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It's not USB-the-protocol that's at fault afaict, but a near-universal implementation flaw in the devices. Implementers could check the opaque firmware for a valid signature after the last DFU_DNLOAD command is processed. E: it looks like IronKey gets it right, as one example. Elizabethan Error posted:because if it wasn't and the firmware gets borked, you've now got a paperweight that was formerly a usb drive. Can you think of a USB device that has had a controller firmware update, or made the firmware available for repair? I admit that I can't. Subjunctive has a new favorite as of 21:29 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Flying fish can make powerful, self-propelled leaps out of water into air, where their long, wing-like fins enable gliding flight for considerable distances above the water's surface. This uncommon ability is a natural defence mechanism to evade predators.
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Elizabethan Error posted:because if it wasn't and the firmware gets borked, you've now got a paperweight that was formerly a usb drive. Then give it a method of rewriting the firmware that isn't just plugging it into a machine the same way you do every other time you use it. At least make you like, pop a cover and open/close a jumper to stop the firmware being write accessible Subjunctive posted:Can you think of a USB device that has had a controller firmware update, or made the firmware available for repair? I admit that I can't. Also this. I've never had to repair the firmware of a USB, because every time I've broken one it's because the thing was physically damaged so I tossed it. If one did break in the firmware I'd just get a new one, because I don't store anything vital on it and whatever I had there I can just get back from my computer anyway. I've never had a stick that had firmware update or repair as an advertised feature.
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Is “USB device” synonymous with “USB flash drive” for kids these days? I’ve never updated a flash drive’s firmware, but I have updated plenty of other devices’ firmware via USB.
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VideoGames posted:I didn't know who she was so I went and looked her up and good grief she has earned a whole decade off to party if she really wants! I don't even have a medal, let alone that many golds and Olympic ones! "A once-in-a-generation talent who dominated every Olympic event she was in went to THE BEACH and STARBUCKS?! Kids these days are so lazy and selfish" edit: Don't feel bad, you can still fulfill your life's dream of having as many Tour de France titles as Lance Armstrong!
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Baronjutter posted:How do the drives infect? Wouldn't you have to run a program or something or are computers insane and auto-run things off a usb? layoffs_august_2017.pdf.exe Even with Autorun disabled, every single person who plugged that usb stick in is opening that file.
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Wait, we're not supposed to run on a work computer the random flash drives we find? But if I run it on my home computer, it could have something malicious on it!
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Ak Gara posted:Wait, we're not supposed to run on a work computer the random flash drives we find? But if I run it on my home computer, it could have something malicious on it! Every office should just have a stand alone computer not connected to anything right by the front door so employees can satisfy their monkeybrain curiosity without doing harm.
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Subjunctive posted:It's not USB-the-protocol that's at fault afaict, but a near-universal implementation flaw in the devices. Implementers could check the opaque firmware for a valid signature after the last DFU_DNLOAD command is processed.
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Worth noting that any USB device can contain malware. It's not restricted to flash drives.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Every office should just have a stand alone computer not connected to anything right by the front door so employees can satisfy their monkeybrain curiosity without doing harm. IT should just unplug all usb ports
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Elizabethan Error posted:USB /device/ yes, usb drive no. there's plenty of things that update firmware via usb. No, they don't update the USB controller's firmware, which is the software at issue. That is a separate component from the phone/printer/vacuum/router's firmware that's being updated via the USB controller.
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Azhais posted:IT should just unplug all usb ports There are always people who will actually need their USB ports for things, I often have work-critical stuff plugged in to my machine. I'm probably the only person on these boards who has a usb 3.5" floppy drive plugged into their work computer. Also if my IT department are anything to go by they want nothing at all to do with actual hardware of machines beyond plugging in monitors.
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Memento posted:There are always people who will actually need their USB ports for things, I often have work-critical stuff plugged in to my machine. Like, often, keyboards and mice.
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Memento posted:I'm probably the only person on these boards who has a usb 3.5" floppy drive plugged into their work computer. Just lol if your CNC is new enough to use 3.5". Program that poo poo on 5 and a quarter.
