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I was going to mock them for sewing their stripes on the wrong way, but turns out that they also used to have good conduct stripes that pointed upwards, so I suspect that someone has put a great deal of effort getting all the badges and things right!
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So I have a probably overly general question. Something I've seen fairly regularly is the following sequence: King gets deposed and killed, and within a generation, a person shows up saying "I am the son of $KING and the current king is an evil usurper, rise against him!". Generally historians look back and decide, nah, he was lying. What I've been wondering is, would their supporters at the time have generally believed that an individual like Wang Lang or the parade of false Dmitrys who they claimed to be, or was it more of a way of an excuse to throw the bums out? If it's not possible to generalize across so much time and space, that's also fine.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:At least the shovel could be used as a blunt object. Au contraire; it was far heavier and bulkier than the issue entrenching tool, it had only a long handle (making it too long to swing properly in a trench), and its edge could not be easily sharpened. You wouldn't think that a shovel with a big spike on it could be worse to fight with than a regular shovel, but you'd be wrong...
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Welp!
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aphid_licker posted:Good old Mitsubishi Dildoworks Given everything else Mitsubishi Group is involved in, I wouldn't be surprised (to name a few: the biggest bank in Japan, plastics, paper mills, military aircraft, cars, home electronics, and photography -- Nikon doesn't use the three diamonds but is a member). Edit: It's more a semi-formal collusion of independent businesses (and Mitsubishi-actual's subsidiaries and spinoffs), sort of like how the oil companies after Standard or the Baby Bells continued to unofficially enforce their officially-broken-up-monopolies (or something like that, I've been reading a lot about telephone history after learning the other day that my cellphone provider started out as a railroad). Edit again: kind of a tangent because it doesn't directly deal with milhist, but TR broke up one of 'em, so close enough I guess: those two examples of American monopolies are coming back together like the shattered T-1000 -- rough napkin math based on wikipedia entries on the successor companies says that about 40% in each field each have bought each other out and are making a comeback. In more pertinent news, occasionally I drive past a Martin Marietta concrete plant, and always do a double-take at their banner announcing the companywide award they won last year, which depicts an airplane-themed trophy (a propeller and/or wings or some poo poo) ... oh wait that's the "Martin" in "Lockheed Martin". There were some weird corporate acquisitions in the '60s and spinoffs in the '90s. Cf. two leather companies being mainly known for their computers now. Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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It's probably not an intentional resemblance but I read every Delivery McGee post in the voice of an old man sat on a sunny porch telling meandering stories about back in his day to a cloud of hovering youngsters and it fits perfectly and greatly improves my forums experiece. Keep doing you, Delivery
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HookedOnChthonics posted:It's probably not an intentional resemblance but I read every Delivery McGee post in the voice of an old man sat on a sunny porch telling meandering stories about back in his day to a cloud of hovering youngsters and it fits perfectly and greatly improves my forums experiece. Well, given that all the "funny" war stories I post are from my father and I try to tell them like he told them to me, I've been accused of acting like an old man since I was 25, I'm a Texan (a damned dirty liberal, but I have the proper accent for telling stories on the porch), and tend to not think of additional comments until I read my own post after posting ... you're not all that far off, I guess. I hope to actually be that guy you're picturing to my nephews' kids. Right now the nephews are the hovering youngsters and my father/their grandpa fills that role, I'm just the uncle that can't be trusted to babysit (because they might come back missing fingats, I'd be too lenient/encouraging of their scientific interests). Back more on-topic-ish, last weekend the power at my house was out so I had to spend a night on my parents' couch. Dad sleeps in the living-room recliner because his sternum didn't heal right after the triple bypass a few years ago, and it hurts him to lie flat one a bed; Mom felt the need to warn me not to try to be quiet when walking past him. No poo poo, Ma, I grew up hearing stories of him throwing my older half-sister through walls when she was a toddler because he sleeps with one eye open after his service as a Green Beret in Vietnam. To paraphrase his recounting of it, he told sis' mom "Don't tell her to be quiet when Daddy's sleeping! Let her bang the pans together, just as long as I know she's not sneaking up on me!" PTSD is a hell of a thing. I fuckin' announced my presence in a quiet conversational tone every time I walked by to go out and smoke. So, uh, has it been long enough to warrant posting "The First Five Minutes of Patton" again? I really should pressure my pa again to tell his "funny"* war stories on video, given his recent health troubles. (The other day, when I was at his house, he asked me if he was technically a zombie, having gone into full everything arrest and been revived.) Maybe this time he'll give in and record his telling of them for history's sake. *if you haven't read the times I previously posted them, it's funny in the sense that Hegel's guys shooting out windows and accidentally plugging a friend in the head are funny.
