Trump Thread II: The man make a tweet

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Dogwood Fleet: Sep 14, 2013

Rigel posted:

The story is slightly less stupid, but still stupid, in context.

The school knew $2 bills exist (which the author and headline-writer wanted to imply they didn't), but their counterfeit pen didn't work on the bill. Apparently they don't work for really old bills, and this one was printed in the 50's. They traced the bill all the way back to the bank which it came from, and they were able to inform them that counterfeit pens only work for bills printed in the last couple decades or so.

People use counterfeit pens on bills under $20? Why.

Dogwood Fleet fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jul 14, 2017

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Hieronymous Alloy: Jan 30, 2009; Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!; Morbid Hound

skylined! posted:

so does anyone want to take their best guess at why all of these Russians are releasing details of this meeting, other than maximum chaos from Putin

Probably chaos, but outside chance Trump spaced out completely during their chat and now Putin has realized he might as well burn Trump as an asset

# ? Jul 14, 2017 22:56

Kylra: Dec 1, 2006; Not a cute boy, just a boring girl.

Google Butt posted:

No, but ban the people who quote them in their entirety.

This. It's been a kind of nice digest to keep up with things.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 22:56

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Rigel posted:

The story is slightly less stupid, but still stupid, in context.

The school knew $2 bills exist (which the author and headline-writer wanted to imply they didn't), but their counterfeit pen didn't work on the bill. Apparently they don't work for really old bills, and this one was printed in the 50's. They traced the bill all the way back to the bank which it came from, and they were able to inform them that counterfeit pens only work for bills printed in the last couple decades or so.

You read the article, found out a school uses a counterfeiting pen to check a $2 bill and you think that makes the article less stupid? :psyduck:

That they check bills smaller than $20 (or at all, it's a loving middle school) is insanity. It's not less stupid in context because the context itself is idiotic as hell.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 22:57

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Dogwood Fleet posted:

People use counterfeit pens on bills under $20? Why.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School-to-prison_pipeline

also in a lot of places school budgets are so paper thin they have to shake down students for the legally cheapest possible lunches. in america the same food is often served in prisons and schools, from the same institutional foodservice providers

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Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Rigel posted:

and that is why I said this:

Here's the thing, the fact they used an anti counterfeiting tool without understanding how it works and the police didn't even catch on is actually damning from an anti counterfeiting controls perspective. It is even worse in context.

Dogwood Fleet posted:

People use counterfeit pens on bills under $20? Why.

School to prison pipeline.

boner confessor posted:

i'd be impressed as hell if a tween girl could produce a convincing facsimile of a half century old note

Or if a kid was counterfeiting, I have a feeling they would do it more than once and probably not with $2 bills. But kids are dumb so maybe kids do counterfeit old bills. Guess what, if they get lunch one day they're going to do it again. If $2 bills are so loving rare no one knows they exist then you'll probably catch them again the next time. Zero concern for the impact on the kid.

Like I understand how you'll get the cops called if you buy a whole sheet of $2 bills from the bank and tear them out one by one to pay. Good old Woz :v:

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Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Reik posted:

Houston.

Honestly? We should probably just be thankful that the police didn't show up and shoot her.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 22:58

Rigel: Nov 11, 2016

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Probably chaos, but outside chance Trump spaced out completely during their chat and now Putin has realized he might as well burn Trump as an asset

Hadn't considered that. The fact that this is happening right after G20 might not be a coincidence. Even though they weren't alone, Putin may have been trying to give Trump carefully-worded and coded messages during their conversation that should have meant something to Trump. Since Trump is an imbecile, he may have missed it and Putin realized Trump is either choosing to ignore him or he's too stupid to be useful.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 22:58

Rigel: Nov 11, 2016

Evil Fluffy posted:

You read the article, found out a school uses a counterfeiting pen to check a $2 bill and you think that makes the article less stupid?

Yes. This really isn't a complicated point, the article and headline was written in a way to make someone chuckle and go "lol, dumb shits didn't even know $2 bills are real, wow"

It is unambiguously, and objectively less stupid in context. More malicious, perhaps more racist, but less stupid.

