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Hail Grand Admiral Prawn.
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Jul 11, 2017 07:28
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Quick question. Is Chewbacca owing a life-debt to Han canon anymore? I was honestly never super comfortable with the idea in the old EU since it honestly came across as a more polite version of slavery.
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Jul 14, 2017 04:46
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Canemacar posted:Quick question. Is Chewbacca owing a life-debt to Han canon anymore? I was honestly never super comfortable with the idea in the old EU since it honestly came across as a more polite version of slavery. When Han Met Chewie. Coming Winter 2018.
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Jul 14, 2017 05:12
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Canemacar posted:Quick question. Is Chewbacca owing a life-debt to Han canon anymore? I was honestly never super comfortable with the idea in the old EU since it honestly came across as a more polite version of slavery. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Life_debt Looks like it was tucked into one of the new reference books so yeah. But now the biggest example in canon is Jar Jar
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Jul 14, 2017 05:13
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Canemacar posted:Quick question. Is Chewbacca owing a life-debt to Han canon anymore? I was honestly never super comfortable with the idea in the old EU since it honestly came across as a more polite version of slavery. I thought they were mates 
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Jul 14, 2017 05:26
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Canemacar posted:Quick question. Is Chewbacca owing a life-debt to Han canon anymore? I was honestly never super comfortable with the idea in the old EU since it honestly came across as a more polite version of slavery. Hmm, I wonder if the concept of a Life Debt is still canon. If only they would make a reference to it...  Sorry, that was a bit more dickish than I meant it to be, but I couldn't resist.
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Jul 14, 2017 13:58
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Ingmar terdman posted:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Life_debt It's also a focus of the second Aftermath book, where Han basically tells Chewie to stop being a deadbeat dad and go back to live on his planet. Catberry posted:I thought they were mates In some really early interviews and transcribed conversations with Lucasfilm people from the early years, Lucas seemed to want to have Han and Chewie be friends because Han was married to another Wookiee and so they were presumably brothers-in-law, which is also why at first Lucas did not want to have Han and Leia end up together, because in his mind Han was already married to a Wookiee.
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Jul 14, 2017 13:59
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Chairman Capone posted:In some really early interviews and transcribed conversations with Lucasfilm people from the early years, Lucas seemed to want to have Han and Chewie be friends because Han was married to another Wookiee and so they were presumably brothers-in-law, which is also why at first Lucas did not want to have Han and Leia end up together, because in his mind Han was already married to a Wookiee. Oh my. If you (or anyone) has links to this, whether video or just written down, I would love to see it. Lucas had some really weird ideas back then. Like Marion and Indy's original age difference when writing Raiders.
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Jul 14, 2017 14:08
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thrawn527 posted:Oh my. I know for sure it was discussed in an issue of Insider a few years ago, where they had a two-part reprint of the conversation between Lucas, Alan Dean Foster, and a few others planning out Splinter of the Mind's Eye. Looking it up now, the articles were in Insider 145 and 146. There were a lot of other weird ideas in there also, like possibly having Leia and Chewie wind up together, Luke becoming the Rebellion's version of 007 and going on a massive killing spree after the Empire kills Leia, and Grand Moff Tarkin surviving the Death Star to become the new main villain instead of Vader.
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Jul 14, 2017 14:23
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Chairman Capone posted:In some really early interviews and transcribed conversations with Lucasfilm people from the early years, Lucas seemed to want to have Han and Chewie be friends because Han was married to another Wookiee and so they were presumably brothers-in-law, which is also why at first Lucas did not want to have Han and Leia end up together, because in his mind Han was already married to a Wookiee. I wonder if this was something he came up with before or after he decided Han would no longer be the Creature from the Black Lagoon.
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Jul 14, 2017 14:47
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Chairman Capone posted:Grand Moff Tarkin surviving the Death Star to become the new main villain instead of Vader. I think I remember there being an (obviously non-canon) toy or toy line based around this idea.
