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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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| Where will the Pauls go |
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| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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I'm higher than most on Simmons (which sounds kinda ridiculous talking about a no. 1 overall pick), but if all his projected offensive skills translate then he doesn't need to be a knockdown shooter, just passable. He should have the athleticism to drive to the rim and score on the 4s that will be guarding him, as long as he is not Rondo/MCW bad so they totally ignore him on the perimeter and pack the paint he should be fine. I acknowledge there is a possibility he is an MCW level shooter in his rookie season, but hopefully that will develop along the way. You will have to guard him closely anyway when he has the ball in his hands because of his vision as a passer (better than Lonzo imho), it's just when he's off-ball that you want him to at least be 32% 3P so he doesn't kill the spacing.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:15
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Ben Simmons loving owns
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Jul 11, 2017 23:23
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Paul Zuvella posted:He's gonna defend SF or PF so who cares what he calls himself More worried about him offensively tbh
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Jul 11, 2017 23:28
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Jul 11, 2017 23:37
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884904190790774784 lol
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Jul 11, 2017 23:39
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E_P posted:Did the results ever get posted for that preseason questionnaire? With like rookie of the year and stuff. I haven't finished tabulating all of it but I will later this month hopefully. Rest assured that nobody picked Malcolm Brogdon as the rookie WS/PER leader this past season. JackBandit posted:Concluding that Houston is a bad three point shooting team (in their strategy or their skill) because of their near zero A3NP is flawed logic, I think. You want a metric that takes all possessions like LgTS% rather than Lg3P%. It could be that accuracy and frequency are inversely related and so the optimal strategy is shooting more at a lower accuracy. I wouldn't call HOU a bad 3P shooting team. Accuracy and frequency (3P% and 3PA) had a .13 correlation last year so they were barely related. Houston had a below average 3P% while also having the second best 2P% in the whole league (trailing only GSW). They had tons of awful 3P games: 6for37, 6for38, 9for40, 9for39, 13for51, 7for35 to name a few. Houston's O isn't the main issue. It's their trash defense. Paul Zuvella posted:Who did the Thunder have last year other than Westbrook as a top 15 player? They completely turned it around and retooled and became a contender again this year. The season hasn't started yet so it seems early to be designating teams as contenders. Zogo fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Jul 11, 2017 23:52
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Shaq eats breakfast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwXdyQAOpco EvanTH posted:Aren't the NBA Post Jordan Dark Age Pistons the only counterexample to a team winning the title without at least two top guys? You really only need one top WS/48 guy to do it. Many recent champions only have one. Tae posted:Why does nobody care when the suns shut down their only good players three months before the season's over Some probably do but it's not much of a conversation starter. If someone posted an effort post/rant on that topic they'd surely get hit with a "Sir, this is a Burger King drive-thru" or "Sir, this is an Arby's counter" or "Madam, this is a White Castle." Just like games between two fifteen win teams don't get prime time treatment.
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Jul 12, 2017 00:00
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That 2004 Pistons team was basically "Defense, Defense, Defense and also Defense". They were holding people to sub-80 and sub-70 points in playoff games. It was a magical thing. In the Finals, the only two players on the Lakers to score more than 10 points in any of the 5 games were Shaq & Kobe.
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Jul 12, 2017 00:05
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Paul Zuvella posted:Whoops, I totally forgot to respond to that. Unfortunately I just got this username from Lowtax, but it is awesome that you served a Yankees Legend. Haha I had no idea who he was but he looked very very vaguely familiar. When I gave him his check the name popped out too. Wasn't til I came back on here that I had the 'a-ha' moment. Suuuuuuper cool guy, he comes in fairly often and he and his wife are great. That's pretty funny about lowtax giving you the name though, total legend 
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Jul 12, 2017 00:11
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Simmons has to finish and he needs to not shoot horribly. But we know how amazing a truly big guy who can pass can be. Lebron and Jokic use their size to put balls anywhere. It's not fair to the other teams. Simmons is a better passer than Lonzo Ball, without question. He's got eyes and eyes and eyes, and he's 6'11. That being said, there are several other basketball things he'll have to do to not be a huge disappointment He's also got some 'tism which might not click with Fultz's sleepy excellence. Time will tell
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Jul 12, 2017 00:13
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https://twitter.com/JustinJett_/status/884572518794670080 https://twitter.com/JustinJett_/status/884546507940155392 Get em
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Jul 12, 2017 00:13
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https://twitter.com/thehoopcentral/status/884911987536175105 https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/884914001133551616
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Jul 12, 2017 00:19
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I want the Davis/Boogie team to actually be good and fun to watch god dammit
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Jul 12, 2017 00:20
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Paul Zuvella posted:He's gonna defend SF or PF so who cares what he calls himself I don't, but he seems hung up on it. Plenty of non-PGs run the offense full-time in the league or split duties, insisting loudly on being labeled the primary ball handler just comes off like he doesn't want to share his toys
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Jul 12, 2017 00:21
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Gonz posted:https://twitter.com/thehoopcentral/status/884911987536175105 Please get Reggie off of Dejan's team so he can get his smile back
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Jul 12, 2017 00:22
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Cool Buff Man posted:Please get Reggie off of Dejan's team so he can get his smile back Yeah but Kibner is going to be sad! (I think Kibner is a Pelicans fan?)