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Rigel: Nov 11, 2016

Trabisnikof posted:

Here's the thing, the fact they used an anti counterfeiting tool without understanding how it works and the police didn't even catch on is actually damning from an anti counterfeiting controls perspective. It is even worse in context.

Its not a counterfeit detecting tool, its just a loving pen. Mark on it and if its yellow its real, black then its fake. I did not know they didn't work on old bills before now, and I don't think the vast majority of this thread knew either, because why the hell should we know? Bills don't usually survive 7 years, much less 50+

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:02

Party Plane Jones: Jul 1, 2007; by Reene; Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/nhbaptiste/status/885953685192404993

West Virginia should have been folded back into Virginia; god drat.

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Oxxidation: Jul 22, 2007

I just did a quick Google and learned that there is approximately $1.5 billion in $2 bills still currently in circulation. That's magical.

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PhazonLink: Jul 17, 2010

Party Plane Jones posted:

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Does Jones really vape baboon piss.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:03

Despera: Jun 6, 2011

Party Plane Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/nhbaptiste/status/885953685192404993

West Virginia should have been folded back into Virginia; god drat.

No way we take them back

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:03

Ague Proof: Jun 5, 2014; they told me
I was everything

CNN has a photo of the meeting inside Trump Tower. Natalia Veselnitskaya is the woman left of Donald Trump Jr (centre):

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dwarf74: Sep 2, 2012; Buglord

Evil Fluffy posted:

You read the article, found out a school uses a counterfeiting pen to check a $2 bill and you think that makes the article less stupid?

That they check bills smaller than $20 (or at all, it's a loving middle school) is insanity. It's not less stupid in context because the context itself is idiotic as hell.

So the school here extends the students like a $5 line of credit just in case they forget lunch or a drink or something.

My older son got a milk one day. 50 cents.

Until we logged into their system and paid that fifty loving cents we got calls and emails every. loving. day. For fifty cents.

Worse than a collection agency.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:04

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

Party Plane Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/nhbaptiste/status/885953685192404993

West Virginia should have been folded back into Virginia; god drat.

gently caress this person.

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Throwing Turtles: May 3, 2015

Rigel posted:

The story is slightly less stupid, but still stupid, in context.

The school knew $2 bills exist (which the author and headline-writer wanted to imply they didn't), but their counterfeit pen didn't work on the bill. Apparently they don't work for really old bills, and this one was printed in the 50's. They traced the bill all the way back to the bank which it came from, and they were able to inform them that counterfeit pens only work for bills printed in the last couple decades or so.

There's an extra stupid part at the end.

quote:

As a side note, reported that between the 2013-2014 school year there were forty Houston students investigated for using allegedly counterfeit money at lunch and that those investigated are disproportionately black and Hispanic.

Many of those students qualify for free school lunch and some of them could spend two to ten years behind bars.

Seriously who the hell takes the time to track down the origin of a 2$ bill before you even do the lab work to see if it's real.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:04

farraday: Jan 10, 2007; Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Party Plane Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/nhbaptiste/status/885953685192404993

West Virginia should have been folded back into Virginia; god drat.

We don't want East Ohio back.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:05

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Rigel posted:

Its not a counterfeit detecting tool, its just a loving pen. Swipe it and if its yellow its real, black then its fake. I did not know they didn't work on old bills before now, and I don't think the vast majority of this thread knew either, because why the hell should we know? Bills don't usually survive 7 years, much less 50+

That's literally what an anti counterfeiting tool is. It is an anti counterfeiting pen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfeit_banknote_detection_pen

If someone is using that to decide if a police investigation is needed is a failure of the anti counterfeiting program if they don't know the limitations of the tool.

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Yngwie Mangosteen: Aug 23, 2007

Google Butt posted:

No, but ban the people who quote them in their entirety.

This is a good policy. The twitter dumps themselves are great, but quoting them should be bannable.

And yeah, Fort Bend county has a city called Sugarland in it, where a bunch of sugar plantations are/used to be.

In fact, here's a neat article about the area and its history. - http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/sugarland/news/article/Ghosts-of-Sugar-Land-9646297.php

Let's see if we can figure out why they're using a counterfeit pen on a $2 bill.

