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Squalid posted:I was inspired to look into this subject again by this fantastic series on British decolonization called End of Empire. Anything similar for the French empire, whether in French or English? There was a similar documentary produced by France 5 that was pretty good (if a lot shorter and more basic): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVfKi8F0iRY lost in postation fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Nah, they can always use the poors for live bone marrow extraction and export. They've always got a few centimes hidden away in their benefits packages. Also blaming foreigners works.
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Jul 13, 2017 12:45
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I was reading this (http://catalyst-journal.com/vol1/no1/editorial-robert-brenner.html) and this part jumped out at me:quote:During the first half of 2016, the François Hollande government was unable to push through a new law to deregulate the French labor market in the face of a huge, militant mass movement bringing together allied contingents of workers, school kids, and urban middle-class youth, a movement that enjoyed the overwhelming support of the general public. But Hollande nonetheless forced its passage entirely undemocratically, essentially by at, using a provision of the constitution specifically enacted for just this sort of occasion What happened here exactly, something like using a terrorist attack to pass an unpopular (and defeated) anti-labour law? And how did the government get away with it? Because it feels like it's going to be the prototype for a lot of things to come in the next decade.
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Jul 13, 2017 13:52
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I'm not sure where you got the terrorist bit from, but our constitution contains an article that allows the government to gamble its continued existence for the chance of passing a bill without the assembly voting on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_49_of_the_French_Constitution#Commitment_of_responsibility_on_a_bill_.2849.3.29 It's there because de Gaulle was big on the executive doing whatever the gently caress it wants.
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Jul 13, 2017 14:14
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That's pretty messed up.
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lost in postation posted:I'm not sure where you got the terrorist bit from, but our constitution contains an article that allows the government to gamble its continued existence for the chance of passing a bill without the assembly voting on it: Ah I see, I thought it had something to do with the state of emergency
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R. Mute posted:That's pretty messed up. Welcome to France, a shining beacon of hope for freedom-loving people everywhere! Do not look at the man muttering "gently caress the poor" behind the curtain! Although honestly, I don't think Macron will need to bother using this anytime soon. The right is the only party that might realistically challenge any bill he pushes for, except they'd only say that he's not going far enough.
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Jul 13, 2017 14:37
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Governments in general have been using it way less than in the early 5th Republic, because we're no longer in a tripartite system (SFIO/PCF/UDR) and the governing parties achieve parliamentary majorities much more easily. It's still a trash law for garbage people, though.
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Okay, question for the american people: do each member of the Trump family get his own motorcade? Because last time i saw the president of the Usa move inside Paris it was under 40 vehicles including the french police bikers(a 38 vehicles motorcade) and this time it's slightly under 70 vehicles (68 to be precise). Did he get a few minibuses to move his ego with him?
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Jul 13, 2017 15:17
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Trump probably insisted on having a bigger motorcade than Obama.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:03
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The bigger the motorcade the bigger your penis, didn't you know that?
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Jul 13, 2017 17:31
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HookShot posted:The bigger the motorcade the bigger your penis, didn't you know that?
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Jul 13, 2017 17:50
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how very centrist of macron to let trump come turn paris into a clown show. please tell me he'll be out of here by saturday and i have a reasonable chance of using RER B without being crushed to death?
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Jul 13, 2017 19:49
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Trump is gonna leave tomorrow afternoon, I think. Macron will be going to Nice for a ceremony there. Speaking of Macron: https://twitter.com/BFMTV/status/885563500382343171
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Jul 13, 2017 20:01
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Did we just elect Joffrey Baratheon, could we get his grand dad or his dwarf uncle instead?
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Jul 13, 2017 20:15
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Pretty sure we elected Littlefinger.
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Jul 13, 2017 20:55
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You actually elected a real life person and not a fictional character.
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Jul 13, 2017 21:22
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I don't get it, can you explain that in Harry Potter terms?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:You actually elected a real life person and not a fictional character.
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cebrail posted:I don't get it, can you explain that in Harry Potter terms? It's like if ravenclaw merged with slytherin.
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Jul 13, 2017 23:54
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Toplowtech posted:But Game of Throne is just a "Les rois maudits" fanfic by a fat american fan. I found some episodes of the 1972 show on Youtube a while ago, really quite good despite basically being a televised play.
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Jul 14, 2017 00:36
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Today there's an anti-Trump and anti-Macron demonstration at Place de Clichy at 2 PM. Just sayin
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Jul 14, 2017 06:48
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https://twitter.com/NYMag/status/885585224872099841
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Jul 14, 2017 11:04
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How many of those six are over 45?
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Jul 14, 2017 11:49
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Has anyone bothered to ask Macron his opinion about de Gaulle? I have this feeling
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Jul 14, 2017 11:54
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My grandfather deserted during Algeria and still thinks it's a good idea, lol.
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Jul 14, 2017 11:59
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R. Mute posted:Has anyone bothered to ask Macron his opinion about de Gaulle? I have this feeling I think it's not so much an opinion as an earnest belief that he's CdG's reincarnation. The liberal press certainly seems to think so, at any rate: http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/politique/20170602.OBS0222/accord-de-paris-l-appel-du-1er-juin-macron-de-gaulle-meme-combat.html
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Jul 14, 2017 12:06
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i hope i'm safe being 26
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Jul 14, 2017 20:50
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In other news: six out of ten French people are over the age of 30.
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Speaking of French military stuff: http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/2017/07/13/01002-20170713ARTFIG00179-budget-defense-le-general-de-villiers-laisse-eclater-sa-colere.php The army chief of staff said "I'm not going to let them gently caress me like that" because of yet another spending cut. Because yes, in Macronland, a promise to increase defense spending to the holy 2% of GDP is translated by an immediate budget cut. Hey, when you look at the suggested plan to give 11 loving billions to the rich, you know that Macron is planning on meeting the 2% target by just shrinking the GDP until the military budget corresponds to 2% of it. IMO he should have saved some money by just not organizing the 14th July défilé, that would have sent a good message.
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TIL that our Chef d'État-Major des Armées is called Pierre Le Jolis de Villiers de Saintignon, because l'Ancien Régime never really ended for our gallant men in uniform ("hosed" as they may be).
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lost in postation posted:TIL that our Chef d'État-Major des Armées is called Pierre Le Jolis de Villiers de Saintignon, because l'Ancien Régime never really ended for our gallant men in uniform ("hosed" as they may be). It used to be way worse, just about the entire officer corps used to be pining for restauration any day now in the 50s. Also almost every french diplomat until maybe the 90s was from an ancien regime family.
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If proletarian families had the tradition of sending half their sons to Saint-Cyr on every generation, they'd have a bigger representation in the état-major.
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n00b question cause I know nothing of french politics, but is there any goon approved news/politics source in english? Using google translate on french articles is kinda frustrating, and in my own country nobody talks about it at all. I wanna know if Macron is gonna save the EU and make everybody happy. He's gonna do that right???
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Zombiepop posted:n00b question cause I know nothing of french politics, but is there any goon approved news/politics source in english? Using google translate on french articles is kinda frustrating, and in my own country nobody talks about it at all. I wanna know if Macron is gonna save the EU and make everybody happy. He's gonna do that right???
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Jul 15, 2017 18:19
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The Local is alright to keep up with recent events.
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Kassad posted:The Local is alright to keep up with recent events. Thanks, this seems pretty casual so that's good for starters.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:He's gonna save it in the sense that he'll destroy the only thing standing in the way of complete German dominance. I don't even know if That's good or bad.
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