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Palladium posted:The Street Fighter Spaniard is barely out and we are already counting on blue Pandorian cathumans to save AMD's rear end. Do they call it the AMD RX Bison, or the RX Balrog in Japan?
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Riflen posted:In a shocking turn, it's looking like Vega RX may only be revealed at Siggraph, or at best the release of AMD reference boards only. I'd say mid-august at the earliest for AIB cards.
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so there's still a chance that Volta will launch before Vega AIBs become available. 
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eames posted:so there's still a chance that Volta will launch before Vega AIBs become available. I can only hope so, I've been waiting a long time to upgrade from my 970.
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eames posted:so there's still a chance that Volta will launch before Vega AIBs become available. The late 2016 release date was a typographical error.
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My CS:GO crashed into a black screen then the game ran as normal as if nothing happened. Ran GPU-Z and found my 1070 running only at 8x mode. Reseating the card in the slot fixed the problem, got back 16x.
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Jul 12, 2017 13:00
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I'd say mid-august at the earliest for AIB cards. Wasn't it leaked that they don't even get a 'release' quality Vega BIOS until August 2.? You can slap on 6 weeks plus to that.
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sauer kraut posted:Wasn't it leaked that they don't even get a 'release' quality Vega BIOS until August 2.? Ummm, yes? I was replying to that very post. The minimum lag time before AIBs getting BIOS in and some cards making it to market should be around two weeks if they rush, I'd expect wider availability a month or so after.
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A nice dose of comedy for your morning:r/AMD delusions posted:We have all said that Vega FE release was a crapshoot and it definitely underwhelmed the gaming community who took it's performance as a measure to judge Vega.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:A nice dose of comedy for your morning: 
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wow thats some 9th degree checkers business strategy
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Those amd fanboys can't see the forest for trees on Vega. Product looks poor
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:A nice dose of comedy for your morning: quote:I do believe we're in for a definite surprise at Siggraph And how.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/235092/intel-says-amd-epyc-processors-glued-together-in-official-slide-deck Looking forward to "nvidia says navi gpus "glued-together".
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:A nice dose of comedy for your morning: If Vega isn't bad, it'll be good!
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Truga posted:https://www.techpowerup.com/235092/intel-says-amd-epyc-processors-glued-together-in-official-slide-deck Turns out Vega's entire problem was too much glue. Disassembling the die and replacing the interposer glue with Artic Silver 5 got me 20C temp drops and saved 50W!
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Truga posted:https://www.techpowerup.com/235092/intel-says-amd-epyc-processors-glued-together-in-official-slide-deck Maybe they won't say anything and just own it in performance. And then release something MCM'd.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:A nice dose of comedy for your morning: At this point I don't disagree with him. Vega seems to be consuming way more power than predicted for its given performance. Like OK, maybe AdoredTV has been right all along and 1080 performance is roughly where this will land, but I don't think anyone figured it would be eating 400W to do it. Something went wrong. I just disagree about the "and then it will surely be fixed in RX Vega in 2 weeks". If this wasn't reflective of the drivers or performance that RX Vega will provide, AMD would be shouting it from the rooftops. Radio silence means bad news. The idea that AMD is somehow sneaking one past NVIDIA by making Vega FE super lovely is batshit crazy though. People are bailing in droves and buying Pascal, it's not in AMD's interest to sandbag on a product that's already horrifically late. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:At this point I don't disagree with him. Vega seems to be consuming way more power than predicted for its given performance. Like OK, maybe AdoredTV has been right all along and 1080 performance is roughly where this will land, but I don't think anyone figured it would be eating 400W to do it. Something went wrong. You mean you dont agree that AMD intentionally released gimped drivers to lower Nvidias expectations just to turn around and go Hah! 3 weeks later and surprise them with functioning drivers to totally ... steal... the GPU market with a 1080ti killer??? edit: aw I didnt see the edit but my quote button did lol
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Sold my RX 480's for $300/per on craigslist  . Better than loving with ebay and having to ship things.
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fknlo posted:Sold my RX 480's for $300/per on craigslist Nicely done, that owns.
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Twerk from Home posted:Nicely done, that owns. Didn't even get raped or murdered! I had one guy trying to get me down to $550 or so but gently caress that guy. "Well the sellers on ebay are really only getting $X and it wouldn't be fair blah blah blah". I was just going to send them to a friend that was going to mine with them and send me the profits if they didn't sell this week.
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fknlo posted:Sold my RX 480's for $300/per on craigslist I just tossed mine up too for the same, was trying to sell a whole gaming PC with it in it, but might as well part that thing out.
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fknlo posted:"Well the sellers on ebay are really only getting $X and it wouldn't be fair blah blah blah". Oh what? then go to Ebay, rear end in a top hat.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Oh what? then go to Ebay, rear end in a top hat. But I would prefer the option to rape and/or murder you when we meet in person! eBay doesn't offer you such options, rear end in a top hat.
