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jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I am hoping against hope that the rumored favorites are all wrong and the next Doctor will be an openly gay woman of color, if only to revel in the wailing and gnashing of teeth that it will cause among these lovely loving fans.

So you want Bill Potts to be the Doctor? I'm okay with this.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Actual footage of the casting department at the BBC.

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)
This is someone not from Britain checking in on a point:

None of the actors who played The Doctor (or even a companion) were really A-List actors before they got the role, right?

Like, they were well regarded, had successful and critically acclaimed careers, but none of them were, like, a top 5 or top 10 actor in the popular eye. Like none of them were the equivalent of giving the role to Leonardo DiCaprio or Brad Pitt.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.
Twelve: "That young fellow certainly was charming. ... hmm."
*burst of energy*
One: "Ah, that's better :smug:"

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

glowing-fish posted:

This is someone not from Britain checking in on a point:

None of the actors who played The Doctor (or even a companion) were really A-List actors before they got the role, right?

Like, they were well regarded, had successful and critically acclaimed careers, but none of them were, like, a top 5 or top 10 actor in the popular eye. Like none of them were the equivalent of giving the role to Leonardo DiCaprio or Brad Pitt.

Pretty much. I think Eccleston and Capaldi have been the highest-profile actors thus far, and after that ... I guess Davison, due to All Creatures Great and Small? But no one's been an "everyone will recognize him on the street" level of a star.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
What would these troglodytes say if the new Doctor is Queen Elizabeth?

usenet celeb 1992
Jun 1, 2000

he thought quoting borges would make him popular

xtothez posted:

I'm not sure I want to live on this planet anymore


oh these PC snowflakes, forcing me toward murder-suicide over a loving television show, why must they be so oversensitive

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Timby posted:

Pretty much. I think Eccleston and Capaldi have been the highest-profile actors thus far, and after that ... I guess Davison, due to All Creatures Great and Small? But no one's been an "everyone will recognize him on the street" level of a star.

I gather that Bill Hartnell had a pretty extensive career before Doctor Who but I don't know if he was exactly a household name as "that guy who plays soldiers".

thexerox123
Aug 17, 2007

Timby posted:

I was thinking Justin McElroy.

*the Doctor regenerates*

"Hachi machi!"

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Oh, and Paul McGann in the parallel universe where he didn't hurt himself playing football and actually played Sharpe.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

thexerox123 posted:

*the Doctor regenerates*

"Hachi machi!"

What is happening, Griffin?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


I will always take any excuse I can to post this painting made to commemorate these letters :allears:



And for shameless shilling, this edit I made a while back for a games contest



Speaking of shameless shilling, Lick the Whisk! and I have just posted reviews for The Pilot over in his season 10 review thread!

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

I just heard from an Extremely Trustworthy Source that the only possible option for the next Doctor will be Brian Blessed.

thexerox123
Aug 17, 2007

Cojawfee posted:

What is happening, Griffin?

Turns out the monster in the premiere is... a glass shark.

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013

usenet celeb 1992 posted:

oh these PC snowflakes, forcing me toward murder-suicide over a loving television show, why must they be so oversensitive

The most disturbing part is that someone read that message and thought "this is the sensible" and liked it.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary

Carbon dioxide posted:

I just heard from an Extremely Trustworthy Source that the only possible option for the next Doctor will be Brian Blessed.

that tallies with the "get someone sexy for tumblr" rumour, so i'm on board

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

thexerox123 posted:

Turns out the monster in the premiere is... a glass shark.

Cyberman comin' for you, fat kid.

McDragon
Sep 11, 2007

CGI Snake for next Doctor.

He can fight the Clown Box

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

glowing-fish posted:

This is someone not from Britain checking in on a point:

None of the actors who played The Doctor (or even a companion) were really A-List actors before they got the role, right?

Like, they were well regarded, had successful and critically acclaimed careers, but none of them were, like, a top 5 or top 10 actor in the popular eye. Like none of them were the equivalent of giving the role to Leonardo DiCaprio or Brad Pitt.

I think Tom Baker and Matt Smith were the only ones who were really "unknowns" when they were cast.

It's the same for James Bond - the only actor cast as James Bond who was already a really big star was Roger Moore and he was mainly a TV actor (in fact he was the highest-paid TV actor in the world at the time).

Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Jul 16, 2017

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Wheat Loaf posted:


It's the same for James Bond - the only actor cast as James Bond who was already a really big star was Roger Moore and he was mainly a TV actor (in fact he was the highest-paid TV actor in the world at the time).

Daniel Craig was fairly big, no?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

The_Doctor posted:

Daniel Craig was fairly big, no?

Only really for Layer Cake. He wasn't an A-lister until Casino Royale. That's the point I probably should have made: no Bond actor has been an A-list movie actor when they were cast in the role.

ANYWAY.

I wouldn't mind if Kris Marshall is the new Doctor - I don't think he'd be bad in the role - I'm just confused that the Beeb are keen to have Tennant 2.0 and they pick a guy who always seems to looks kind of gormless.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Wheat Loaf posted:

I think Tom Baker and Matt Smith were the only ones who were really "unknowns" when they were cast.

It's the same for James Bond - the only actor cast as James Bond who was already a really big star was Roger Moore and he was mainly a TV actor (in fact he was the highest-paid TV actor in the world at the time).

If we're counting TV Star, then doesn't Pierce Brosnan qualify?

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

My trip down Cybermemory Lane is so far going pretty well, just about gotten through all the pre-revival stuff I had slated. (I still have part two of Human Resources to finish up.)

Some (probably entirely too spammy) thoughts brought to you by Oh God Why Am I Awake This Early:

The Tenth Planet: I haven't seen that much of William Hartnell's stuff, and it always takes me by surprise how much the Doctor can be kind of a side character as compared to later eras of the show. (Though I suspect that, in this case, Hartnell's health was more to blame than the style of the show, since I have a suspicion that him sleeping through the entire third episode may not have been the original intent of the script.) Here it's a bit more extreme than I've ever seen it, with the story almost entirely carried by the guest cast, though Ben gets a fair bit to do toward the end, and Polly gets to tearfully tell us that she's frightened. (There are more feminist triumphs in early Who than one might expect for the era, but this wasn't exactly one of them.) This was my first time seeing Ben and Polly and I can't say this really gave me much of a handle on their characters.

The Cybermen were dicks, and fantastically so. They came across as more oblivious than actively malevolent even when they were very transparently trying to murder (or convert) everyone, which is how they should be. "Haven't you got a heart?!?" "No, we took that out ages ago. I've got this lovely accordion thing instead."

I also really enjoyed the crew of the South Pole base, particularly the general (even after he went completely unhinged), and particularly the way he had No Time For The Doctor's Nonsense. (A bit of a contrast from the way that later Doctors could wander onto a military base and be running the place within five minutes.) And the ten minutes or so that the Doctor was actually in the story and thinking rings around everyone were quite fun.

The Invasion: I already said some things about this, but I enjoyed it immensely. It was a story of great duos; the Doctor and Jamie, Vaughn and Packer, Zoe and Isobel in particular. By the time the Cybermen actually show up, though, they're a bit lame and I feel like they're too easily defeated (though I suppose that making them an even more credible threat would have required expanding this beyond eight episodes, which feels a bit excessive). Exceptions: the screaming berserk Cyberman that was the test subject for Vaughn's emotion ray.

The Blue Tooth: My first Companion Chronicle. I've always liked Liz Shaw and this did nothing to dissuade me from that. I thought it could have used a bit more denouement at the end, but otherwise I thoroughly enjoyed this, and the "twist" that the "Cybermen" were just some humans who'd been accidentally converted and had no real idea what they were doing beyond WE MUST SURVIVE was kind of interesting.

Revenge Of The Cybermen: So that's where HARRY SULLIVAN IS AN IMBECILE came from. (Though "Harry, did you make the rocks fall?" was possibly even funnier.) God, I love Tom Baker. (Poor Harry though, it's not like he could have known that the Doctor's harness was rigged to explode if it were removed.) Sarah Jane was great as always.

You'd think someone would have told the Vogans at some point that the gold their planet was made out of was lethal to the Cybermen so they could have, you know, made weapons out of it. The Cybermen were in full "excellent" mode at this point, and and seemed shamefully indistinguishable from any other would-be galaxy-conquering aliens.