Here's an excerpt from the article!

quote:

After emancipation, a loophole in the 13th Amendment retained legal slavery for those who�d been duly convicted of a crime. In 1867, Texas began leasing out its convicts to labor for private companies, and former plantations across the state were transformed into prison farms. The vast majority of the men and women who toiled on them were African-Americans, either the children of slaves or former slaves themselves, who came from states like Arkansas and Louisiana as well as from across Texas. With the Postbellum Texas economy in shambles and the basis of its political economy now illegal, Archaeologist/Historical Anthropologist Dr. Fred McGhee says this was no coincidence.

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PookBear: Nov 1, 2008

kids at my school were printing out money on I guess construction paper or something and paying for lunches with it to pocket their actual lunch money

edit for clarity: I don't remember how they actually thickened it to make it not feel like it come straight off the school printer

PookBear fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Jul 14, 2017

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Rigel: Nov 11, 2016

Reverand maynard posted:

kids at my school were printing out money on I guess construction paper or something and paying for lunches with it to pocket their actual lunch money

If anyone successfully passed a bill printed on construction paper, that cashier should be fired or at least reassigned to something easier than taking money and counting out change.

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PhazonLink: Jul 17, 2010

Reminder Texas also hates clocks.

Which is weird because how else would they know what time it is?

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Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Here's a bit of levity this thread reminded me of, Woz is the best: http://archive.woz.org/letters/general/78.html

quote:

Woz:
About 3 years ago I took my daughter, Sara, to Las Vegas for a gymnastics regional that she was in. During the lengthy warmups my wife and I walked down to the Hard Rock Casino and played slot machines. While generously feeding these machines I tipped the waitress a couple of $2 bills. Waitresses in casinos and other places often exclaim at how much they like getting these and how their kids love them. I have tons of $2 bill stories that will make a whole chapter in my book someday. My $2 bills are real and legit but unusual.

A short while later a casino security manager sat down next to me. He was very quiet and showed no emotion about anything. He was 30-ish and acted like a dedicated security man who knew everything about every type of cash situation ever. This man asked me where I'd gotten the bills and I started a little BS about buying them from a guy that hawked basketball tickets. I sometimes say this to peak the interest in people that wonder if these bills are real or not. I said that I thought the bills were good and acted like I didn't know what was going on, just enough to seem evasive. This man told me that they had tested the bills with their testing pen and that the bills were good.

Then he calmly said that they don't make them like this. I sat for a long time silent and he repeated his statement. I said "you mean, on sheets?" These two $2 bills were attached to each other and perforated. You can purchase $1, $2, and now $5 bills from the Bureau of Printing and Engraving on sheets. The sheets come in sizes of 4, 16, and 32 bills each. I buy such sheets of $2 bills. I carry large sheets, folded in my pocket, and sometimes pull out scissors and cut a few off to pay for something in a store. It's just for comedy, as the $2 bills cost nearly $3 each when purchased on sheets. They cost even more at coin stores.

I take the sheets of 4 bills and have a printer, located through friends, gum them into pads, like stationery pads. The printer then perforates them between the bills, so that I can tear a bill or two away. The bills that I'd tipped the waitress came from such a pad.

Well, the casino security guy kept rubbing the perforation between the two bills but he still showed no emotion at all. He was strictly professional. When he said that they don't make bills like this I asked "They don't?" as though I thought it was quite normal to have sheets. My answer was also so emotionless as to confuse him about me, and to make me seem even more evasive. This, again, I do for a comedic effect. The gentleman then said "they don't make them with perforations." I again asked "they don't"", acting a little like maybe I got ripped off by the person that sold them to me. The security guy kept rubbing the perforation slowly.
...
We went into a room and the door was closed. This young Secret Service agent opened a chrome brief case on the table and pulled out a card. He said that he was going to read my my Miranda rights. Instantly I thought that I could just say "the bills are good and you know it and I'm leaving this bullshit" but then you always have the fear that they'll hold you for being uncooperative. It's hard to separate rights from reality. So I sat still and was read my Miranda rights. He pulled out forms and I thought that it was now going to take 20 minutes.

