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Majorian posted:No one is going to be the guy or gal. Everyone hates this disaster of a bill, and multiple Republican senators are going to kill it. Someone will have to be the one who pushes it over the edge, unless they issue a joint statement that does it.
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Oh hey am I too late to criticize a woman for her looks instead of her incredibly awful everything else?
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Jul 14, 2017 17:49
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Chilichimp posted:I'm not unconvinced the person drawing her didn't use a picture of Dafoe as a guide, honestly. Did they? Where is this sketch from? Now I feel stupid. I can't tell if you guys are making fun of me for missing something.  ^^^^^^^ We're not criticizing a woman, but a tremendously lovely sketch of one.
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Jul 14, 2017 17:49
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Teddybear posted:Someone will have to be the one who pushes it over the edge, unless they issue a joint statement that does it. My money's on Heller saying no. His job's in danger either way, either through primaries or through general election, but he wants to be governor someday. He won't stand a chance if he votes yes on this.
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Jul 14, 2017 17:51
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Antti posted:No single Republican has the bravery to be the guy or gal who stopped Obamacare repeal. That's the dynamic that played out in the House and it's the dynamic that will play out in the Senate. Combine that with Josh Marshall's Iron Law of Republican Politics ("The moderates always cave") and that's how the Freedom Caucus gets to decide who gets healthcare. Yeah, but liberal assassins were lighting up congressional softball fields when the house betrayed the American people. I'm not saying they won't totally vote for some loving atrocious repeal/replace; I'm saying the calculus is now different.
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Jul 14, 2017 17:52
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Jul 14, 2017 17:52
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How is this not the biggest news in this story as of yet? "Akhmetshin said he does not know if Veselnitskaya’s documents were provided by the Russian government. He said he thinks she left the materials with the Trump associates. It was unclear if she handed the documents to anyone in the room or simply left them behind, he said."
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Jul 14, 2017 17:53
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Jaxyon posted:Oh hey am I too late to criticize a woman for her looks instead of her incredibly awful everything else? No, go ahead. I'll help. She's ugly.
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Jul 14, 2017 17:54
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Jaxyon posted:Oh hey am I too late to criticize a woman for her looks instead of her incredibly awful everything else? Look at that loving sketch, bro. The drawing scratch makes it look like she's got bugs crawling out of her mouth and eyes. Say what you will about Kelly Anne, she isn't Dafoe/Donovan from Indiana Jones 3 after he drank from the wrong grail.
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TARDISman posted:New Wolfenstein concept art looks great.  edit: woops leeching Faustian Bargain fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jul 14, 2017 |
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Jul 14, 2017 17:56
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Fitzy Fitz posted:No, go ahead. I'll help. She's ugly. But enough about her soul...
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Jul 14, 2017 17:57
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Sandeep posted:How is this not the biggest news in this story as of yet? Here's the excerpt for this. https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/885905739662884865 quote:During the meeting, Akhmetshin said Veselnitskaya brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democratic National Committee. Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to the Trump associates and suggested that making the information public could help the Trump campaign, he said.
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Phoix posted:https://twitter.com/nateschenkkan/status/885901125119074305 So having read between the lines a bit in terms of the statements released by that spy I would contend that Russia is now deliberately trying to stoke this controversy into a full on crises. The statements from that spy make the meeting very damning in the eyes of anyone who isn't a high-compaction Narrativist- but there is also blatant signaling to the Outer narratives being parroted by the Putin-bots on The_Donald. (I suspect that something like as much as 65% of traffic at The_Donald is Russian at this point based on my own observations.) Associated Press posted:
I think the Russian strategy is "testing the waters" right now to see if they can get a government-crippling crises to emerge out of this situation. From the Russian perspective either they gain literal full loving control of the United States federal government from this, or they completely hobble our government for potentially years while this gets sorted out. Win-Win from their perspective. I suspect then that we may see a few more Russian plays aimed at providing further material to incite both sides. (deluded Trump supporters vs. literally everyone else)
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Jul 14, 2017 18:05
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Jaxyon posted:Oh hey am I too late to criticize a woman for her looks instead of her incredibly awful everything else? I think Conway has long since abandoned any right to a defense from a feminist angle.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:07
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Majorian posted:No one is going to be the guy or gal. Everyone hates this disaster of a bill, and multiple Republican senators are going to kill it. You wanna bet on this, or do you just feel like peddling more bullshit false hope?
