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Bongo Bill: Jan 17, 2012

Sun and Moon use exorbitantly high-polygon models for all the pokemon. It also renders the trainers during battle. If you've got a double battle going on and the pokemon fighting in it are ones with complex designs, you'll notice some pretty severe framerate issues. This is presumably why they removed triple and rotation battles. Ultimately, though, it's fine.

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Avalerion: Oct 19, 2012

The models were the same ones they used in X/Y I think, having the trainer appear in battle probably doesn't help things though. The theory I hear is that they basically tried to future proof them with little regard for the current gen.

Avalerion fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jul 11, 2017

# ? Jul 11, 2017 22:35

oddium: Feb 21, 2006; end of the 4.5 tatami age

according to wokegamers.net the average in battle frame rate is 10, which is objectively worse than that very first video of a horse galloping

# ? Jul 11, 2017 23:46

Alpha Phoenix: Feb 26, 2007; That is a peckin' lot of bird...

Bongo Bill posted:

Sun and Moon use exorbitantly high-polygon models for all the pokemon. It also renders the trainers during battle. If you've got a double battle going on and the pokemon fighting in it are ones with complex designs, you'll notice some pretty severe framerate issues. This is presumably why they removed triple and rotation battles. Ultimately, though, it's fine.

This is also why no 3d, and lag on 2ds. It used the extra 3d processing power to push the limits of the system instead.

# ? Jul 12, 2017 00:04

funmanguy: Apr 20, 2006; What time is it?

I feel silly for not liking black and white for being different from MY CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES. I picked up heart gold and Black 2, that will keep me occupied until I get sun or moon. I'm thinking sun.

# ? Jul 12, 2017 03:50

lezard_valeth: Mar 14, 2016

Blooming Brilliant posted:

Unrelated but X/Y also had a mandatory poo poo desert section, which is the least fun I've ever had in a Pokemon game.

I really don't remember this part. When was it?

This seriously reinforces XY as the blandest games because I played it twice and can't even remember the Gym types. I know the first is Bug, the last is Ice, the middle town is Electric and there was a Fairy type leader with a coold design.

Personally I really liked ORAS expanded storyline, but that was probably because I played AS which has the best villain team, whereas OR has some nerds.

Plus Secret Bases. If a Pokemon game has secret bases, it's a good Pokemon game by definition.

But overall I agree SuMo has the better story out of them all despite holding you like a clingy girlfriend for the first 2 hours.

The rest of the game is very enjoyable (with the exception of Master Rank Battle Royal in which the AI plain cheats :mad:

) but most important is this

# ? Jul 12, 2017 03:59

Big Bad Beetleborg: Apr 8, 2007; Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

The desert was the poo poo with the dust-storm and the power plant or w/e, and was story gated (along with half of the city) until you'd done the Coumarine gym.

Also, bring back contests imo

# ? Jul 12, 2017 04:04

lezard_valeth: Mar 14, 2016

Big Bad Beetleborg posted:

The desert was the poo poo with the dust-storm and the power plant or w/e, and was story gated (along with half of the city) until you'd done the Coumarine gym.

Ok, I remember that you chased Team Flare there and also there being like 4 different power plants but you only being able to access one of them and nothing ever came out of the other 3.

But I don't remember anything particularly bad or annoying happening in that section. Was it a desert maze section?

edit: Wait, was this the section with a huge encounter rate if you stepped outside of the path and wind that pushed you outside of the path? If so, then yeah, now I remember this being annoying and was happy to have repressed that memory, so thank you SA :mad:

lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jul 12, 2017

# ? Jul 12, 2017 04:09

funmanguy: Apr 20, 2006; What time is it?

lezard_valeth posted:

I really don't remember this part. When was it?

This seriously reinforces XY as the blandest games because I played it twice and can't even remember the Gym types. I know the first is Bug, the last is Ice, the middle town is Electric and there was a Fairy type leader with a coold design.

Personally I really liked ORAS expanded storyline, but that was probably because I played AS which has the best villain team, whereas OR has some nerds.

Plus Secret Bases. If a Pokemon game has secret bases, it's a good Pokemon game by definition.

But overall I agree SuMo has the better story out of them all despite holding you like a clingy girlfriend for the first 2 hours.