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Jul 14, 2017 14:57
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HannibalBarca posted:I think I remember there being an (obviously non-canon) toy or toy line based around this idea. Forgot about this. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Epic_Continues
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Jul 14, 2017 15:06
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Ingmar terdman posted:Forgot about this. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Epic_Continues Mondo Beefhead Tribesmen deserves to be a canon name
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Jul 14, 2017 15:25
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I was rewatching Rogue One, and it occurred to me, why didn't they use the starfighters against the AT-ATs/ AT-STs on Hoth? I mean, yeah, it might just be Rogue One creating a plot hole in ESB. Or was there ever an EU explanation?
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Jul 14, 2017 18:31
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tribbledirigible posted:I was rewatching Rogue One, and it occurred to me, why didn't they use the starfighters against the AT-ATs/ AT-STs on Hoth? I mean, yeah, it might just be Rogue One creating a plot hole in ESB. I think they were mostly busy guarding the transports. But then Luke is a perfect example of someone who was in a Snowspeeder, then went to his perfectly good just sitting there X-Wing, so I really don't know.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:33
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tribbledirigible posted:I was rewatching Rogue One, and it occurred to me, why didn't they use the starfighters against the AT-ATs/ AT-STs on Hoth? I mean, yeah, it might just be Rogue One creating a plot hole in ESB. How did the Empire get their AT-ATs through the shield when we see the Scariff shield own several starfighters? Just go with it.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:38
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Thwomp posted:How did the Empire get their AT-ATs through the shield when we see the Scariff shield own several starfighters? Just go with it. I guess it's established in the films that you can simply walk through shields. Unless they're ray shields, which block humans and lasers but not torpedoes.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:41
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Yeah, when Leia's briefing the pilots, she says that all they can spare to escort the transports off Hoth are two X-wings each; the snowspeeders were delaying the AT-ATs because they needed the X-wings for the evacuation.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:45
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Wheat Loaf posted:Yeah, when Leia's briefing the pilots, she says that all they can spare to escort the transports off Hoth are two X-wings each; the snowspeeders were delaying the AT-ATs because they needed the X-wings for the evacuation. Except Luke, who could have flown his X-Wing either against the AT-AT's, or to protect transports, and instead was in a Snowspeeder.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:48
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Zoran posted:I guess it's established in the films that you can simply walk through shields. Unless they're ray shields, which block humans and lasers but not torpedoes. God, sometimes I hate Star Wars.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:52
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I always thought it was a major sci-fi thing that shields stop energy weapons and fast moving projectiles/objects but not other things. Though stuff can't pass through those hangar bay shields so what do I know.
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Jul 14, 2017 19:19
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thrawn527 posted:Except Luke, who could have flown his X-Wing either against the AT-AT's, or to protect transports, and instead was in a Snowspeeder. Eh, I write it off as the x-wings barely being flyable in the extreme weather conditions on Hoth. They're designed for space combat, not flying in-atmosphere in arctic conditions with risks of blizzards. The snowspeeders are designed or modified for the weather on Hoth, so they're what the Rebels flew. Catberry posted:I always thought it was a major sci-fi thing that shields stop energy weapons and fast moving projectiles/objects but not other things. That's specifically a Dune thing to explain why everyone fights with swords and darts and whatnot instead of guns.
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Jul 14, 2017 19:19
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Cythereal posted:That's specifically a Dune thing to explain why everyone fights with swords and darts and whatnot instead of guns. And warhammer 40k (ship shields stop energy weapons but not torpedoes, personal shields stop bullets but not punches/swords) There was another example I had in mind that I forgot
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Jul 14, 2017 19:38
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Catberry posted:And warhammer 40k (ship shields stop energy weapons but not torpedoes, personal shields stop bullets but not punches/swords) I think Stargate has something like this. Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaK6ZlicwZE
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Jul 14, 2017 19:42
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The shield turns the fast blow, admits the slow kindjal
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Jul 14, 2017 19:43
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Pops Mgee posted:I think Stargate has something like this. Why did they launch blue gunk spheres from catapults when all it did was take out one droid? A large rock would have done in 4 or 5 easy. The key to dune shield fighting is to let someone else fight for you and give them a las gun. I have actually read All of the Dune books and the prequels and the machine war books. Dune is pretty hosed up and the book barn could use a Dune thread. Catberry fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Jul 14, 2017 |
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Jul 14, 2017 19:47
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Zoran posted:I guess it's established in the films that you can simply walk through shields. Unless they're ray shields, which block humans and lasers but not torpedoes. Pretty sure "you can walk through shields" is the in-universe explanation of why they use walkers instead of floating tanks in general to begin with, considering the general logical problems with mecha-style weapons as a rule. Though the shorter Clone Wars walkers make more sense than AT-ATs, shorter legs and more of them is far more stable while still keeping any advantages a walker has.