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Jul 12, 2017 00:24
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pubic works project posted:Yeah but Kibner is going to be sad! (I think Kibner is a Pelicans fan?) His utilization would be severely limited in NO compared to Detroit and would, theoretically, cause less damage than he does to the Pistons. He could just blow the whole thing up, however. Atomic knees
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Jul 12, 2017 00:24
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Intruder posted:
he looks really interesting but at times looked out of his depth. I think he'd be better served starting in the d league than warming the bench and maybe following a capela like development trajectory over the next few years. Obviously needs to put on weight too, and just adjusting to the increased speed of the game and getting more consistent. But I really really like his potential.
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Jul 12, 2017 00:27
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Gonz posted:https://twitter.com/thehoopcentral/status/884911987536175105 Etwuan Moore is making like 8.7 for the next 3 years, Ajinca is making about 5m for the next 2 years, that adds up to around 3.5m less than Reggie making 17m a year for 3 years. But who the gently caress is playing point guard. Just Ish Smith and Beno? Gonna sign Monta? 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 There's not even anyone else out there. Tyler Ennis? Ty Lawson? Bobby Brown? Ronnie Price? Trading Tobias Harris for a pg? Starting Michael Gbinje as a pg? I would take the trade, because I don't want to rely on Reggie's chewed up knees holding up. Everything I criticized him about seems unfair to him now that we find out his knees were cartilage free. I wouldn't play hard on defense if my knees were like that. Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Jul 12, 2017 00:28
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Gonz posted:https://twitter.com/thehoopcentral/status/884911987536175105 Oh right, forgot to include Asik in worst contracts in the league
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Jul 12, 2017 00:28
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Dejan Bimble posted:Etwuan Moore is making like 8.7 for the next 3 years, Ajinca is making about 5m for the next 2 years, that adds up to around 3.5m less than Reggie making 17m a year for 3 years. But who the gently caress is playing point guard. Just Ish Smith and Beno? Gonna sign Monta? 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 Yeah sign Monta! He Has It All.
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Jul 12, 2017 00:29
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Jul 12, 2017 00:31
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Ohh there's Sergio Rodriguez, ripe for the pickingpubic works project posted:Yeah sign Monta! He Has It All. When there's a Monta, there's a way
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Jul 12, 2017 00:31
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Can we call Zhou Qi "Dynasty Warrior"
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Jul 12, 2017 00:32
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You can't sign Aaron Brooks, the Rockets need to sign him so they can trade him again for the fourth time. What's the record for being traded by a single team? NickRoweFillea posted:Can we call Zhou Qi "Dynasty Warrior" I'll allow it
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Jul 12, 2017 00:33
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i think i prefer half the fringe list to half the rotation list
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Jul 12, 2017 00:33
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This is proof that the name troll has been an elaborate hoax
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Jul 12, 2017 00:36
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Trick New Orleans into taking Drummond too, Pistons. For picks or money or something.
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Jul 12, 2017 00:40
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G-Hawk posted:i think i prefer half the fringe list to half the rotation list I didn't make the list, this is from Nate Duncan's patreon.
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Jul 12, 2017 00:43
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Gonz posted:Trick New Orleans into taking Drummond too, Pistons. Cousins-AD-Drummond large ball frontcourt lineup would be hilarious
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Jul 12, 2017 00:45
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Remember good rondo 
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Jul 12, 2017 01:04
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cravius posted:Remember good rondo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndyfsS0bFK8
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Jul 12, 2017 01:06
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Ben Simmons wants to be a PG for marketing and ego reasons, who cares If Fultz is nominally the starting 2/3, so be it. Let the soft Aussie have his prize Gonz posted:That 2004 Pistons team was basically "Defense, Defense, Defense and also Defense". Rip in peace, Ben Wallace, you were not appreciated enough
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Jul 12, 2017 01:17
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That Celtics team was really something
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Jul 12, 2017 01:17
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cravius posted:Remember good rondo Yeah April wasn't that long ago.
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Jul 12, 2017 01:19
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So sick Joel Anthony sighting 
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Jul 12, 2017 01:22
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TheKevman posted:So sick Joel Anthony once started a season and played 20 minutes a game because Spo had some numbers saying he was the screen settinest sumbitch ever to set screens time flies when you're having fun
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Jul 12, 2017 01:24
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cravius posted:That Celtics team was really something I hope KD watches film of Garnett setting (illegal) screens on the perimeter all summer so GSW can score 160 a game next year. chunkles posted:Joel Anthony once started a season and played 20 minutes a game because Spo had some numbers saying he was the screen settinest sumbitch ever to set screens I'm always amazed more people didn't just trap off him every possession. It's not like he could catch a pass.
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Jul 12, 2017 01:26
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Cool Buff Man posted:Magic's got a real big ego on him and it's going to hurt the team for a while. He spent the entire offseason preparing for the Lebron/PG plan and the PG plan is already showing its cracks. Maybe you should blow him up I definitely am dreaming of a post-Sovietesque teardown of his statue.
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Jul 12, 2017 01:33
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A thing I realized while taking a nap is that the Rockets would not have been able to trade for Chris Paul if the Lakers hadn't taken back Corey Brewer for some reason in that trade where they should've just been able to trade Lou Williams for a draft pick to one of the several teams that was allegedly interested in doing that. If "having Chris Paul" is the best actual way to get Lebron next year it would be pretty funny to me that Johnson basically helped make it happen, but for another team.
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Jul 12, 2017 01:41
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