The rest of the game is very enjoyable (with the exception of Master Rank Battle Royal in which the AI plain cheats ) but most important is this

Not gonna lie, the owl with a bow tie is what made me want to play again.

# ? Jul 12, 2017 05:11

OgreNoah: Nov 18, 2003

There were occasional frame rate issues with ORAS triples in the Battle Maison or whatever, with or without 3D.

I seriously miss triple battles.

# ? Jul 12, 2017 06:54

lezard_valeth: Mar 14, 2016

OgreNoah posted:

There were occasional frame rate issues with ORAS triples in the Battle Maison or whatever, with or without 3D.

I seriously miss triple battles.

I had a relatively good Trick Room team in ORAS of Dusclops, Klefki, Conkeldurr, Mega Slowbro, Talonflame and Reuniclus. With so many good but slow af pokes added this generation (and Talonflame's nerf) I was really looking forward to Triple Battles only to find them gone.

# ? Jul 12, 2017 09:52

Golden Goat: Aug 2, 2012

All the 3DS Pokemon games run like hot garbage the moment you introduce more then one pokemon on screen.

SuMo's the worst for it cause it's a major feature and they decided that naw they don't need to fix that.

# ? Jul 12, 2017 11:00

Ruggington: Apr 21, 2012

holding hands is cool as hell and makes your next attack 50% stronger

# ? Jul 12, 2017 11:45

McDragon: Sep 11, 2007

the true power of totem pokemon is that they tank the framerate

# ? Jul 12, 2017 12:00

Golden Goat: Aug 2, 2012

Literally the only reason I wanted Pokemon Switch was so it could have triple & rotation battles without making GBS threads itself trying to render these super detailed pokemon.

# ? Jul 12, 2017 12:08

lezard_valeth: Mar 14, 2016

Ruggington posted:

holding hands is cool as hell and makes your next attack 50% stronger

You kid, but that Alomomola + Totem Wishiwashi in the rain can setup some annoying combos if you use an ingame team. If Wishiwashi didn't have trash tier speed it would be a wake up boss fight at that point in the game.

As it is, the hardest Totem ironically is probably Gumshoos due to your limited stats and moves at that point (whereas Raticate sports a 4x weakness to fighting and you can get a Machop right outside the Trial site).

Lurantis sets up it's own demise with Sunny day, Salazzle has a crippling ground weakness paired with low defense stats (and is fought at a level range in which a Mudbray probably knows both Bulldoze and High Horsepower), Vikavolt is slow and it's adds are non threatening, Mimikyu and it's adds get walled by Komala, and Kommo gets walled and creamed by Granbull you can catch in any of the previous routes.

# ? Jul 12, 2017 12:13

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

USUM Special Edition box revealed:

# ? Jul 12, 2017 12:14

Scholtz: Aug 24, 2007; Zorchin' some Flemoids

Neat! I'm excited to see what the cases for the Switch version look like. Do you think they'll have different box art?

# ? Jul 12, 2017 12:54

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

Yeah here is the Switch version box art:

# ? Jul 12, 2017 13:07

Zore: Sep 21, 2010; willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d�etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Man this poo poo is reminding me of Kyurem all over again.

# ? Jul 12, 2017 15:28

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

I like the theory that the USUM box legends aren't Solgaleo and Lunala with Necrozma armor, but just Necrozma who's only projecting holograms of Solgaleo and Lunala. Fits its prism light refraction theme perfectly.

# ? Jul 12, 2017 15:36

oddium: Feb 21, 2006; end of the 4.5 tatami age

everyone knows solgaleleo is stylish and baller. what this necrozma forme dares to ask is, "What if it actually sucked"

# ? Jul 12, 2017 15:52

Dynastesaurus: Oct 22, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvDtFNTzNSk
Pokemon is kinda creepy.

# ? Jul 12, 2017 17:05

Waffles Inc.: Jan 20, 2005

Dynastesaurus posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvDtFNTzNSk
Pokemon is kinda creepy.

what the hell

# ? Jul 12, 2017 17:18

lezard_valeth: Mar 14, 2016

oddium posted:

everyone knows solgaleleo is stylish and baller. what this necrozma forme dares to ask is, "What if it actually sucked"

Indeed. At first my reaction was "this looks ugly, maybe if it didn't have those weird arms sticking out as appendixes" but then upon seeing an edit of what it would look like without them it still was just 2edgy4u.