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So, I was chatting with my Dad today and he showed me a book he had picked up about the history of Native Americans and we got to talking about the pre-Colombian tribes/movements and how little the both of us know. I know this is the milHist thread, but in that context at least, does anyone have any stories or recommended readings about the pre-Colombian Native Americans / First Peoples of the New World?
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Cyrano4747 posted:Hugh Thomas's The Spanish Civil War is an oldie but a goodie as far as getting the political and military narrative down. I had a similar question in grad school about needing a single volume primer on the conflict and it's what my adviser tossed me. Thanks.
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Greatbacon posted:So, I was chatting with my Dad today and he showed me a book he had picked up about the history of Native Americans and we got to talking about the pre-Colombian tribes/movements and how little the both of us know. Charles Mann's 1491 is an excellent overview.
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Mycroft Holmes posted:
I follow South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the UK, Nepal, and India, but who's between Australia and Canada?
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spectralent posted:I follow South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the UK, Nepal, and India, but who's between Australia and Canada? Newfoundland, which wasn't a part of Canada until after WWII.
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Jehde posted:Newfoundland, which wasn't a part of Canada until after WWII. Aaah, of course.
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That picture's meant to represent Imperial participants in War One right?
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Yeah. Original source, including where they try to explain the shovel thing in Korean... https://twitter.com/jk100687/status/825621779125202946
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OwlFancier posted:Wh... Looks like someone doesn't understand the utility of blood grooves E: The zaibatsu in question is Hitachi, right? I bone too much Tias fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Mycroft Holmes posted:
A veritable "Genki Gurkha Girl".
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Elyv posted:So I have a probably overly general question. Something I've seen fairly regularly is the following sequence: King gets deposed and killed, and within a generation, a person shows up saying "I am the son of $KING and the current king is an evil usurper, rise against him!". Generally historians look back and decide, nah, he was lying. What I've been wondering is, would their supporters at the time have generally believed that an individual like Wang Lang or the parade of false Dmitrys who they claimed to be, or was it more of a way of an excuse to throw the bums out? If it's not possible to generalize across so much time and space, that's also fine. To make a massive generalisation across time and space - typically the nobility propping up a claimant know full well the tenuousness of a claim to the throne, they're not committing themselves to a coup attempt because of dedication to a certain interpretation of the purity of the bloodline, they're doing so to get their faction back in charge of the country. Below the top level of supporters people may or may not have cared depending on the circumstances.
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I imagine it may be important for rebelling nobility to frame their claim to power in a way that doesn't question the validity of inheritance in general and the overall social hierarchy.