Spare Parts: Oh, what else is there even to say. The best Cybermen story by a considerable margin, though World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls gives it a run for its money. (Speaking of, I don't see any reason they'd be incompatible; the colony ship from World could easily have been populated from a different Mondasian city, since I don't gather they had much contact with each other there at the end.)

Attack Of The Cybermen: Lytton was the best thing about Resurrection of the Daleks and he's probably the best thing about this episode too. I hadn't realized Eric Saward was still the script editor at this point until the end credits; if I had, I'd probably not have been quite as surprised by everyone dying horrible pointless deaths at the end.

Peri's tentative attempts to find out if the Doctor was still a violent crazy person were both interesting and a little disturbing.

I'll have thoughts on The Harvest and Human Resources later, but I think I've worked through that whole "it's 3:30 so NATURALLY it's time to be awake" thing I had going on earlier so that's it for now zzzzzzzz

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

I think people are reacting pretty poorly to Kris Marshall. I mean, I haven't seen him in much, but we should at least give him a ch-

https://mobile.twitter.com/revkris/status/886378787822125057

Burn him to the ground.

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013
I'm reasonably sure that's not Kris Marshall the actor.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Yeah, you're right. No check mark. Sorry, it's too early for me to be posting.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

thrawn527 posted:

I think people are reacting pretty poorly to Kris Marshall. I mean, I haven't seen him in much, but we should at least give him a ch-

https://mobile.twitter.com/revkris/status/886378787822125057

Burn him to the ground.

Why would anyone today care about 40 year old movie for children?

Cruel Rose
May 27, 2010

saaave gotham~
come on~
DO IT, BATMAN
FUCKING BATMAN I FUCKING HATE YOU
https://twitter.com/pipmadeley/status/886542434066477056

Packerrr~ :smug:

Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

by Pragmatica
I'm finally listening to the third UNIT set and I'm not sure if "we will give a voice to Britain's Silent majority" is better or worse than the "Master race" line from End of Time

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


How many hours til the announcement? I'm traveling and can't figure out the time zones for the life of me

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013

CommonShore posted:

How many hours til the announcement? I'm traveling and can't figure out the time zones for the life of me

There's no precise timeframe because it's after Wimbledon, and, y'know, tennis matches tend to last a variable amount of time. But the match will start at 2pm UK time, IIRC.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

CommonShore posted:

How many hours til the announcement? I'm traveling and can't figure out the time zones for the life of me

Someone in the thread mentioned it should be around noon EST. But I don't understand Wimbledon or time zones, so I don't really know if that's right.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Fair Bear Maiden posted:

There's no precise timeframe because it's after Wimbledon, and, y'know, tennis matches tend to last a variable amount of time. But the match will start at 2pm UK time, IIRC.

So my phone should blow up in the middle of my Dungeons and Dragons game.

Being interrupted by a popular nerd thing while in the middle of another popular nerd thing. gently caress you high school, the geeks have won!

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Fair Bear Maiden posted:

There's no precise timeframe because it's after Wimbledon, and, y'know, tennis matches tend to last a variable amount of time. But the match will start at 2pm UK time, IIRC.

So the match starts in an hour or so?

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013

CommonShore posted:

So the match starts in an hour or so?

Correct!

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man



Thanks. I live in Canada and I'm in Malaysia right now and about to get on another plane and I can't even figure out what day it is. There's a chance that the announcement will happen before I go to bed!

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
The BBC schedule looks like:

13:00
Wimbledon
2017, Men's Final Build-Up
View Programme information
13:50
Wimbledon
2017, Men's Final
View Programme information
EVENING

18:30
BBC Weekend News
16/07/2017

So presumably some time prior to 18:30 (13.30 EST) unless they're announcing it during the news, which would be mental.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
Okay, I won't be awake when this is announced, so I'm gonna be learning from reading you lot when I wake up. Remember to make it exciting for me!

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Apr 11, 2002

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Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

thrawn527 posted:

If we're counting TV Star, then doesn't Pierce Brosnan qualify?

Yeah, especially considering the Remington Steel producers extended his contract because they didn't want to lose him to Bond.

Also Dalton might not have been a superstar but he was absolutely a known quantity when he was cast. Dude had been acting for nearly twenty years at that point and already turned the role down once.

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