No way around it, the Necrozma fusions look bad so they better have super broken stats and abilities otherwise I'm sticking Necrozma on opposite end boxes from my good friend Nebby

# ? Jul 12, 2017 22:23

Electric Phantasm: Apr 7, 2011; YOSPOS

Dynastesaurus posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvDtFNTzNSk
Pokemon is kinda creepy.

Anyone know what the Unown spell out?

# ? Jul 12, 2017 23:27

Scholtz: Aug 24, 2007; Zorchin' some Flemoids

Electric Phantasm posted:

Anyone know what the Unown spell out?

"Nani ka ga okoru?"

"Something will happen?"

# ? Jul 12, 2017 23:35

lezard_valeth: Mar 14, 2016

Question: Is there a legit way I can get a Totodile with it's HA and an apricorn ball/beast ball?

You can capture Totodile through Island Scan but it doesn't have it's HA, is there a way I can set up a breeding chain to get both?

edit: vvvv Sweet, thanks! Now I can get my friend Totodile inside a Friend Ball.

lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jul 13, 2017

# ? Jul 12, 2017 23:54

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

lezard_valeth posted:

Question: Is there a legit way I can get a Totodile with it's HA and an apricorn ball/beast ball?

You can capture Totodile through Island Scan but it doesn't have it's HA, is there a way I can set up a breeding chain to get both?

I think that if both parents are the same species then there's a 50/50 of either passing down their pokeball.

# ? Jul 13, 2017 00:01

Dienes: Nov 4, 2009; dee
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Improbable Lobster posted:

I think that if both parents are the same species then there's a 50/50 of either passing down their pokeball.

Yup. Put a totodile in the right ball with a totodile with the HA and you can get what you want.

# ? Jul 13, 2017 00:04

AlternateNu: May 5, 2005; ドーナツダメ！

Bongo Bill posted:

Sun and Moon use exorbitantly high-polygon models for all the pokemon. It also renders the trainers during battle. If you've got a double battle going on and the pokemon fighting in it are ones with complex designs, you'll notice some pretty severe framerate issues. This is presumably why they removed triple and rotation battles. Ultimately, though, it's fine.

Ever tried to pet a giant pokemon in refresh? Hooo boy. You wanna see framerate issues? I've had the "super happy heart popping" emote be completely out of sync with the sound effects for it when triggering it off a Reshiram or Rayquaza.

# ? Jul 13, 2017 01:20

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

The shiny Tapu Koko event is now live on mystery gift in EU/UK.

# ? Jul 13, 2017 18:02

hangedman1984: Jul 25, 2012

less laughter posted:

The shiny Tapu Koko event is now live on mystery gift in EU/UK.

Uh, not fair! I want a black thunder chicken!!

# ? Jul 13, 2017 20:48

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

then you could've nicknamed it Black Bolt

# ? Jul 13, 2017 20:51

ZenMasterBullshit: Nov 2, 2011; Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
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less laughter posted:

then you could've nicknamed it Black Bolt

Black Bawk

# ? Jul 14, 2017 00:00

Nth Doctor: Sep 7, 2010; Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!

N+1th Doctor caught Pokerus before leaving Haoli City. All but one of her Pokemon on her team are already over it.
Ever try explaining that mechanic to a 6yo with ADHD?

"okay, honey, take this one out of the box. Go battle. Then PUT IT RIGHT BACK IN THE BOX"

# ? Jul 14, 2017 00:39

Zoran: Aug 19, 2008; I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Nth Doctor posted:

N+1th Doctor caught Pokerus before leaving Haoli City. All but one of her Pokemon on her team are already over it.
Ever try explaining that mechanic to a 6yo with ADHD?

"okay, honey, take this one out of the box. Go battle. Then PUT IT RIGHT BACK IN THE BOX"

I think the real dilemma here is whether she should be "N-plus-oneth" or "N-plus-first."

# ? Jul 14, 2017 00:58

Alxprit: Feb 7, 2015; <click> <click> What is it with this dancing?! Bouncing around like fools... I would have thought my own kind at least would understand the seriousness of our Adventurer's Guild!