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 I, Dansar Rabb Al'Ustul, am proposing the MANUFACTURING WAT IT DO Act: Build manufactories and workshops in every province in the Sevilla trade node you can. Tear down buildings if you need to. Manufacturies are so good that even a 1 production province(everything in Iberia has at least 2) with a 2 trade value trade good(lowest base possible) should end up making us a profit within 125 years. Dance Officer fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Jul 14, 2017 |
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Frionnel posted:
 I'll concur with this. If we manage to push the French out of Iberia and put a stop to the periodic revolts, then we can focus all our energy on the New World, beating up Morocco, or whatever else we want. I assume if we fortify the Pyrenees later on, it will be harder for France to invade.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:47
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Since advocates for Humanism are beginning to spring up, here's what the government tab currently looks like:
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Jul 14, 2017 21:52
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Soup du Jour posted:
Supported. The best offense is a good defense.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:54
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Yes, fortifying the Pyrenees would go a long way into helping us defend against France. But first we need to not be attacked from inside, which is why we need humanism! Taifas, support my act for a stronger Andalus!
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Jul 14, 2017 21:58
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Frionnel posted:
I, Lutfi al-Uthman of the New Taifas, support this suggestion! I'd also like it if we were to add the Leonese and Catalans to our list of protected Dhimmi, but really I'll be supporting Humanism either way.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:59
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the forts are part of the war package so you can just vote for Humanism it's unlikely that we'd have the provinces to put them in before the end of next session anyway
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Policies at the moment:Rodyle posted:gently caress Em, They're French: Rodyle, Technowolf. Soup du Jour posted:I propose the Great Wall of the Pyrenees Act. Adopt Defensive Ideas, and once France holds no land in Iberia, construct the most advanced forts we can on our new and permanent borders with them. Soup du Jour, Mountaineer. Lord Cyrahzax posted:Drawn Sword Act! This act requires the adoption of Offensive Ideas, continuing to expand and advance the army, and once the war with France is won, the seizure of Tangiers and as much of Morocco's Caribbean empire as we can take. Lord Cyrahzax. Frionnel posted:Proposing the Bill of Rights Act: Frionnel, The Bold Kobold, Wyvernil, Luhood.  Ralepozozaxe posted:I, Ralepozozaxe, The Dalai Ullama, propose the More of the Same, With a Side of gently caress You France Act. Keep converting provinces, starting with recently conquered provinces first, with an emphasis on ones we take from France. Now is the time to show those perfidious French what the real religion of Iberia is. Ralepozozaxe. AJ_Impy posted:Revolting Dhimmi Get Converted Act: Any province that looks to false beliefs for protection rather than Allah or the Sultan, any province taken from a foreign power now or historically, in particular those in the north of Al-Andalus or the south of France, which do not cling to the true faith, convert them. No excuses or vacillation. la ilaha illa'llah Muhammadun rasul Allah or bust. AJ_Impy. Erwin the German posted:I propose the Deus- er, Allah Vult Act. Make Religious our fourth national idea! (If that can't be a proposal, then Revolting Dhimmi Get Converted Act) Erwin the German. Crazycryodude posted:Proposing the Made in al-Andalus Act: Crazycryodude. Dance Officer posted:I, Dansar Rabb Al'Ustul, am proposing the MANUFACTURING WAT IT DO Act: Build manufactories and workshops in every province in the Sevilla trade node you can. Tear down buildings if you need to. Dance Officer.  none.
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Jul 14, 2017 22:05
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Dance Officer do you just wanna merge our proposals? I'll settle for one guaranteed manufactory in a 20+ province, and let the rest fall where they may.
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Jul 14, 2017 22:12
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Frionnel posted:
I support this proposal!
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Jul 14, 2017 22:39
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Rodyle posted:
Supporting this
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Jul 14, 2017 22:42
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Crazycryodude posted:Dance Officer do you just wanna merge our proposals? I'll settle for one guaranteed manufactory in a 20+ province, and let the rest fall where they may. Sure.
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Jul 14, 2017 22:50
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Rodyle posted:the forts are part of the war package so you can just vote for Humanism I don't want us to take Humanism, though.
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Jul 14, 2017 22:52
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Erwin the German posted:Indeed! Why not both? Appending this to the RDGCA.
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Jul 14, 2017 22:56
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Crazycryodude posted:
Supporting
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Jul 14, 2017 22:57
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AJ_Impy posted:Why not both? Appending this to the RDGCA. And I append mine to Aj_impy's, seeing as it's pretty dang similar. Ulema Unity!
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Jul 14, 2017 22:58
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So, what happens if multiple factions pass bills to choose national ideas?
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Jul 14, 2017 23:05
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Crazycryodude posted:
Supporting this.
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Jul 14, 2017 23:06
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Rodyle posted:
Since it looks like Humanism is doing pretty well, I'm going to throw in with this. gently caress the French.
