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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I've heard of a company using it to prevent people from driving on the phone. I guess they had a senior engineer die on a conference call, so that was a big ordeal.

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Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Eh... I guess. My opinion, if that's the problem, just put it in writing and get employees to sign off understanding that it is a fire-able offense, no exceptions.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


I so enjoy phone calls with my boss at 7:30AM on the way to work and I feel like one of us is going to have a car wreck as a result of it.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

At my old job there was one manager who loved video calls and he also loved being a micromanaging piece of human garbage, so I've always associated the two.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Vargatron posted:

I so enjoy phone calls with my boss at 7:30AM on the way to work and I feel like one of us is going to have a car wreck as a result of it.

Tell them you have horrible sense of direction and need GPS on at all times and have every notification on so it's constantly saying "pothole on road ahead" "In three point five miles exit right to exit 11 bee" you could even just make the audio file so it's full of even more alerts. The idea is he will hear this constantly and you can't turn it off or you'll miss a turn and end up several hours late to work!

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo
At my place remote or wfh people have the option of video or audio for the daily standup. Almost everyone chooses video and we usually end up spending about 5 minutes out of the 15 laughing at somebody's cat.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





pixaal posted:

Tell them you have horrible sense of direction and need GPS on at all times and have every notification on so it's constantly saying "pothole on road ahead" "In three point five miles exit right to exit 11 bee" you could even just make the audio file so it's full of even more alerts. The idea is he will hear this constantly and you can't turn it off or you'll miss a turn and end up several hours late to work!

When I was on the road a lot my policy was not to have work conversations while driving. It was too distracting for me and I couldn't give the discussions the proper amount of attention I wanted. Never had any complaints from anyone about it.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

I've had to tell my boss as well as the owner of the company multiple times that I'm in the car driving to/from the office or whatever, and I can either pull over at the next exit or talk to them once I'm at my destination. They always opt for destination and never give me flak about not talking to them while driving.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

CLAM DOWN posted:

Like 80% of this industry doesn't believe you, they say whilst chugging a freshly cracked Dew
I drove 4 miles for this fountain Code Red and you can pry it from my dead loving hands

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?

Vulture Culture posted:

Facial cues and body language are still important, even for you antipathetic emotional robots working in tech.

This is actually why I dislike video chat, there's some freaky mental disconnect when seeing and talking to someone but they're not actually there for me to make eye contact with. Plus the whole ream of issues with lag time, microphone and background noise fuckery.

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



Vulture Culture posted:

I drove 4 miles for this fountain Code Red and you can pry it from my dead loving hands

:vince:

The closest fountain Code Red is just right up the street for me so no bigs.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Super Slash posted:

This is actually why I dislike video chat, there's some freaky mental disconnect when seeing and talking to someone but they're not actually there for me to make eye contact with. Plus the whole ream of issues with lag time, microphone and background noise fuckery.
Have you tried video chatting with people who are functional adults and know not to run blenders while they're on a conference call? It's kind of refreshing.

Weird thing about audio packets is they take the same time to make a round-trip whether there's video on the call or not, so I don't know what that's about.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Vulture Culture posted:

Have you tried video chatting with people who are functional adults and know not to run blenders while they're on a conference call? It's kind of refreshing.

Weird thing about audio packets is they take the same time to make a round-trip whether there's video on the call or not, so I don't know what that's about.

Even if there's limited bandwidth and no QOS running? If video is causing a bottleneck on some 8 year old wrt54g running defaults from the box, I don't think you can say the audio packet isn't impacted.

JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax
im ok with video calls as long as ur ok with my dick being out

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


If you're remote. You're video conference friendly. I'll take the 5 minutes to comb my hair so I don't have to drive to work. How is this a loving issue?

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

jaegerx posted:

If you're remote. You're video conference friendly. I'll take the 5 minutes to comb my hair so I don't have to drive to work. How is this a loving issue?

For the time and effort to set up a video conference just to talk to someone, you can pick up a phone and dial a number for the same end-result.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
I work remote. I think being able to see a real human in a video chat is an important psychological trigger that reminds you of what you're doing and why. If it wasn't for my daily scrum meeting I'd literally never see any of the people that I work with. That would seriously negatively affect my perception of my own work, others' work and the company as a whole.

Working remotely has utterly enabled my shut-in tendencies so my meetings may well be the only face-face communication I have at all in a given week. I'd be even more of a basket case without that type of contact.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

For the time and effort to set up a video conference just to talk to someone, you can pick up a phone and dial a number for the same end-result.
the future is now

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


If I was 100% remote I'd really struggle to resist the urge to buy a green screen and light it all appropriately and then put in different backgrounds for each call.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

Thanks Ants posted:

If I was 100% remote I'd really struggle to resist the urge to buy a green screen and light it all appropriately and then put in different backgrounds for each call.

Yeah, calling in from a different tropical location every time.

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


SEKCobra posted:

Yeah, calling in from a different tropical location every time.