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Still more Japanese Engines! It's time to move on to some new companies after finishing off Aichi and Kawasaki. As most of you have guessed, this update's about Hitachi, makers of a popular magic wand, as well as Gasuden, a company that merged with Hitachi prior to the start of WW2. Gasuden (Tokyo Gasu Denki Kogyo KK) was actually the first civil manufacturer of aero engines in Japan, providing engines for the Army. The engines were licensed-built products from companies such as Salmson, Daimler, Rhone, and Benz. Some years later, Gasuden picked up on the Japanese government's demands for self-reliance, rather than building foreign products in home factories. This led them to develop 4 separate engines, all of which were accepted by the military. These were the Jimpu, Tempu, Hatakaze, and Urakaze. The latter two did not proceed to mass production, but both the Jimpu and Tempu were used throughout the entire war. The Jimpu was a 130hp radial engine first built in 1929. The author notes that all Jimpu engines used a two-bladed propeller. The Tempu was a 7-cylinder air-cooled radial, like the Jimpu, but was rated at 300hp, and became a huge success after a small period of teething problems. The Hatakaze, on the other hand, is relatively obscure. It is known to be an air-cooled 4-cylinder inverted in-line engine rated at 90hp. It was used in the K4Y1 prototype, but would later be replaced by the Jimpu 2 and then fades into the background. The Urakaze was a water-cooled 6-cylinder inverted in-line engine rated at 300hp and used with the experimental Aichi flying boat "AB-4". All 6 prototypes used Urakaze engines, but the aircraft design never caught on. Several planes were sold/released to the civilian market, where they kept their original pusher-configuration engines. The engines were, apparently, well liked and reliable. The Jimpu's further development saw 4 other versions being produced, not included the original model. The last in the line, the Jimpu 6, would reach a rated hp of around 310. The majority of this lineage of engines would be installed in trainers, transports, and test aircraft. By the time Gasuden had merged with Hitachi, no new development was taking place with Jimpu engines. The later Jimpu engines would receive the Joint Designation, a system used by the Japanese to simplify naming conventions, [Ha-21]. The Tempu would end up having a much larger number of variants, but received a name change post-merger, being re-christened the Amakaze. At its highest point, Tempu engines clocked in at 510hp. As with the Jimpu, the engines were mostly installed in trainers and transport aircraft. The Tempu 12, in particular, has a claim to fame, as it was the engine that powered the Yokosuka E14Y, one such floatplane being used to bomb mainland USA. Tempu engines, pre-Amakaze, received the JD [Ha-23]. In May 1939, Gasuden was no more, as it merged with Hitachi, becoming a part of Hitachi Aircraft Co. Ltd. The merger caused all of Gasuden's engines to receive a name change, partly due to the different styles of names (Jimpu vs Hatakaze). Jimpu became Shimpu, and sometimes Kamikaze, while Tempu became Amakaze. The Navy continued to refer to the engines as Shimpu and Tempu, and the Army didn't care because it didn't use names for engines. So with that, the Tempu became the Amakaze with the JD Ha-23. Amakaze engines powered the Ki-27 trainer, known as the Ki-79, as well as the K5Y trainer, one of which is credited with sinking the last US Ship loss in WW2. Amakaze 31s were supplied for the Kyushu Q1W, a plane with a remarkable resemblance to the German Ju-88. The last Amakaze variant, the 33, was rated at 640hp. Hitachi also had a number of projects during the war, these being the Ha-43, Ha-44, Ha-120, Ha-200, and [Ha-83], which none made it very far into development. It should be noted that the Ha- number does not necessarily mean a Joint Designation number, as that usually takes the form of [Ha-XX]XX which I usually simplify to Ha-XX, but since the book also refers to their Hatsudoki designation, which ALSO takes the form of Ha-XX, I will therefore attempt to bracket [] all Joint Designation Ha- references from here on out. Summary Gasuden/Hitachi engines are regarded as smaller engines, and being quite simple. While this may sound bad, it was particularly useful for their role in trainer and reconnaissance aircraft as they were more reliable, thus requiring less maintenance, and consumed less fuel. Another thing to mention is that these engines were comparable to other nations throughout the war, and though Hitachi only experimented with diesel engines, it hinted at the potential for more advanced designs. Gasuden/Hitachi would go on to produce 13,571 engines, ranking them 3rd in overall production.
