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odiv posted:Maybe it's just my wallet talking, but it looks slightly better than a Horizon Canopy when you draw it and don't need the land. Every once and a while you fetch a shock land and have it etb tapped, so it seems like one in the main wouldn't be terrible. Horizon Canopy doesn't ETB tapped, so you pay 1 to cycle it vs paying 2 to cycle the GW cycleland. The key thing is Horizon Canopy cycles itself ANY FRIGGEN TIME which is insanely valuable, I think. Although I just sold my 2 Canopies and am going to replace them with the cycler if I ever run out a company deck again because drat I wanted $160 more than those cards.
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ShaneB posted:Horizon Canopy doesn't ETB tapped, so you pay 1 to cycle it vs paying 2 to cycle the GW cycleland.
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odiv posted:Maybe it's just my wallet talking, but it looks slightly better than a Horizon Canopy when you draw it and don't need the land. Every once and a while you fetch a shock land and have it etb tapped, so it seems like one in the main wouldn't be terrible. It's not even better if you don't need the land. Horizon Canopy uses up your land drop, but only costs 1 mana after that, to cycle. If you don't need land, you don't care that it used up your land drop. The cyclers are sooooo much worse if you draw them, and do need the land. Plus, Canopy fixes your mana. The new cycling lands are only going to be good if there is a deck that takes advantage of having lands in the graveyard, and is also grindy enough that it's okay paying 2 mana to do nothing all of the time. If the Death's Shadow deck gets banned out somehow, I could maybe see a Life From the Loam deck emerge in Modern, but even then, I'm not really convinced. I think that type of deck really needs 1 mana cyclers for it to have a chance. To be honest, I don't even think any ETBT cyclers would replace Horizon Canopy even if they did cycle for 1. Canopy is meant as a dual land foremost, that sometimes helps you mitigate flood, later. The kinds of decks that are running Canopy right now really don't want their lands to enter tapped.
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Yes, you're right.  It hurts my finances to admit it, but you're right.Luckily I can buy another canopy locally for $65 Canadian, which is a pretty big savings, I think. I wonder if there are any Hierarchs here since I only got one for my cube. Trying to put together some sort of Company deck.
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odiv posted:Speaking of cycling, have the new cycle lands made much of an appearance in modern? Modern Dredge will typically run a copy of Sheltered Thicket since you can keep getting it back with Loam and use it to trigger a dredge for (2). I think R/G Valakut decks are running one or two, too. Outside of that, not really.
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Listerine Hangover posted:Fraying sanity might be broken. I played my goofy turbo fog list against this mill deck on XMage and lost all 6 times.
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Wait, Fraying Sanity has turned that 30 dollar engulf mill deck someone here made awhile ago into A Real Deck?  
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Sickening posted:The core to this deck has mythics. It might not get as expensive as other decks, but cheap isn't where this deck will stay if its good fyi. You basically may only have this weekend to buy into it and that might not last all day. I can't be arsed to go to the one place in the city that does Standard so no I'm not building it. But it's the first Standard deck that's really excited me since $50 Red in THS-KTK. odiv posted:Speaking of cycling, have the new cycle lands made much of an appearance in modern? I want to run a couple in the Modern Aggro Loam deck that I picked up all the cards for and will probably never actually play.
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Archenteron posted:Wait, Fraying Sanity has turned that 30 dollar engulf mill deck someone here made awhile ago into A Real Deck? The paper price has gone from 60 to 80 dollars in the past 4 hours. Mill hasn't been this real in a long time.
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It is finally time for perpetual timepiece to shine!
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Listerine Hangover posted:Fraying sanity might be broken. No clue what the Essence Scatter/Negate numbers mean but this doesn't really seem to math out? EDIT: Like if it means 3 of each there's too many cards in the main deck. If it's 3 split between them, there's too few.
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I knew I was right to be happy to pull a release promo Fraying Sanity in a prerelease kit.
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Procrastinator posted:No clue what the Essence Scatter/Negate numbers mean but this doesn't really seem to math out? Obv it means 3 of each! Gotta play 61 to win the mill mirror!!
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Lone Goat posted:Obv it means 3 of each! Gotta play 61 to win the mill mirror!! Then you have 6 copies of each in your 75! No, no, this doesn't make any sense at all!
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I suppose it's a good thing most of my decks already run a singleton Commit/Memory. Although that's not really a great out, but is usable at least.
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Lone Goat posted:Obv it means 3 of each! Gotta play 61 to win the mill mirror!! Haha, in my sideboard games against that mill deck I just put my whole SB into my deck and took out the 12 fogs
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Elyv posted:If an honest to god mill deck is actually good, that'll be the first time in, god, I don't even know how long*, but I'll reserve judgment until after the PT. Sanity Grinding was actually good when a bunch of other decks pushed Faeries out, but once Faeries adapted and came back as top dog the deck was suddenly horrible.
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Hellsau posted:Sanity Grinding was actually good when a bunch of other decks pushed Faeries out, but once Faeries adapted and came back as top dog the deck was suddenly horrible. Yes, but Grinding is less recent than Drownyard
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AceClown posted:Oh twitch chat, never change... Earlier they were complaining that Magic has been taken over by SJWs. I can only imagine what was being said when they had a female on camera. On another note Ammit Eternal seems really good.
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Listerine Hangover posted:Fraying sanity might be broken. I love mill and threw this together. Can confirm it is great. So many rage quits. Thanks for posting it!
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Was this deck a SaffronOlive thing? Because I was playing against it on XMage the day HOU cards came out so I wondering the origin
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These gods in HOU make Glorybringer seem fun to play against. Horrible limited experience.
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mcmagic posted:These gods in HOU make Glorybringer seem fun to play against. Horrible limited experience. Nicol Bolas is far worse, and the HOU gods are already bad.
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BJPaskoff posted:Nicol Bolas is far worse, and the HOU gods are already bad. The Gods are worse. At least Bolas is a 7 drop that is not easy to cast.
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80s James Hetfield posted:Was this deck a SaffronOlive thing? Because I was playing against it on XMage the day HOU cards came out so I wondering the origin It's not the same list, but Strictly Better MtG uploaded a budget version some time ago..maybe that's when people saw the potential?
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BJPaskoff posted:Nicol Bolas is far worse, and the HOU gods are already bad. I had both Nicol Bolas and Scarab God in my sealed deck and played against Scorpion God. Both Gods seemed far better than Nicky.
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The gods are mythic. The only issue with Glorybringer was that it was rare.
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From my Timehop, 3 years ago https://twitter.com/owentweetenwald/status/489488624850051072
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:i'm the guy at 8-2 on day 2 of an open that doesn't know that his oketra's monument reduces creature cost maybe you should rtfc ok
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:i'm the guy at 8-2 on day 2 of an open that doesn't know that his oketra's monument reduces creature cost Amazing.
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justice: oketra's monument guy loses to his opponent skillfully putting ancient tombs into play
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quote:FNM has been and continues to be the foundation our weekly in-store play. It is one of our longest-running and most successful play programs in our 25 years, so we're not looking to mess with the formula too much... 
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Wait, fnm promos will now be tokens? WOTC are run by actual clowns.
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haha what the gently caress is that real? Hmm people don't like when we choose garbage cards as the FNM promo, what can we do about that? Ooh, I have an idea, let's side-step the issue entirely by giving them no cards at all! It's brilliant!
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Entropic posted:haha what the gently caress is that real? http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/store-play-evolves-2017-07-16
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