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I have liked Batman Forever my entire life. Very camp Batman flick, but genuinely enjoyable. Even liked Carey's Riddler. It's not a perfect fit, but I definitely enjoyed him more than Two-Face.
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Two-Face would have been bad if it was anyone else, but seeing Tommy Lee Jones show more action and emotion than he ever has is worth it
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Jul 14, 2017 18:51
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Literally the only thing I dislike about Batman and Robin is the party where he clearly reverses the footage to pad a scene. It's just so sloppy. I loving love everything else about it. Well ok Bane was pretty unnecessary and poorly handled. But everything else was a joy to watch!
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Jul 14, 2017 18:55
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IUG posted:At one point during the first Avengers you see what the Chitari are doing to civilians. They're just rounding them up, like they're trying to capture them. That's my no-prize answer. One dude threw a live grenade at a group of civilians and would've been blown up had it not been by Cap Also I really doubt every single building and vehicle that was being flattened by the space whales crashing around or demolished by random explosions was empty
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Jul 14, 2017 18:55
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I like a low number because it implies the super heroes' presence made a difference (unlike in the DCCU) but anything under a hundred is insulting our intelegence (like Marvel comics when Hulk levels Vegas but "has never killed anyone")
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Jul 14, 2017 19:37
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BiggerBoat posted:Watching that doc, it seems pretty obvious too that Keaton was the best Batman too. I have mixed feelings about Batman 89 and really love the Nolan trilogy but it's weird that Bale, in spite of being in the best Batman movies, was probably the shittiest Batman of the lot besides Clooney (which really wasn't his fault). Bale is the one I can most imagine never thinking of himself as "Bruce Wayne". Keaton particularly makes Bruce Wayne feel like a separate character from Batman; Bale's Bruce comes off most as "the guy who Batman sometimes pretends to be".
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Jul 14, 2017 19:41
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I really loved Clooney, he was really channeling Adam West combined with his own natural charm. He was the opposite "Bruce Wayne Playboy is the real person, not an act, and he also likes being Batman". It was a lot of fun
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Wheat Loaf posted:Bale is the one I can most imagine never thinking of himself as "Bruce Wayne". Keaton particularly makes Bruce Wayne feel like a separate character from Batman; Bale's Bruce comes off most as "the guy who Batman sometimes pretends to be". I feel the exact opposite. Bale is a great Bruce but he never looks like he's comfortable being Batman. Keaton comes off as a lunatic with a death wish with almost no barrier between Bruce and Batman. Think about the "you wanna get nuts?" scene or when the Joker shoots up the press conference and Bruce just walks right up to him amid a hail of gunfire.
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purple death ray posted:And Jim Carrey is loving unbearable in Forever. I can see why he might be disliked but I thought his performance was good. I'm sort of on the fence when it comes to Carey in general, and at the time really disliked him, but I think his Riddler was one of the better parts of the film for the most part. Al Borland Corp. posted:Literally the only thing I dislike about Batman and Robin is the party where he clearly reverses the footage to pad a scene. It's just so sloppy. I loving love everything else about it. B&R is one of those "so bad it's good" MST type movies so I get a kick out of it and watching it with my 6 year old is even funnier because he takes it so seriously. He loves Batman 66 too, recognizes it as comedy and pisses his pants laughing at the shark attack. Cracked me up in the Batman doc though to hear Schumacher say that one of the saving graces of B&R was Uma Thurman "delivering a great performance" because my god she was terrible.
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Jul 14, 2017 19:50
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Uma and Arnold are the best parts of the whole movie, you kidding?
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My favorite part is Freeze in his lair in his robe and slippers rocking out in his chair watching a Christmas special while all his henchmen are just freezing their asses off.
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Jul 14, 2017 20:04
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B&R is one of the movies I was so excited for when I was little but I don't think I ever saw it in the cinema. See also: The Lost World: Jurassic Park, Wild Wild West et al. The ones I got really excited for and then did see were the Phantom Menace and LXG.
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Jul 14, 2017 20:06
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purple death ray posted:Uma and Arnold are the best parts of the whole movie, you kidding? As far as being so terrible they're entertaining, yeah, I agree. I think we're largely on the same page here. The chuckle I got was Schumacher basically saying "yeah, the movie was poo poo for sure and I admit to it, but lost in all that was Uma Thurman's really great, underrated performance". She was as howlingly bad as everyone else in it, which are only things making that turd worth watching. It sounded like Joel S was actually trying to say that Uma nailed it as Poison Ivy amidst a sea of really bad performances and was some sort of stand out when everyone in it laughably sucked.
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There's a Cracked article today about weird backstage stories and there's a quote from Chris O'Donnell that he never actually worked with Arnold on B&R because for any scene that wasn't a close up it was a double.
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There's a famous story Kevin Smith tells about it where Joel Schumaker was hyping everyone up on the first day of shooting and shouted out "Remember everybody! This is a cartoon! IT'S A CARTOON!" It's told like a horror story, but u wish more movies would every once in a while say ok, let's be a cartoon.