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Jul 14, 2017 18:07
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Phoix posted:https://twitter.com/nateschenkkan/status/885901125119074305 Meanwhile, in London: Aide (messaging): Sir, they've already revealed the Guccifer connection! What should we do? Assange: Release the Vince Foster letter Aide: But it isn't ready yet! The handwriting and grammar don't match well yet. It looks sloppy. Assange: Do it. We are have no choice. Aide: We have some perfectly good cattle futures stuff. We haven't even touched Whitewater. Assange: The media will shrug that off quickly. Tweet the letter. Wikileaks tweeted: New letter from Vince Foster implicates Hillary. Contradicts his death as suicide.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:08
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Majorian posted:I think Conway has long since abandoned any right to a defense from a feminist angle. She's kinda asking for it, with her behavior, you'd say?
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Jul 14, 2017 18:09
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farraday posted:Here's the excerpt for this. quote:Publicist Rob Goldstone, who brokered the meeting via email with Trump Jr., has told the AP that he also participated in the meeting. There goes our earlier pedantry about whether Goldstone was in the room.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:09
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Majorian posted:I think Conway has long since abandoned any right to a defense from a feminist angle. This isn't a very "woke" thing to say, my man.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:09
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WampaLord posted:This isn't a very "woke" thing to say, my man. Um I think you'll find that they have said the phrase of power "I am a feminist" which prevents them ever doing anything unconsciously sexist ever again.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:11
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WampaLord posted:This isn't a very "woke" thing to say, my man. I think Kellyanne Conway is a not attractive person and I believe that her being a terrible human being means that I don't really care if someone points that out. I think that Donald Trump is a not attractive person and I believe that his being a terrible human being means that I don't really care if someone points that out.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:12
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Jaxyon posted:Um I think you'll find that they have said the phrase of power "I am a feminist" which prevents them ever doing anything unconsciously sexist ever again. Someone call the MRA's, because some people made fun of this courtroom sketch of Tom Brady 
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lol are you loving kidding me goldstone was there too? was JFK and jimmy hoffa there too? exhumed corpse of hitler? what the gently caress
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From my point of view its inevitable that the bill goes through and Trump signs it, and the democrats need to be prepared to nail them to the wall on it in 2018.
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Jul 14, 2017 18:16
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Hey sexist behavior is OK if the target is really a bad person, because it's not about your actions at all!
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Jul 14, 2017 18:16
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Jul 14, 2017 18:17
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So, the Trump campaign hosted a meeting with Russian agents for the express purpose of collecting damaging intel on Clinton/the DNC, and at that meeting accepted stolen documents apparently. How close are we getting to this mattering? I want to believe, but I've been burned before.
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Jaxyon posted:Hey sexist behavior is OK if the target is really a bad person, because it's not about your actions at all! Are you saying that it's sexist to call someone ugly or were you responding to something with more charged language?
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Office Pig posted:You wanna bet on this, or do you just feel like peddling more bullshit false hope? I wouldn't GOP is desperate for a 'win' of some kind, even with the poo poo that this is, it would be a 'win'. It's really fuckin' hard to say they won't do it just to get that win.
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JailTrump posted:Why are all these loving idiots talking to the press so god damned much? I assume they're just trying to shift the discourse to "well we only did this illegal thing because the DNC did something illegal".
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LaserShark posted:So, the Trump campaign hosted a meeting with Russian agents for the express purpose of collecting damaging intel on Clinton/the DNC, and at that meeting accepted stolen documents apparently. How close are we getting to this mattering? I want to believe, but I've been burned before. only going to matter once someone decides to prosecute unfortunately. and that'd be the doj or congress via impeachment which, uh... good news is that it's apparently ok to openly commit felonies if you're rich more than ever
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skylined! posted:lol are you loving kidding me goldstone was there too? All we need is for Jr. to claim he left early to go pick up two prostitutes so his dad can perform "two girls, one Trump" and we've crossed off the most hosed up bingo card in the universe.
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JailTrump posted:Why are all these loving idiots talking to the press so god damned much? The Russians involved are actual spies, and they're talking to the media to fuel the fire.
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Phoix posted:I assume they're just trying to shift the discourse to "well we only did this illegal thing because the DNC did something illegal". JailTrump posted:Why are all these loving idiots talking to the press so god damned much? welp three of the people talking are russian so I'm guessing maximum chaos and/or get themselves in the media before putin offs them
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No Butt Stuff posted:Are you saying that it's sexist to call someone ugly or were you responding to something with more charged language? I'm saying frequently talking about a woman's looks over and over every time she appears is sexist behavior, and it doesn't much matter if you think you're woke, or she's a really bad person, or if you also sometimes do it to men.
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skylined! posted:lol are you loving kidding me goldstone was there too? It is entirely possible. http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/14/politics/donald-trump-jr-meeting/index.html quote:It is still not clear how many people attended the meeting. So far acknowledged in attendance: Trump Jr., Kushner, Manafort, Veselnitskaya, Akhmetshin and publicist Rob Goldstone, who helped set up the meeting. The source familiar with the circumstances said there were other people in the room as well, but could not provide the names.
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