Get someone at work to take a good quality still of the office conference room and make it look like you are in there.
Or the office shitter, either/or.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:
Someone in here who works from home needs to do this ASAP and post results, please.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I have a better idea. Get them to take a picture outside of the conference room and deliver your part of the standup as if you were a reporter at the scene.

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

Thanks Ants posted:

If I was 100% remote I'd really struggle to resist the urge to buy a green screen and light it all appropriately and then put in different backgrounds for each call.

Or wear a green shirt and appear as a literal floating head.

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?

Thanks Ants posted:

If I was 100% remote I'd really struggle to resist the urge to buy a green screen and light it all appropriately and then put in different backgrounds for each call.

Clearly the answer is to start using Facebook conferencing and Snapchat, minions goggles for all!

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Super Slash posted:

Clearly the answer is to start using Facebook conferencing and Snapchat, minions goggles for all!

Let's take a vote. Dog nose for yes, barfing rainbows for no ... The dogs have it.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


bull3964 posted:

I have a better idea. Get them to take a picture outside of the conference room and deliver your part of the standup as if you were a reporter at the scene.

Go to the office early one weekend morning and put police tape up outside the building and record a few minutes of stock footage to loop.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

Super Slash posted:

This is actually why I dislike video chat, there's some freaky mental disconnect when seeing and talking to someone but they're not actually there for me to make eye contact with. Plus the whole ream of issues with lag time, microphone and background noise fuckery.

And now with laptop cameras being positioned near the hinge on the lid rather than at the edge means we get to see right up your nose in vivid detail.

Better trim those nose hairs, sport.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

bull3964 posted:

I have a better idea. Get them to take a picture outside of the conference room and deliver your part of the standup as if you were a reporter at the scene.

I like the thought of having someone taking a picture OF the meeting right before it starts.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Sepist posted:

I can't jump, I'm in the string quartet

New thread title right here, I reckon.

1000101
May 14, 2003

BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY FRUITCAKE!

Sepist posted:

Interesting. Since I am on the architect/engineering side of billable work, having an officer of a company as a billable resource is such a foreign concept to me. I guess if he's not working in the poo poo and mostly on the high level stuff it makes more sense.

He may be a practice manager for the company but not necessarily an officer of the company in the traditional sense. Probably measured on gross profit from security sales with some mix of utilization. We had a CIO for a while who wasn't on the executive management team. He was mostly there in an advisory role to help us get higher up in our accounts.

1000101 fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jul 13, 2017

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k

1000101 posted:

He may be a practice manager for the company but not necessarily an officer of the company in the traditional sense (probably measured on gross profit from security sales with some mix of utilization. We had a CIO for a while who wasn't on the executive management team. He was mostly there in an advisory role to help us get higher up in our accounts.

That was actually how it was explained to me yesterday. Nice insight!

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo

Agrikk posted:


Better trim braid and bead those nose hairs, sport.

It's the only thing I dislike about my new XPS13.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I got approached about a job doing mostly what I'm already doing, but for more money. I'll have to see what the benefits are like before I know if I'm even interested, but it's amazing being in a position where I'm interviewing the company as much as the opposite.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Yeah, the difference in "I need a job" and "Oh this'd be nice" in regards to searching for a job is amazing.

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe
I can only agree. It felt really good interviewing the company.
The following exchange does happen a lot with recruiters

recruiter: "so, how much do you make?"
me: "I'd rather not say, It's more important that the company and I are a good fit"
recruiter: "but how much do you make now? I need to know, to see if we can offer something for you:
me: "why don't you tell me what you have to offer?"
Recruiter: "that's not how this works, are you even looking for another job"
me: "Thank you for your call. i'm going to hang up. was nice talking to you"
It usually ends like that.


I did meet one awesome recruiter though. Who was upfront about the salary and guided me through the whole interview/hiring process

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Anybody have any trip reports regarding working at a University? I have a Skype interview lined up for what seems to be an excellent position.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

Vargatron posted:

Anybody have any trip reports regarding working at a University? I have a Skype interview lined up for what seems to be an excellent position.

Yes. In my case, everything is siloed, different departments hate talking to each other or sharing information, and budget is basically zero.

Sarern
Nov 4, 2008

:toot:
Won't you take me to
Bomertown?
Won't you take me to
BONERTOWN?

:toot:

Vargatron posted:

Anybody have any trip reports regarding working at a University? I have a Skype interview lined up for what seems to be an excellent position.

I've been to several University IT departments for security audits. Budgets seem to range from "completely inadequate" to "pretty good" depending on the University and how much they value IT. Same thing for staffing levels. What bigass said I've seen a lot of: siloed departments who get into pissing contests can be a big obstacle to your work.

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Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Vargatron posted:

Anybody have any trip reports regarding working at a University? I have a Skype interview lined up for what seems to be an excellent position.


Bigass Moth posted:

Yes. In my case, everything is siloed, different departments hate talking to each other or sharing information, and budget is basically zero.

On the other hand, at mine, everything is handled by one department of about 30 people with the department sub-divided in to teams of specialists, you're not expected to handle other teams' stuff, just make sure they have as much info as possible if you're handing off, and they have roadmapped expenditures for the next 5 years.

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