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Jul 14, 2017 20:02
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^^^^^^^ Because they are movies.
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Jul 15, 2017 09:28
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Anyone here ever read Suicide by Star Wars Apocrypha? This guy is going on the daunting task of looking over the old EU in as much detail as he possibly can. He's not very nice about it. If you ever wanted to know just how bad the Revan book got, for example. Here's the introduction and Here's the archive if you want to peruse. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jul 16, 2017 |
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Jul 16, 2017 20:03
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Looks like a bunch of ripping into a lot of poo poo I don't want to know about, but too slowly for my tastes...
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Jul 16, 2017 21:53
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But I've got archives and the lets read thread is funnier.
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Jul 16, 2017 22:47
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SeanBeansShako posted:But I've got archives and the lets read thread is funnier. Link?
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Jul 16, 2017 23:33
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RC Cola posted:Link? It's in the OP here if you want to find it later, but here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3296954&perpage=40 A lot of images don't load anymore, because they were using old SA imagehost favorite Waffleimages, but the text and links should still all work.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:55
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I'm pretty sure there was a difference between the types of shields used on Scariff and Hoth. The Rebellion just had a planetary shield that covered the base, allowing for the Empire to land troopers and walkers. Scariff employed a system of shield generators that covered the entire planet, much like Coruscant.
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Jul 17, 2017 20:34
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pubic works project posted:I'm pretty sure there was a difference between the types of shields used on Scariff and Hoth. The Rebellion just had a planetary shield that covered the base, allowing for the Empire to land troopers and walkers. Scariff employed a system of shield generators that covered the entire planet, much like Coruscant. Pfft, they should have just had another crack commando team raid Krennic's quarters to retrieve the shield combination 1....2....3....4........5.
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Jul 18, 2017 01:11
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That's the same combo Bail Organa has on his luggage!
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Jul 18, 2017 01:50
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I finally got around to reading Empire's End. Man...that is one bad book. Mostly. It's especially frustrating, because there are some great characters and moments. A Super Star Destroyer with destroyed engines being lassoed by a tracker beam and dragged to the planet by a dying Starhawk was loving metal. But they're nestled into terrible prose and pointless tangents. I still don't know what the hell is going on with the Sith acolytes? Maybe they eventually become the Knights of Ren or something. And that Interlude with the pilgrims returning kyber crystals was especially pointess. My biggest complain is probably that Rax's plan (well, Palpatine's) had this massive build up and still doesn't really make any sense. So the Emperor figured any Empire that failed him didn't deserve to survive. Fine, he was a fascist megalomaniac, whatever. It's a dumb way to kill off the Empire, but I don't really care. Why set up this super complicated ancient computer system to map the Unknown Regions to find your way through them to...something else? Just as a good hiding place? It's a bigass galaxy, I'm sure there's plenty of places to hide. The Emperor wanted to map it to find some dark energy from beyond it? But Rax just wants to go there to build up a new Empire (which I know becomes the First Order because they make that SUPER obvious)? Also, the place that has this super complicated ancient computer? Uh, it was also used to drill a hole into the planet so Rax could blow up Jakku. Which I knew was obviously not going to happen. It felt like a smashing together of half formed thoughts. Actually, that kind of describes the whole Aftermath series. Sinjir is awesome, though. And most things involving Mister Bones. I loved his POV section where he rebuilds himself. So confusing. So frustrating.
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Jul 18, 2017 16:47
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cptn_dr posted:That's the same combo Bail Organa has on his luggage! His name is actually Bail? I just do audiobooks so I assumed it was spelled Bhaele or something like that.
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Jul 18, 2017 16:55
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Catberry posted:His name is actually Bail? Yup. Bail is a somewhat common name in the Star Wars universe. Bail Antilles is name dropped in Episode I as another candidate for Chancellor.
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