto posted:He could probably lose his hard liners and go towards ACA fixing, while gaining his moderates and a few blue dogs. That might get a pass, but I have no idea how it passes the house after that. The problem with this is that Republicans don't actually give a poo poo about healthcare and the ACA doesn't need to be fixed in the way that the GOP wants. There are problems with it, but the solutions almost universally involve things that Republicans are ideologically opposed to. Cost issues mostly come down to a lack of government involvement in the market, and the same goes for access to healthcare in general. Republicans are only motivated to mess with the ACA because they want to cut spending, but cutting spending and improving healthcare are mutually exclusive goals. Take away the cuts and literally nobody on the GOP side wants anything to do with healthcare reform.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:32
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Eltoasto posted:He could probably lose his hard liners and go towards ACA fixing, while gaining his moderates and a few blue dogs. That might get a pass, but I have no idea how it passes the house after that. If trumps poll numbers weren't in the burning garbage bin peeling off a few dems could happen
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Jul 11, 2017 23:35
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Kylra posted:That's fine for Trump but all the Rs in the house and senate kind of want to be reelected. I have a very sincere question/ couple of questions (which are all basically the same question). Regardless of what this Trump Jr. business ends up proving or disproving or who gets his/her head in a pike for this, but I have to ask: Why he couldn't just wait? My train of thought is that all he needed to do was wait for the NYT to drop the e-mails and he could've trash-talked them up and down. What was to be gained? Was this the equivalent of that shithead in YouTube who says "First" was that literally all it was? It makes no loving sense. How can anybody be this goddamn stupid?
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Jul 11, 2017 23:35
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Would firing Mueller close his independent investigation, or would someone else be able to take over without being appointed by the DOJ?
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Jul 11, 2017 23:36
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Wark Say posted:A few pages behind, but leave the Shinsengumi and Sadaharu off of this, bucko! You'll have to watch Hannity tonight to find out!
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Jul 11, 2017 23:37
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Whoever is Jr.'s lawyer really should tell Jr. to shutup
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Jul 11, 2017 23:38
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Filthy Hans posted:Would firing Mueller close his independent investigation, or would someone else be able to take over without being appointed by the DOJ? I'm sure the investigation is documenting everything in triplicate with the expectation Trump will try to stop it.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:38
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Filthy Hans posted:Would firing Mueller close his independent investigation, or would someone else be able to take over without being appointed by the DOJ? It would not close the investigation, but trump is super dumb.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:39
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Despera posted:Whoever is Jr.'s lawyer really should tell Jr. to shutup This just in, Jr.'s lawyer has released a statement: https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/884897415010041857
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Jul 11, 2017 23:39
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Trabisnikof posted:You'll have to watch Hannity tonight to find out!
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Despera posted:Whoever is Jr.'s lawyer really should tell Jr. to shutup Lionel Hutz
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Trabisnikof posted:Ok you're correct, but if a reconciliation bill effects both spending and revenue then it uses up both attempts. So if they did absolutely no revenue changes in one bill they could do spending changes in another, but that seems even less politically feasible. The AHCA repeal includes revenue changes which is why the big tax cut bill has to go in 2018. There are two reconciliation bills thanks to the GOP's legislative process magic. AHCA/BCRA/whatever is FY2017's reconciliation bill and the tax reform bill that has yet to be released is FY2018's reconciliation bill. They're entirely separate with regards to the revenue/spending/debt ceiling change criteria. McConnell likely removed the tax cuts for better optics on the bill, so that the media can't say that the GOP is killing people to cut taxes on the super rich. It won't help, though.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:43
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Wark Say posted:A few pages behind, but leave the Shinsengumi and Sadaharu off of this, bucko!
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Jul 11, 2017 23:44
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Wark Say posted:gently caress that, I'm seeing my girlfriend tonight after almost 2 weeks. Two lovely-rear end gringos semi-fellating each other can wait. Wait which lovely rear end gringo pair you talking about?
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Jul 11, 2017 23:44
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Office Pig posted:This just in, Jr.'s lawyer has released a statement: Might want to hold back on the loyalty proclamations Eric old boy.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:46
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Mustached Demon posted:Wait which lovely rear end gringo pair you talking about?