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Greatbacon posted:So, I was chatting with my Dad today and he showed me a book he had picked up about the history of Native Americans and we got to talking about the pre-Colombian tribes/movements and how little the both of us know. Vincent Van Goatse posted:Charles Mann's 1491 is an excellent overview. Not pre-Colombian but I'm a HUGE fan of Richter's Facing East from Indian Country. It looks at the period from roughly first white settlement to American independence through the lens of the natives who were already there. The book as a whole is good, but the first part where he talks at length about the issues inherent in doing that kind of history is the part that I constantly go back to. Admittedly that's a historian's perspective, so you might not give as much of a gently caress about that.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Not pre-Colombian but I'm a HUGE fan of Richter's Facing East from Indian Country. It looks at the period from roughly first white settlement to American independence through the lens of the natives who were already there. The book as a whole is good, but the first part where he talks at length about the issues inherent in doing that kind of history is the part that I constantly go back to. Admittedly that's a historian's perspective, so you might not give as much of a gently caress about that. Seconded, it's an excellent book.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Seconded, it's an excellent book. It's one of those books that I got assigned as an undergrad, didn't appreciate at all, and then had to read again in grad school and was amazed at just what an idiot undergrad-me was.
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Is "The Crusades: The Authoritative History of the War for the Holy Land" worth an audible credit?
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bewbies posted:Is "The Crusades: The Authoritative History of the War for the Holy Land" worth an audible credit? I haven't read it myself, but it appears to pass a basic check. The Guardian review looks promising. The author is a tenured professor at a respectable university.
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I'm reading up on some Yugoslav Partizan formations in one of the areas my family is from (Lika - I hope you like broken terrain, scorching summers, freezing winters, winds blowing at up to a hundred miles per hour, and carbonate rock, because hoooooo boy, good luck finding something else there). There's a lot of stuff based on anecdotes told by fighters and the unit paperwork keeping fairly accurate track of combat aftermath, and it's kinda cool recognizing some of the stuff I heard about from my family. A couple of funny anecdotes:
Some actually rather creepy stuff:
Stuff that I found interesting:
my dad fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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my dad posted:[*]It was not unusual for women Partizans to be careful to save their last bullet when at risk of getting captured alive by fascist/nationalist militias. This is apparently SOP for YPJ soldiers, and probably a lot of other female soldiers throughout history.
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this is going to sound gratuitously morbid, but although early modern sources up until candide discuss that rape happened to men and boys too, modern sources don't mention it at all. i've been wondering why: a change in the atrocities themselves, or is there one thing modern male soldiers refuse to even entertain the idea of?TerminalSaint posted:This is apparently SOP for YPJ soldiers, and probably a lot of other female soldiers throughout history. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Everyone loves weird hats right?
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Siivola posted:Everyone loves weird hats right?
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TerminalSaint posted:This is apparently SOP for YPJ soldiers, and probably a lot of other female soldiers throughout history. YPJ?
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Nebakenezzer posted:YPJ?
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HEY GAIL posted:this is going to sound gratuitously morbid, but although early modern sources up until candide discuss that rape happened to men and boys too, modern sources don't mention it at all. i've been wondering why: a change in the atrocities themselves, or is there one thing modern male soldiers refuse to even entertain the idea of? I'm voting for option number 2 https://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men quote:Because there has been so little research into the rape of men during war, it's not possible to say with any certainty why it happens or even how common it is – although a rare 2010 survey, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, found that 22% of men and 30% of women in Eastern Congo reported conflict-related sexual violence.
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Siivola posted:Everyone loves weird hats right? could you translate the finnish runes?
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Trin Tragula posted:I'm voting for option number 2 HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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I would think a lot of it has to do with cultural norms as well. For example, do you see as much male on male sexual violence in the Ukraine as in the Congo? Are there cultural factors at work that make it more or less taboo to rape another man? edit: this can also, of course, be asked of different times as well. Did something happen in 17th century Europe that all of a sudden made penetrating another man (willing or otherwise) more of a taboo than before?
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Black Leaf posted:could you translate the finnish runes? Those are Korean tho, can't help you with them. We had a hyperwar about it and everything.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I would think a lot of it has to do with cultural norms as well. For example, do you see as much male on male sexual violence in the Ukraine as in the Congo? Are there cultural factors at work that make it more or less taboo to rape another man? I dunno, I keep reading stories out of the Middle East conflict about men sexually assaulting other men, usually with dildos or hands. It's just hardly ever direct penis-in-orifice, so no one really thinks about it as rape.
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