He asked my for some picture ID. I have some fake photo ID's that a friend made for me years before, when we could make realistic photo ID's from our computers. Almost nobody else could do this because printers weren't good enough. But I had an expensive early generation dye sublimation printer and made some fake ID's for fun. I had one favorite fake ID that I'd used for almost every airplane flight, domestic and international, that I'd taken for many years. It says "Laser Safety Officer" and has a photo of me with an eyepatch. It also says "Department of Defiance" in an arc, in a font that looks like "Department of Defense" to the casual glance.

As I opened my wallet, I considered whether I should risk using this fake ID on the Secret Service. It probably amounted to a real crime. I had my driver's license as well. But you only live once and only a few of us even get a chance like this once in our lives. So I handed him the fake ID. He noted and returned it. The Secret Service took an ID that said "Laser Safety Officer" with a photo of myself wearing an eyepatch.

You can begin to see why many people don't believe this story when I tell it.
...

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Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Reverand maynard posted:

kids at my school were printing out money on I guess construction paper or something and paying for lunches with it to pocket their actual lunch money

...and that worked?

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:10

LorneReams: Jun 27, 2003; I'm bizarre

I like how all authority figures are basically the same from police to the school administrators.

"We made a mistake that completely inconvenienced you, potentially could have caused you life altering damage, but it's good now, no apology, go back to class before we find something else to get you on."

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:10

Billy the Mountain: Feb 3, 2005; I used to be TheRealLuquado

Ague Proof posted:

CNN has a photo of the meeting inside Trump Tower. Natalia Veselnitskaya is the woman left of Donald Trump Jr (centre):

The Russian spy took a loving SELFIE with him

I can't even...

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:12

PookBear: Nov 1, 2008

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

...and that worked?

it was like 15 years ago and I don't know the exact details but yeah I remember it working for like a week because he got a few other kids to use his printed money because they all got expelled and went to the school for troublemakers for a year or two.

This took place in Texas as well so I'm just saying its not unheard of for kids to counterfeit money

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:13

ReidRansom: Oct 25, 2004

The newsing hour has passed. I doubt we'll be getting that 8th name tonight. Time to drink instead.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:18

Party Plane Jones: Jul 1, 2007; by Reene; Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/885983035337953280
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/885986500084674560

:stare:

Probably don't want to hear the context in which this sentence was uttered.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:20

Blitz of 404 Error: Sep 19, 2007; Joe Biden is a top 15 president

Party Plane Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/885983035337953280
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/885986500084674560

Probably don't want to hear the context in which this sentence was uttered.

Scheduling a meeting?

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:21

OddObserver: Apr 3, 2009

I am just gonna guess it was Viktor Medvedchuk, not because I think it likely but because it would produce some really low quality hews coverage.

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ReidRansom: Oct 25, 2004

Oh man he's talking about Melania isn't he

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:23

Ague Proof: Jun 5, 2014; they told me
I was everything

Billy the Mountain posted:

The Russian spy took a loving SELFIE with him

I can't even...

Sorry, I was making a joke. I don't want to mislead people.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:24

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

https://twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/885980552125394945

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:29

Skex: Feb 22, 2012; The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

Oxxidation posted:

oh my god why would you write all these words in response to the mountain-man gimmick

Because while the Mountain thing is a gimmick he's sincere with his silly demographic argument. That somehow Western mountain folks aren't mostly Republican assholes when the reality is these shitheels are in every state.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:34

Edible Hat: Jul 23, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Billy the Mountain posted:

The Russian spy took a loving SELFIE with him

I can't even...

That's a joke.

# ? Jul 14, 2017 23:36

Taima: Dec 31, 2006; tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

Is it just me or is Trump's twitter getting substantially fewer Likes recently? Has he lost some Russian bot support?

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Taima: Dec 31, 2006; tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

Skex posted:

Because while the Mountain thing is a gimmick he's sincere with his silly demographic argument. That somehow Western mountain folks aren't mostly Republican assholes when the reality is these shitheels are in every state.

I liked your post man. That was a good post.

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