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Jul 14, 2017 23:06
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Frionnel posted:So, what happens if multiple factions pass bills to choose national ideas? Depends. Ordinarily, the largest faction would force their policy through sheer numbers, with the sultan siding with them to try and keep the Majlis on his good side. Our current sultan is very interventionist and ambitious, however, so he'll likely take advantage of any division within the Majlis. One thing not really used yet, but has been available since the beginning of the game, is that the sultan has a special veto he can use, so there's that. His personality will play a major part in coming updates, assuming nothing goes awry.
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Jul 14, 2017 23:12
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Frionnel posted:Nevermind i was wrong then! I support this act! All who dwell in the borders of our glorious Sultanate should think of themselves first and foremost as Andalusians!
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Jul 14, 2017 23:28
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Crazycryodude posted:
supporting this.
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Jul 14, 2017 23:52
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I'm sure our noble Sultan, who has already shown kindness to the dhimmi, will see the value of an Al-Andalus united as one in his support, and not divided and weak, if he is to pursue his righteous ambitions.
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Jul 14, 2017 23:55
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Crazycryodude posted:
I support this proposal or any variation it turns into.
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Jul 15, 2017 00:21
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Getting behind the Ulama unity bill.
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Jul 15, 2017 00:25
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Rodyle posted:
Supporting this. I'm kinda meh on taking territory in this war, we should probably spend as much warscore as we can loving them as badly as we can before we bother taking territory. Like they've got a big chunk of reformist territory in the west - if we can split them into factions divided by religion they'll spend all their time fighting each other. Or if we can split off their colonies so they no longer get income with which to rebuild their army. That kind of thing will go much father towards beating them in the next war than a couple of provinces, even they Pyrenees.
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Jul 15, 2017 00:25
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Yeah imo the priority should be: 1) Borders at the Pyrenees 2) Liberate colonies (it's probably cheaper to liberate them now and conquer in a decade, if it's cheaper to just take them now do that instead but I highly doubt it is) 3) Splitting off states like Brittany and their Low Countries conquests/giving land to Provence/similar 4) Actually taking French land for ourselves We've got more than enough bullshit to deal with on our side of the mountains, the last thing we want is more of the same except 3 times as rebellious.
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Crazycryodude posted:Yeah imo the priority should be: This is how I feel as well.
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Jul 15, 2017 00:30
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E: I support the Ulama unity bill with as many of the amendments as possible.
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Jul 15, 2017 00:41
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Rodyle posted:
Let's do this. 
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Jul 15, 2017 01:04
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Crazycryodude posted:Yeah imo the priority should be: The war proposal only talks about taking iberian french land, which conforms to your stated first priority, so i'm not sure what's your point. Yessod posted:Supporting this. The thing is, liberated nations are very fragile at first, which would mean they'd be defenseless if they can't secure big alliances. If France ever gets their poo poo together, they'll annex them and set us back to square one. Meanwhile taking territory actually directly makes us stronger in detriment of our enemy. Frionnel fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Jul 15, 2017 |
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Jul 15, 2017 01:04
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I coulda sworn it didn't originally, maybe I'm just blind. Really, I was just using the opportunity of someone saying something similar to chime in with agreement.
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Jul 15, 2017 01:08
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Frionnel posted:The war proposal only talks about taking iberian french land, which conforms to your stated first priority, so i'm not sure what's your point. Lets not forget that in the last war we had France end vassalage of Castile, only for them to revassalize them once their truce was up. Plus, we don't know if France is made up of revolter states like berry and Gascogne in this timeline, we do know Brittany and maybe some dudes up in the Dutch region. We would still be driving up their devastation whether they were independence rebels or not, so it will still gently caress France, which is what every faction has wants.
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Jul 15, 2017 01:45
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Supporting this. Let's make sure we get the revolt risk taken care of. Less revolts mean more manpower/less internal stuff to worry about.
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Jul 15, 2017 06:03
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Erwin the German posted:Indeed! I, Chatrapati of the Ulema, support this proposal. A strong religious foundation for the future will help not only our brothers in Iberia, but save the souls of the pagans in the far West who are increasingly becoming part of Al-Andalus. Chatrapati fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Jul 15, 2017 |
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Jul 15, 2017 12:57
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Erwin the German posted:Indeed! This gets my support
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Jul 15, 2017 14:44
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I would ask my fellow Ulama to throw their support behind the amended Revolting Dhimmi Get Converted Act, which has been modified to add the qualifier that we shall also make Religious our fourth national idea.
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Jul 15, 2017 15:14
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Erwin the German posted:I would ask my fellow Ulama to throw their support behind the amended Revolting Dhimmi Get Converted Act, which has been modified to add the qualifier that we shall also make Religious our fourth national idea. A vote for the D-er, AVA is a vote for the RDGCA.
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Jul 15, 2017 15:23
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AJ_Impy posted:A vote for the D-er, AVA is a vote for the RDGCA. My proposal has also been added to theirs, as have the votes for it. In a sense, the Deus-er, Allah ReVulting Dhimmi Get Converted, with a Side of gently caress France Act hold the onions.
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Are the loyalists allowed to make propositions? If we are, I propose: Good Christian Act: No conversion of Christian provinces that are unlikely to revolt.
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