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Jul 14, 2017 20:34
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Smith's superman story about meeting the producer (at the time) is always great.
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Jul 14, 2017 20:39
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There's been no official word on Uncle Ben dying in the battle of New York. That's just speculation.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:There's a famous story Kevin Smith tells about it where Joel Schumaker was hyping everyone up on the first day of shooting and shouted out "Remember everybody! This is a cartoon! IT'S A CARTOON!" That sounds fantastic and says more bad things about Kevin Smith than it does about Schumaker
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Jul 14, 2017 21:02
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I just cannot wrap my head around Ned being Ned. Like the only thing I can come up with is they wrote him and cast him as Ganke, then at the last minute someone decided to save him for a Miles movie and rather than rewriting anything they just picked a random Spider-Man related name and changed that.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:43
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Batman Forever had an amazing soundtrack, and I didn't mind Carrey as the Riddler but besides that it sucks. Jones trying to out-ham Carrey made Two-Face a weird villain, Kilmer acted disinterested and yea, the movie sucked. Outside of Kilmer I think every actor playing Bruce/Batman brought something interesting to the table. Keaton played Bruce as a somewhat socially awkward weirdo (which is quite a unique take when you think about the comics "playboy" portrayal of Bruce) and Clooney played Bruce with the right amount of smug charm. Bale played Bruce as the emotionally stunted grown-up, filled with angst and brooding.
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Affleck is your grumpy dad. I don't think they'll ever do Damian, but he'd be so good at scenes interacting with him
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Calaveron posted:That sounds fantastic and says more bad things about Kevin Smith than it does about Schumaker Go check out that documentary someone posted earlier. It talks about it ("it's a cartoon, etc.") and how Schumaker ran the franchise off the rails. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/w...pzSOHrJi6Q There's a Superman one too made by the same guys that I wound up watching.
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I'm really skeptical of any attempt to lay all of B&R at Schumacher's feet, when so much of it smacks of executive meddling. Documentaries also make it pretty drat easy to push a particular point they want it to, so you have to be careful with these kinds of things.
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Jul 14, 2017 23:33
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Death of Superman Lives is really good and actually paints the movie in a way better light than Smith ever did. It shows production art and models and poo poo that woukd have been legitimatly cool to see.
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twistedmentat posted:Death of Superman Lives is really good and actually paints the movie in a way better light than Smith ever did. It shows production art and models and poo poo that woukd have been legitimatly cool to see. It would be better if they'd made a version that completely cuts out the goober that made the film and where it cuts to him for a reaction shot for some reason every time a person of note is speaking.
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Jul 15, 2017 00:12
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At D23, Disney has a Thanos statue on display with 4 covered figures behind it they'll be revealing tomorrow. Probably our first look at the worst kept secret from that movie.
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Sounds like they're introducing the Black Order. I wasn't aware there was much speculation, news, or leaks about them.
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There's been photos of a stunt guy in a motion suit with EB MAW written on it, and another stunt person very clearly carrying Corvus Glaive's weapon. I don't know who gets cut though. Black Dwarf is the most boring. Edit: Also one actor has described his part as Thanos' right hand man, and that he's been working closely with 3 other actors. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jul 15, 2017 |
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Jul 15, 2017 00:42
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well of course they'd use Ebony Maw. How can you NOT use a guy named Ebony Maw?
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Aphrodite posted:At D23, Disney has a Thanos statue on display with 4 covered figures behind it they'll be revealing tomorrow. That Thanos statue looks pretty nice. I would prefer him to look like he did in the post-credit scene at the end of Avengers 2. All armored up and poo poo.
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Jul 15, 2017 00:44
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I mean he probably doesn't dress that way all the time probably rather uncomfortable tbh
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Jul 15, 2017 00:48
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Oh man. It's so Kirby. It's so beautiful.
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Aphrodite posted:There's been photos of a stunt guy in a motion suit with EB MAW written on it, and another stunt person very clearly carrying Corvus Glaive's weapon. That, and his name is bad. I forget the name of the thing with the arms, but isn't there a whole race of them? Maybe B Dwarf is in, and what's his face is cannon fodder.
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Jul 15, 2017 00:50
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I feel like you don't pass up Supergiant. Ninja psychic vampire seems like a lock. Proxima has a cool look. Black Dwarf is basically Abomination.
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Jul 15, 2017 00:56
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Go go Thanos Rangerrrrrrrrrrrrs
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https://twitter.com/EvangelineLilly/status/885061059547197441
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Jul 15, 2017 01:02
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Jack Kirby has kids and kin who are being showered in money and recognition right
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Calaveron posted:Jack Kirby has kids and kin who are being showered in money and recognition right I think so. Apparently they honored Jack Kirby by inducting him into Disney's Legends (along with Stan Lee), and his son is there to accept.
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I like it. Close enough for the association, but different enough to be unique to The Wasp. Isn't Ant-Man also getting a new suit in the sequel?
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Calaveron posted:Jack Kirby has kids and kin who are being showered in money and recognition right Lol nope
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