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Subjunctive posted:Like, often, keyboards and mice. That's what crazy glue is for
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never stick your usb where it doesn't belong. I thought everyone knew this.
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ilmucche posted:Just lol if your CNC is new enough to use 3.5". Program that poo poo on 5 and a quarter. Gravimeter, but yeah. It's not quite that old. My boss was furious when one of our students dropped his Windows 95 laptop that he had been using to program it because he thought once it was broken that was it. The idea that you could get a USB floppy drive was a revelation to him. Then we shipped it to Brazil to run a survey, and found out in order to ship it back we would have to pay export duty worth about 2/3 as much as a brand new one.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Reminder that people on the Internet poo poo all over her because she stood at attention instead of putting her hand over her heart or whatever during the US anthem. Even though she was raised in a military household and was taught to do that. That was Gabby Douglas, the other amazing black gymnast treated poorly.
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this thread really makes you appreciate the resilience of the human body.
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I... guess he was trying to jump over both tables? Man I wish I had that guy's self-confidence.
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Tip Shades posted:I... guess he was trying to jump over both tables? What about his broken jaw and/or neck?
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Memento posted:I'm probably the only person on these boards who has a usb 3.5" floppy drive plugged into their work computer. Wth do you need a floppy drive for? Only thing I can think of is that you work with antiquated equipment that need updating by it, otherwise just use images
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Ima Giraffe posted:That was Gabby Douglas, the other amazing black gymnast treated poorly. It's me, I'm the internet racist now. Give me your best Holocaust denials! I have a poor memory.
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djssniper posted:Wth do you need a floppy drive for? Only thing I can think of is that you work with antiquated equipment that need updating by it, otherwise just use images That's really weird, I thought for a second you were the guy who had already joked about having a CNC machine even older than only ran off 5.25" floppies. We have an mid-90s Scintrex gravimeter that has zero connections to the outside except for a floppy drive. If you want to get data off it, you need 3.5"s, and if you want to do anything with that data, you need some way to put it on a modern computer.
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Memento posted:That's really weird, I thought for a second you were the guy who had already joked about having a CNC machine even older than only ran off 5.25" floppies. We have an mid-90s Scintrex gravimeter that has zero connections to the outside except for a floppy drive. If you want to get data off it, you need 3.5"s, and if you want to do anything with that data, you need some way to put it on a modern computer. https://www.amazon.com/Generic-SFR1M44-U-Emulator-Industrial-Equipment/dp/B008HYT6T2
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Burning_Monk posted:https://www.amazon.com/Generic-SFR1M44-U-Emulator-Industrial-Equipment/dp/B008HYT6T2 Yeah we looked at those but it's such a sensitive machine, we're not sure that opening it up will mean it still operates within spec. And it's such an old machine, no one can give us a straight answer on that. Anyways, like I said it's in Brazil now and chances are good it's not coming back, so we're probably going to be in the market for a new one before the end of the year. Or we might just start farming the work out to contractors.
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Burning_Monk posted:https://www.amazon.com/Generic-SFR1M44-U-Emulator-Industrial-Equipment/dp/B008HYT6T2 Yeah we looked into something like this for our CNC mills, but turns out that because it's still emulating a floppy drive, the machine can't just stream the g-code off the "disc" so each file is limited to 1.44MB or the machine won't read it. Now we program the machine at 115200bps RS232 with a 30-foot DB9
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Admiral Joeslop posted:It's me, I'm the internet racist now. Give me your best Holocaust denials! Just proves that badass athletes who also happen to be black women scare people a lot and make them uncomfortable and that's some good schadenfreude too? It would be nice if it was only one person who got this poo poo though.
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Memento posted:layoffs_august_2017.pdf.exe "Hide extension of known file types"
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Some horse schadenfreude  instead of writing the families phone number on the horse the son painted it completely. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/rosy-pink-mistakenly-painted-horse-brings-levity-to-b-c-wildfire-fight-1.4201474 "She's old so she doesn't really give a (care) about anything anymore other than just eating," he joked. "She's a very expensive lawn ornament."\
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