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Jul 11, 2017 23:47
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Wark Say posted:gently caress that, I'm seeing my girlfriend tonight after almost 2 weeks. Two lovely-rear end gringos semi-fellating each other can wait. But enough about you and your girlfriend
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Jul 11, 2017 23:47
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Might want to hold back on the loyalty proclamations Eric old boy. Inb4 "See, my brother did nothing wrong: peepee_tape.mp4"
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Jul 11, 2017 23:47
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Eltoasto posted:He could probably lose his hard liners and go towards ACA fixing, while gaining his moderates and a few blue dogs. That might get a pass, but I have no idea how it passes the house after that. Any D senator who votes with the Republicans on anything, let alone the worst health care bill ever conceived, may as well blow their brains out right now.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:48
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I learned in DARE that chewing on pens and pencils makes you more likely to smoke, and they encouraged us to tell each other to stop doing it. One of my classmates pushed my hand away when I was chewing on a pen cap, and the teacher looked me in the eye and said "she just saved your life." This probably sounds ridiculous and unbelievable to anyone who didn't have the DARE program in school, the rest of you are probably laughing and trying to remember the dumb poo poo they told you.cr0y posted:What would come after Mueller being fired? People get really angry John McCain is very, very concerned Everything continues as if nothing had happened
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Jul 11, 2017 23:49
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Inferior Third Season posted:I'm hoping the Pulitzer committee awards this year's prize for best Breaking News Reporting to Donald Trump Jr. But you didn't answer the question. :P Paradoxish posted:The problem with this is that Republicans don't actually give a poo poo about healthcare and the ACA doesn't need to be fixed in the way that the GOP wants. There are problems with it, but the solutions almost universally involve things that Republicans are ideologically opposed to. Cost issues mostly come down to a lack of government involvement in the market, and the same goes for access to healthcare in general. Republicans are only motivated to mess with the ACA because they want to cut spending, but cutting spending and improving healthcare are mutually exclusive goals. Take away the cuts and literally nobody on the GOP side wants anything to do with healthcare reform. Or rather take away the cuts and it is harder to justify their knee-jerk reaction to voting along with their party. It's still a possibility, though.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:50
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Covok posted:Inb4 "See, my brother did nothing wrong: peepee_tape.mp4" eric and Jr turn out to be the russian hookers
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Jul 11, 2017 23:50
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Well, apparently one of my Facebook friends is still more pissed at some Democrats in California blocking single payer health care than the mounting evidence of Trump collusion with the Russians. I don't know why a Bernie supporter clings so hard to his spite for the Democrats when there are literal crooks and traitors in the White House, but I've given up understanding him at this point.
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https://twitter.com/ChrisLicht/status/884905334757875713 "Quitter Joe only left GOP to be with love affair Mika! Can't stand the heat of politics. Fairweather Fan! #sad #maga #quitterjoe"
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Jul 11, 2017 23:51
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Jul 11, 2017 23:51
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Wark Say posted:I have a very sincere question/ couple of questions (which are all basically the same question). Regardless of what this Trump Jr. business ends up proving or disproving or who gets his/her head in a pike for this, but I have to ask: Why he couldn't just wait? My train of thought is that all he needed to do was wait for the NYT to drop the e-mails and he could've trash-talked them up and down. What was to be gained? Was this the equivalent of that shithead in YouTube who says "First" was that literally all it was? It makes no loving sense. How can anybody be this goddamn stupid?
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Jul 11, 2017 23:51
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AsInHowe posted:Big story coming out tonight, according to some sources. I hear a thing might happen in the near future according to sources. spoilers the thing is me getting tacos double spoilers it's me i'm the source
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Jul 11, 2017 23:51
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AsInHowe posted:Big story coming out tonight, according to some sources. was he taken off life support?
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Jul 11, 2017 23:52
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Yeah, his meltdown is the second best thing about today.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:52
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Spaced God posted:I hear a thing might happen in the near future according to sources. SOURCES: Donald Trump loves pissing Whoa, that's crazy, you guys!!
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Jul 11, 2017 23:52
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paperwind posted:Well, apparently one of my Facebook friends is still more pissed at some Democrats in California blocking single payer health care than the mounting evidence of Trump collusion with the Russians. I don't know why a Bernie supporter clings so hard to his spite for the Democrats when there are literal crooks and traitors in the White House, but I've given up understanding him at this point. He really wants to justify his Jill Stein vote to himself
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Spaced God posted:I hear a thing might happen in the near future according to sources. You're the leaker!
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Jul 11, 2017 23:53
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What a roller coaster of a day, man. This is seriously exhausting.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:54
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Things said by my (democrat) parents: "the democrats are bad too" "there's no such thing as a partisan judge" "you can't just oppose everything the republicans do" "they (the republicans) don't hate minorities"
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