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Both parties, locked in a logic loop with no end in sight, die from the elements leaving both GPUs tragically unable to mine burritos ever again
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I was reading a reddit post asking why Galax, Palit, Gainward, and a couple other brands are not in the NA market (my best guess, they don't think the accounting/RMA overhead is worth it for a market 15% the size of China+the EU combined). That reminded me though, what the gently caress was Galax's deal with that public flameout a couple years ago? quote:Signs of this were foreshadowed since late last year, but we were hoping to not see Galaxy move out of the US market. However now, even though Galaxy will not respond to our emails, it seems as though the fork has been stuck in Galaxy, because it is all but done. Emails to Galaxy in November of last year questioning strategy and product direction from HardOCP went unanswered. Galaxy has also been unresponsive in terms of continuing advertising with HardOCP in 2014. It ignored organizing promotions that were already paid for (6 Weeks of Christmas) with us in which we usually offer six Galaxy video cards to our readers. It instead offered us some warehoused power supplies that are not sold in the United States and we declined. We never heard from Galaxy again on advertising. Galaxy had also promised review samples of new NVIDIA GPU products that were never delivered. No communication was made that the new video cards were no long coming either. A video card vendor going silent about advertising budgets is certainly not unheard of, but one that suddenly does not want its products reviewed is something of a red flag. quote:Update - 3:44PM CDT - From Galaxy NA's Facebook Page: Which they obviously didn't, Galax has no US market presence other than direct sales through their website. So like... what the gently caress happened there? A couple months later Galaxy did end up doing a merger with KFA2 to form the "Galax" brand so I can understand a little bit of internal turmoil. But it's not like the CEO is answering the phone and coordinating product shipments. Disappearing off the radar for months even to your subsidiaries is just loving weird. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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RX Vega lineup Looking like there won't be top-end Vega cards from the AIB partners? https://videocardz.com/70890/amd-radeon-rx-vega-xtx-vega-xt-and-vega-xl
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Cygni posted:RX Vega lineup I'm not sure where you are getting that from? It says that the cut down version will be AIB only, not that the high end version is AMD only.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I'm not sure where you are getting that from? It says that the cut down version will be AIB only, not that the high end version is AMD only. With "AIO Cooler" there is a strong implication of being reference-only, like the Fury X. Partners get to put their labels on them, but no aftermarket boards or open-cooler options.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I'm not sure where you are getting that from? It says that the cut down version will be AIB only, not that the high end version is AMD only. maybe im reading too far into it, but saying "and this segment is AIB only!" implies to me that they plan on releasing first party cards in the other segments. seems strange to be competing against your own AIB partners for sales, unless its something like the Founders Editions where they are gonna mandate stuff at first and then let the AIBs do their own thing after that?
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I think you are reading to much into it. It'll probably be like the RX 480 launch where initially every card was a reference design. Custom designs from the AIBs where not available until a month or two after launch. The Vega XL being AIB exclusive probably means there won't be a reference design for it and it won't be available until the AIBs get their own designs out.
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oh ok, that makes sense. ill be honest, i didnt really pay attention to the RX480 after the launch reviews.
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Drakhoran posted:I think you are reading to much into it. It'll probably be like the RX 480 launch where initially every card was a reference design. Custom designs from the AIBs where not available until a month or two after launch. The Vega XL being AIB exclusive probably means there won't be a reference design for it and it won't be available until the AIBs get their own designs out. I wonder if that is because of bios stuff?
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Seriously, this is just like the Fury X. AIB partners get to put their sticker on it but it's a reference-only product.
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I'm ~assuming~ the AIO Vega is literally the same as the regular Vega so AIB for that part number probably dont make much sense since they can just put a watercooler on the chips they do have and accomplish the same thing but... kind of moot either way I guess. It says 375 fuckin watts on it stock its hard to believe still
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1gnoirents posted:I'm ~assuming~ the AIO Vega is literally the same as the regular Vega so AIB for that part number probably dont make much sense since they can just put a watercooler on the chips they do have and accomplish the same thing but... kind of moot either way I guess. It says 375 fuckin watts on it stock its hard to believe still On a power-limited card, a 375W card is a significant upgrade from a 300W one. AMD going for dat market segmentation.
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Paul MaudDib posted:On a power-limited card, a 375W card is a significant upgrade from a 300W one. I mean, couldn't an AIB slap an AIO on an "air cool" Vega they do have access to and use more power? Or am I misunderstanding entirely
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1gnoirents posted:I mean, couldn't an AIB slap an AIO on an "air cool" Vega they do have access to and use more power? Or am I misunderstanding entirely "AIO Cooler [only]" How many air-cooled Fury Xs did you see?
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